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woah23
#1 Posted : 11/28/2013 2:58:48 AM
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SWIM has one big problem right now, it's like SWIM doesn't have private thoughts. The following is an extensive report if you are up for reading it, but the short story is that SWIM knows that their thoughts are being heard by everyone near his presence and doesn't know how to stop them. SWIM has tried meditation but when SWIM tries to read a book or read an assignment in class, SWIM hears other people telling him to shut up.

The subject at hand has taken a few drugs, but more specifically ayahuasca. In that experience SWIM eventually broke through to the other side and at one point realized that we are all one being in a way; we are always connected to each other and god.

The problem didn't start then. It started a year later when SWIM went through a bad experience which resulted in several days spent thinking, barely eating, sleeping and staying confined in a house. SWIM was smoking pot at the time as it would help calming them down and sleep occasionally.

After a few days/weeks (not sure how long) SWIM had smoked some pot and after coming back down, they were unable to stop thinking and kept wishing to leave this place, as in the physical reality. At one point it felt like SWIM had a heart attack and then SWIM was lost in space. They still were here on Earth and was able to move around, but their mind was in space; SWIM was very high at that point.

After that night SWIM had frequent panic attacks and night terrors but the worst of it was that SWIM never had private thoughts again. Everyone would hear him and people would constantly comment that SWIM would be screaming their thoughts when really SWIM would only want to think to themselves.

SWIM has had this issue for over a year now and it is getting progressively worse as SWIM is basically avoiding as much social contact as possible, but now its getting to the point of wanting to go somewhere in the desert just so that there would be no one for miles around.

SWIM doesn't know what to do, SWIM is positive thoughts can be communicated telepathically because SWIM has found out that we are all one being if you go far enough in space; therefore we are able to communicate with anyone at will. The problem is also that SWIM has spent a lot of time alone growing up, so SWIM would always talk to themselves and imagine their friends and family were around when SWIM would talk to themselves. Now the habit became strong and even when SWIM thinks they are just thinking to themselves, they hear someone else say shut up or comment on SWIM's thoughts.


Has anyone experienced this? It is getting too intense for SWIM when all they want are some private thoughts so that they may actually do something with their life and not spend their life in a van in the middle of nowhere. SWIM is asking this community over other communities because this community has experience in DMT which is the drug that may have caused the problems for SWIM.

SWIM has also thought that a second trip with ayahuasca (no other space trips were taken since that one) would help as the first trip SWIM was alone and didn't know they would need a chacapa to disperse the evil energy that comes out of a person under ayahuasca.
 

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#2 Posted : 11/28/2013 2:38:02 PM

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Everyone would hear him and people would constantly comment that SWIM would be screaming their thoughts when really SWIM would only want to think to themselves.


do people comment telepathically or through their voice ?
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#3 Posted : 11/28/2013 3:05:30 PM

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Dear woah,

it sounds like your not doing wel, regardles of al other advise.
Do not take any drug or Aya and seek professional help.

Take care
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#4 Posted : 11/28/2013 3:51:06 PM

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I agree, this does not sound good. Please seek medical advise ASAP. Be well my friend.
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woah23
#5 Posted : 11/29/2013 4:52:01 AM
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Jin wrote:
woah23 wrote:
Everyone would hear him and people would constantly comment that SWIM would be screaming their thoughts when really SWIM would only want to think to themselves.


do people comment telepathically or through their voice ?


I hear their voice inside my head, and it's very similar to what they sound like if they actually talk.

As for the other two posts, I have considered that, however the problem would be that they give me some pill or make me talk about stuff they have no clue about... I would much rather talk to a monk or a shaman rather than any western psychiatrist. I personally detest pills because they only mask the true problem rather than fixing it. I do believe there is an explanation for this and I highly doubt any western "psychiatrist" is going to understand psychedelics... they will just label me crazy and hand me a bottle of pills; which is why I turn to this community.


Basically I am trying to conquer this problem on my own.

