We've Moved! Visit our NEW FORUM to join the latest discussions. This is an archive of our previous conversations...

You can find the login page for the old forum here.
CHATPRIVACYDONATELOGINREGISTER
DMT-Nexus
FAQWIKIHEALTH & SAFETYARTATTITUDEACTIVE TOPICS
Full moon in the desert - Surprise visit from an elf Options
 
Warrior
#1 Posted : 11/19/2013 11:11:50 PM

At Peace


Posts: 220
Joined: 11-Sep-2013
Last visit: 19-Feb-2019
Primer: I'm the adventurous type, and have always spent a lot of time in the wilderness on my own. I've always felt you can never experience true wilderness unless you are 100% off the map, on your own, with nothing left but your wits and survival instinct. I don't recommend this sort of thing unless you already deeply enjoy this. It's not for everybody. The idea is to craft a harrowing adventure in which you have the means to sharpen a given set of skills.

I found myself camping under the full moon in the middle of nowhere, surrounded by cacti and mountains made entirely of boulders. No flashlights were necessary at all, (with or without a substance that potentiates the visual experience). I had enough of an Aya analogue for two breakthrough experiences, (or one super-critical experience). I drank 2/3 of it after the moon had risen to full glory and a fire had been burning long enough to generate a bed of warm embers. This should have been a good, walloping dose. I had fasted for 16 hours, and found myself experiencing powerful static pattern overlay (SPO), which I felt gave me tremendous insight into how all the thorned desert plants came into existence the way they have. They 'try' to be scary. That's their strategy in life... Conservative with resources, barbed thorns to make those they interact with never forget, and they stand tall to intimidate and persuade animals to leave them alone. Cacti try to be scary.

The fire was alive and ethereal, and a source of deep trance experience, (but no breakthrough yet). I watched keenly as the spirit of the tree was escaping the wood during combustion. The heat it gave me was deeply appreciated. Walking about and exploring under the full moon in this state was incredible to say the least. But after over 3 hours of this passive, seemingly low dose experience, I wanted to either drink the rest and breakthrough, or give up, eat my late dinner, and get into my warm tent. But I had hiked a bit during the day and therefore was very hungry. I was even tired of trying to decide whether to drink again or eat, so I took that last 1/3 of the packed Aya and dumped it onto a cactus next to my tent so I couldn't flounder the decision any longer. It was about 3 hours and 15 minutes in when I ate a few bites of a meal, decided all I wanted to do was to clean up the campsite and get into bed. I was officially giving up. I could try and meditate in my tent if I felt inclined. That was part of the plan, but I had to move the food away and make the fire situation safe first.

I grabbed my cooler and camel pack and began the half mile walk back to my car where I would lock up the food and refill the water pouch. On the leisurely walk through the cacti I was eating an apple. I got to the car, put down the cooler, and took a few more steps beyond to throw the apple core in the opposite direction of my path when 'it' hit me. I broke through to hyperspace OUT OF NOWHERE. No warning, no build up. It was pushing on 3.5 hours after drinking, and it just HIT like a freight train out of the dark. I was transported to a world of Aztec-ian spiral art machines, completely inundated with OEV's. I was overwhelmed. I wasn't where I had planned to be (in my tent or next to the fire), and I still had some simple tasks to complete that were important to complete. The thought of dealing with coyotes or dehydration were legitimate and real, (but not immediately threatening). My logic was to just do what I needed to do, get back to my tent, and chill. But... Where had my keys gone to? Did I lose my keys??? I was 30 miles from the nearest town, and in a place where no locksmith would/could ever go...

Rational thinking overcame fear again, and I reminded myself that my keys hadn't been taken out of my bag since arriving. Finding them in the bag took several frantic minutes of problem solving, but I accomplished the task. Keys in hand. Vehicle opened. Food put inside. Water sloppily poured into pouch. I found myself frustrated with how difficult it was to focus without freaking out and decided I should take a break and sit in the car to collect myself. This 'getting hit by a freight train experience while away from my campsite' was not part of my master plan. I reminded myself there was no reason why I couldn't just sit in the car as long as I needed to. No rush. Don't panic. Meditate. Relax...

