You can add your base now. It won't mix into the naptha. Don't worry about that.

And nothing green is good. lol

good to know

should i try to take the top of the naphtha off of or just add the base? also.. the tek says to defat 3 times (prior to basifying). is that necessary? and where does that fit since i'm sort of changing the gameplan relative to my original tek?

You don't need to take the naptha off the top. But I'm confused. If it says to defat before basifying then do that. Basify after defat. Its necessary when doing phalaris extraction.

maybe a better way to explain it...

I'm hearing 3 slightly different variations on the same thing.

1) the initial tek itself, the erowid one in the first link I posted. it says to defat, then basify. that tek was written around MHRB (some sort of mimosa root bark, i think), but said the same process would work for phalaris and says that the de-fatting isn't actually necessary with the rootbark, just sources that contain photosynthetic cells (ie grass and leaves, which does of course mean i have to do it).

2) in the version of the tek mentioned in #1 i was reading, some other user/'expert'/person wh o has done this offers commentary and technical corrections to the tek. One of which is that 'the author suggests this tek would work for phalaris arundicea, a grass. extracting dmt from phalaras is a chore in and of itself requiring a wholly separate tek.' so at least this one guy who thinks he knows what he's talking about thinks that the tek in #1 won't work for phalaris. I'm not sure if the link I posted has this commentary, but if you google 'dmt extraction' its the #1 hit.

3) the second link i posted is a phalaris specific tek that mostly mirrors what i did in #1 except the basify step is before defatting.

being 100% inexperienced, I'm unsure which "internet expert" opinion to believe. however, if i can just basify with the solvent in there anyway as you suggest, perhaps it makes little to no differece.

Hi erryone,
Did a 300g ACRB extraction...
1)Did 5x Acid boils until the water no longer changed color with vinegar then reduced
2)Basified with excess sodium carbonate (till no more dissolved)
3)Added 80g of white salt and dissolved
4)Did multiple pulls with d-limonene till it no longer changed color
5)Salted Limonene with vinegar until vinegar no longer changed color
6)Evaporated vinegar and was left with goo
7)Basified goo with excess sodium carbonate and added hot lighter fluid until a noticable portion of the goo was dissolved almost immediately with a little stirring
8.Separated lighter fluid and put it in a collection glass jar to be put in the freezer with the next non-polar pull
9)The naptha got very cloudy and resembled expired milk. I waited till the naptha was clear and sediment had collected at the bottom of the jar (48+ hours) and poured off the solvent and dried the inside of the jar with a fan.
10)Was left with a clear sticky layer at the bottom of the jar which was barely worth weighing, so I sprinkled some salvia leaf in the jar and scraped it around to get all the goodies. If I would have to guess it would have been around 150mg worth...

I Smoalked it and was blown apart and realised we are in a very complex geometric matrix- but is very disappointed with the yield! I tried another pull with hot lighter fluid on the basic soup with no success so I'm really worried! I know this is potent ACRB because I took 9g for ayahuasca and it was very profound.

Any halp would be very appreciated!
Thanks

Sadbuttrue, the purpose of a defat is to remove the plant oils without removing the alkaloids you're trying to obtain. When you defat it needs to be in an acidic state. If it were in a basic state then it wouldn't work because the freebased alkaloids would follow the oils. Which is the opposite of what you're trying to do.

OneEyedAscension, I don't think you reached a high enough ph the first time you added soda carb.

Yeah I add more base, lye if you have any, otherwise calcium hydroxide if you have any (so that it reacts with sodium carbonate and form lye), or at least more sodium carbonate.

Also why are you going through all the trouble of using limonene if afterwards you are using lighter fluid?

Lastly, always weigh, even if you`re infusing herbs, because goo amount is always misleading, it seems like there is just a little but it usually is more than we think.

I did add lye until it went black. Did another pull and nothing.
I only use lighter fluid for recrystalisation because its very expensive where I'm from.

Try a different tek and see what your results are. You may be getting a decent amount in goo and not realizing it as endless said, or something else may be happening. Were not sure. If you have all the materials anyway, try a different method and see if you yeild anything.

Do you still have your original d-limonene pulls and your original reduced vinegar? That's where your spice is going to be, not the vinegar you used to salt the d-limonene.

Zippo is expensive, yeah!
For next time, I'd suggest rather than backsalting, simply evaporate the D-Limonene, scrape the goo, and dissolve in hot Zippo (shotglass in a hot water bath). Mix until the Zippo is bubbling a bit.
Then let it sit until some of the fats drop out, and the solution begins to cloud, transfer the liquid to another jar and freeze precip that.
I`d also suggest using NaOh(lye)
I`ve had suuuuch missed results with confusa, that I gave up on it. Mimosa ftw.

Yeah I checked the d-limonene and a layer of white goo had settled at the bottom. This turned out to be a bit more spice (but not very much). I'm trying again with the original vinegar at the moment.

Ohai, this is my first post to this forum, so I hope I won't break any rules. Also, english isn't my native language, so there may be some grammar errors.

Well, I wanna try DMT for the first time in my life, I only have some experience with smoking weed. I'm not an alcohol drinker nor do I take any other drugs. I've seen this tek and I wanna try using it. Will it do? Thank you

EDIT: Also, can I use ACRB instead of MHRB when following Orion's tek?

Use orions tek. It'll be better for you. And do more than one vinegar boil, do 3 or 4.

I tried to do a tek which called for boiling bark in water with sodium carbonate, and adding a half cup of vegetable oil per 50g of root bark. working with acacia confucia. it said to heat for extended period, then take vegetable oil and put in a water/vinegar mixture and repeat multiple times with fresh vinegar water mixture each time. well, i attempted this and the oil layer was too hard to separate. i ended up trying to pull with naptha out of the basified water and ended up wasting what i attempted to use, so i just evaporated everything and ended up with a very black chunky powder. anyway to salvage anything from the black powdery mess? on a better note i found the tek using sodium carbonate and IPA, and it worked rather well, i just haven't figured out dosage yet. to purify this would i want to use more IPA to get out the excess SC or could i use some naptha?
I know what resulted of this method is active, but i have not tried to achieve a break through yet. I'm not sure how much to use, or if i should clean it first.

If its crystals then its clean enough. If its goo then I would suggest letting it sit in hot naptha for 5 mins then pouring off the naptha and letting it freeze precipitate. That will be pretty clean and smokable.

Thanks for reply, I've ordered 50g of MHRB powder. Also what did you mean by doing 3 or 4 vinegar boils? Sorry for my ignorance, I'm pretty new to chemistry and this stuff.

The tek suggests mixing water and and vinegar and letting it simmer then removing it and basifying it. Instead of doing the vinegar boiling step once, do it three times before basifying.

Aha. And I guess that applies only to ACRB? Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it.

That applies to everything. You're first acid boil isn't going to absorb all of your alkaloids, its recommended to do 3 to ensure that you've grabbed it all.

Ah, alright, got it now. I'll just boil it for hour or so, then let it sit for while and then just repeat it 3 times. This should do I guess. Thanks for your time, I greatly appreciate it.