One more thing, do people normally go throughout their day without thinking? I've read it somewhere that most people don't think about anything while doing stuff but I find that almost impossible, I can hold a no thought moment for a few seconds but then I feel like I am about to explode and begin thinking.
 
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#6 Posted : 11/29/2013 5:26:02 AM

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woah23 wrote:
I hear their voice inside my head, and it's very similar to what they sound like if they actually talk.

As for the other two posts, I have considered that, however the problem would be that they give me some pill or make me talk about stuff they have no clue about... I would much rather talk to a monk or a shaman rather than any western psychiatrist. I personally detest pills because they only mask the true problem rather than fixing it. I do believe there is an explanation for this and I highly doubt any western "psychiatrist" is going to understand psychedelics... they will just label me crazy and hand me a bottle of pills; which is why I turn to this community.


Basically I am trying to conquer this problem on my own.

One more thing, do people normally go throughout their day without thinking? I've read it somewhere that most people don't think about anything while doing stuff but I find that almost impossible, I can hold a no thought moment for a few seconds but then I feel like I am about to explode and begin thinking.


First of all, I think it will be best if you don't assume that these people are DEFINITELY communicating with you. It is very possible that you are experiencing this completely internally, and it's best not identify this as telepathy (at least until you understand it).

I agree with the others that you should seek help, but also understand your dislike of the modern Western psychiatric impulse to diagnose and medicate. But there are other forms of professional help. Psychologists, for example, as well as cognitive therapy. You should also not be quick to judge medication and throw it out the window, it does work well for some. Especially those in dire situations. Hearing voices is a symptom of schizophrenia. But I don't mean to diagnose you, just know that having mental illnesses is normal and fine - it's like catching a flu, but your mind gets sick instead of your body. Medicine can help relieve the symptoms and you can go off them if they've served their initial purpose. I don't believe in the stigma surrounding mental illnesses and medications. They are just as valid as spiritual problems and psychedelics.

Where did you read that people don't think for periods of time? Perhaps you were reading about the state of flow? In which case, that isn't the complete cessation of thought. But rather you're so in the 'zone' that your thoughts aren't irrelevant or noisy or distracting. I think everyone has a somewhat constant stream of thought - albeit with intermissions of pure awareness (which you can experience more through presence and meditation).

All in all, I admire you trying to conquer this on your own, but if you are suffering and feel the voices are unstoppable, you should seek help. Seeking help is a sign of strength, not of weakness.

All the best.
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#7 Posted : 11/29/2013 6:58:19 AM
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Thank you, 0neir0naut. Your post cleared a few things up. I do realize that this is a sign of schizophrenia but I have read a book called The Far Side of Madness and basically the guy interviewed a couple of insane people and he concluded (like how you said) that any mental disease is a reaction caused by the mind wanting to fix something wrong. With that in mind I don't pay attention to any labeling because I know it's only a temporary state and giving it a name (and by the way the name is attached to the list of attributes a schizo has) only makes it worse.

The thing is that I know that these thoughts can be just hallucinations of my mind. I have read many articles concerning various cases of insanity and anxiety

The problem I am facing is that I know that the whole universe is contained inside me, and referring back to an earlier post, this would mean that anyone is able to communicate with anyone else just by thinking it.

For example people would say that when they are on shroom or stronger psychedelics they would eventually get to the point that they are able to communicate with each other without even talking or they would talk but it would sound like gibberish, but they still understand each other... therefore telepathy is possible and I believe I may have broken the part of my brain that can keep thoughts to myself? I think it may have happened a year ago when I spent several nights in a row not sleeping and just thinking 24/7

Maybe this is how my brain tells me that I need to stop thinking so much?

Often what helps is socializing but as soon as I stop talking its like I hear my thoughts being broadcasted... the problem is I move around frequently so I have few friends and I'm too paranoid of people hearing my thoughts to really go out and make new friends.