I ended up sitting still in the car, working towards turning this surprise experience back into a positive state of being when I was visited by an entity. It was difficult to engage it well because I was cold, and was still holding onto notions of working through fear (a clinging proposition), but it was present, and I could change focus, turn on the dome light, turn it off, and the entity was still present in my 'field of vision' before me. It seemed to come at me quickly through what seemed like a worm hole of Aztec-like art and symbols, all spinning and moving like machine pieces. Eventually, it left the same way it came. But this entity was sort of cartoon-like (which didn't match the Aztec imagery at all), but also very elf like. At the time, I didn't think much of the elf-like appearance, but afterwards realized this must be akin to the machine elf phenomena everyone talks about. It's the elf part of it... Weird.

This elf seemed to want to teach me something. During the encounter I also happened to have a lot of inner dialogue about the self reflective experience of freaking out over what was otherwise no big deal, and I assumed the elf was some kind of 'internal me', but as the encounter came to a close, it clearly was NOT me. In hindsight, it was definitely not me. It was something else entirely. I don't know if it was what hit me out of nowhere, or if I awoke the intense experience by eating and triggering digestion, but this was a very unexpected experience. Aya/DMT is a slippery beast among slippery beasts...

After the elf came and left I had this enchanted feeling about me, and everything returned to a blissful state. I was still seeing transient Aztec imagery as OEV's but felt comfortable enough to make the trek back to my campsite so I could warm up in my tent. I hadn't even finished processing this entire situation, but my mind had returned to a peaceful state. I wanted to be in my tent. So I went there. On the walk back to the campsite I began to really 'connect' with my environment on an entirely different level. At this point I felt like I could understand this inhospital desert environment on a very intimate level, and it seemed to welcome me in a way that I hadn't felt before. It was eery, but welcoming and friendly. It welcomed me to rest for the remainder of the night, and I did. The SPO OEV's lasted until ~13 hours after drinking. I don't remember when the Aztec symbolism left the visual experience, but it was around the time I was bedding down. I would have liked to meditate after warming up to explore that more, but the timing just didn't align properly. The peak breakthrough lasted a little over an hour (from ~3.5 hours to ~4.5 hours after drinking, maybe slightly longer).

It's taken me another two days to try and figure out what the heck happened out there... I think I went out there hoping to spook myself in a grand way, have myself a good freakout session, and I definitely hit the head of that nail squarely. I got the freakout session I was looking for, and it taught me incredible things about myself, left me in a blissful state afterwards, and I thoroughly feel like my skillset is sharper because of it. I just don't understand why this thing is so damn unpredictable. Why is breaking through so unpredictable?? Why did the entity come at me like it was TRYING to spook me? I really felt like it was part of its intention to shake me to the bone and test me. That's the honest impression I got. It's almost like it wanted to teach me a number of things, but most importantly, 'don't take lightly that which you don't understand.' Did I only breakthrough because there came an entity? Or did the entity come after the surprise breakthrough?

A few more thoughts:

The elf was firm, decisive, clear, and friendly. I felt like I have seen him before, but I can't say from where or when. Was it a previous experience and I hadn't fully processed it? Or was it from something else?

I had burned white sage, frankincense, and myrrh at my campsite. Did the entity come to me while I was away from my campsite for this reason? Was it not able to visit the campsite? Or was the timing more of a physiological thing related to digestion?

At around the 9 hour mark after drinking, while I was sitting silently in my warm tent, a bighorn sheep came hopping down the rocks towards me, slowly, clacking its hooves on the rocks as it came. It walked up to my tent and seemed to be smelling the the cacti that I poured the remaining Aya on. It seemed very interested in this. I had a slit in the tent I could peer through and see its body only 8 feet from where I was sitting. It never seemed to sense me. It explored with curiosity for a few minutes and then left silently. I do not know which direction it left in. I found hoof prints where it came off the rocks, but I didn't hear it jump back on the rocks, nor could I find tracks leaving my campsite.