Another thing that helps is making music but then again I hear my parents yell at me when it's 2 in the morning and I'm still making a song... which discourages me to do anything when they are home besides sit glued to the tv and not think a thing
 
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#8 Posted : 11/29/2013 7:52:27 AM

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You could absolutely use some help, but I doubt you'll find the answers you're hoping to hear from this community.

Please refrain from any and all self-prescribed drugs - including (and especially) DMT and ayahuasca, and seek immediate help from a mental health professional.
 
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#9 Posted : 11/29/2013 8:18:21 AM

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woah, that does sound intense!
If i understand correctly, you have discovered, that we are all one and therefore conclude, that others must be able to hear your thoughts. Well, to discover that we're all one is a current theme encountered by many. It might be true. IT also might be true, that telepathic communication is possible. I highly doubt though, that most people are able to communicate with you telepathically or are able to read your mind. There is so much distraction in this world, that most people are not sensitive enough.

I believe that you might be going through some sort of spiritual crisis, and that the thoughts in your head might be mere residue of past, difficult experiences. I would be inclined to say, that you don't have to worry about the voices per se, but more about them posing a problem in your day to day life.

I can feel your wish to connect with a shaman or another suitable spiritual guide. I can only encourage you to do that. It is good to find someone, who can provide a fresh perspective on things. In the meantime, i would consider:

- Stopping the intake of all psychoactive drugs, including but not limited to psychedelics, cannabis and even caffeine/alcohol. Give your body and mind time to calm down and heal itself.

- Do consider psychiatric help as an option should things get out of hand. The thing is, these states sometimes have the tendency to get out of hands without you noticing. This is the real danger i believe. While i do believe that medication is not the solution, it might be able to provide a bandaid and gives you some time to seek out proper spiritual guidance.

- Don't be afraid to seek help and advice on this forum. Emotional support is very important and it's also a good idea to post regularly so others can gauge how well you are doing. There is always the chat with a ton of people online most of the time. Really, don't be shy and drop in in case of an accute emergency or otherwise.

There have been many many people before you in this situation and i've noticed many of them pulling through their difficulties. Even though they were even hard to understand for a "regular" person - really far gone, if you will. I'm telling you this because i believe that you can trust in your healing process. Your symptoms are probably very scary, but in many cases and with proper help & guidance - are temporary.

All the best!
 
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#10 Posted : 11/29/2013 3:51:59 PM

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woah23 wrote:


I hear their voice inside my head, and it's very similar to what they sound like if they actually talk.



sweet stuff huh

well to tell you the truth , its all in your head

now for the healing part , -

1> give up all psychoactives including cannabis and alcohol , most importantly cannabis and alcohol (i don't really know whether you smoke cannabis or not yet just give it up ,)

2> don't ever watch telivision , unless you really have to , it detiorates mental health by showing you an imaginary world in the movies and series

3> its a good thing you're making music , it will heal you , over time ofcourse

now here are the techniques that will heal you , remember its not a quick fix , it will take atleast a few months for you to be better and if you keep practicing the techniques for a few years , believe me you'll have no thought , you'll never think again and you will succeed in everything you do , life will be childs play and you'll never have another problem in your life

ya i know i promise a lot , practice the techniques for they will deliver

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...amp;m=500984#post500984

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=49235

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=44877

now read through all these threads , especially the thread called "slight problem" as i have gone through lengthy details about these techniques in that particular thread

the techniques basicly use sound and breath to "end thinking" , yes thats right

now please remember i cannot write everything i have already written in these threads again and again , so you need to read through them and most importantly practice the techniques
start practicing as soon as you've read the threads and let me know how you feel , you will be better in 3 months and most probably in 2 weeks you'll start noticing the changes , ,however to make sure you're always strong keep practicing these techniques forever

remember these techniques are ancient and Godlike and their power is beyond anything life can throw at you ,

madness , people problems , or any other problem - everything will be solved by the use of these techniques


illusions !, there are no illusions
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