In a previous Aya experience in the mountains I was approached by a baby deer. On that particular occasion it pranced around me in a fearless way for a solid 5-8 minutes. Both times I was basking in the afterglow, and both times the animal seemed indifferent to my presence. Both times the animal seemed to be very curious and completely without a fear or care in the world. It's almost as if you become invisible to animals as a source of danger while under the spell of an Aya experience. It's very peculiar.
 

STS is a community for people interested in growing, preserving and researching botanical species, particularly those with remarkable therapeutic and/or psychoactive properties.
 
Creo
#2 Posted : 11/19/2013 11:32:34 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 205
Joined: 12-Jun-2013
Last visit: 08-May-2019
Wonderful report Smile Thanks!
 
starway6
#3 Posted : 11/19/2013 11:54:02 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 1669
Joined: 10-Jul-2012
Last visit: 07-Sep-2019
Location: planet earth
Sounds like a great trip!
Was it in the arizona desert?
I read that the most popular and common cacti in arizona is phycoactive!Very happy
Cheers...
 
Warrior
#4 Posted : 11/20/2013 12:43:20 AM

At Peace


Posts: 220
Joined: 11-Sep-2013
Last visit: 19-Feb-2019
Creo wrote:
Wonderful report Smile Thanks!


Thanks for reading! Smile


starway6 wrote:
Sounds like a great trip!
Was it in the arizona desert?
I read that the most popular and common cacti in arizona is phycoactive!Very happy
Cheers...



Not Arizona, but close. The most common cacti here was jumping cholla.

A happy cheers to you too!
 
spinCycle
#5 Posted : 11/20/2013 6:07:04 AM

Life is Art is Life


Posts: 697
Joined: 11-Sep-2012
Last visit: 13-Apr-2016
Location: watching the wheels go round and round
A most enjoyable read.

I too had a dear approach me about 5 or 10 minutes after a changa session out in the forest. I looked up and it was about 40 or 50 feet away. I spoke to it in a very casual way, something like "Hey there, what's up?" and it walked up to about 15feet away and stared for a few minutes before suddenly running off.

About 15 minutes later a coyote very casually walked through the edge of my campsite without seeming to notice me. Thumbs up
Images of broken light,
Which dance before me like a million eyes,
They call me on and on...

 
Warrior
#6 Posted : 11/20/2013 7:23:39 PM

At Peace


Posts: 220
Joined: 11-Sep-2013
Last visit: 19-Feb-2019
spinCycle wrote:
A most enjoyable read.

I too had a dear approach me about 5 or 10 minutes after a changa session out in the forest. I looked up and it was about 40 or 50 feet away. I spoke to it in a very casual way, something like "Hey there, what's up?" and it walked up to about 15feet away and stared for a few minutes before suddenly running off.

About 15 minutes later a coyote very casually walked through the edge of my campsite without seeming to notice me. Thumbs up


Thank you, spinCycle. Smile

The young deer I met also wasn't afraid of my voice. And on that same day, there were a lot of flies and mosquitos buzzing around me. After drinking Aya they seemed to immediately disperse and leave me alone. It was very, very interesting. Normally I'm a mosquito magnet.
 
thymamai
#7 Posted : 11/20/2013 8:55:56 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 711
Joined: 22-Jan-2012
Last visit: 10-Mar-2023
Interesting observations. Especially about other life reacting to you differently, very curious! Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed reading.
 
DreaMTripper
#8 Posted : 12/6/2013 9:10:55 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 1893
Joined: 18-Jan-2008
Last visit: 26-Sep-2023
Sounded an interesting night indeed! Maybe the elf was trying to teach you to be a bit more prepared I did laugh at the bit about 7 minutes of frantic problem solving its takes a world of concentration to do little tasks without getting distracted by the sucking vortex of infinite beauty Very happy
 
Elpo
#9 Posted : 12/6/2013 11:01:19 AM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 628
Joined: 12-Jan-2010
Last visit: 28-Feb-2019
Great report and well written. Very interesting indeed about the encounter with wildlife. The only time I had this happen to me was with a big bird that was hovering above my head for some minutes, but never with a land animal.

The other thing that I have had happen to me as well is when leaving the heat source (in this case the fire) strange things happen intensifying the trip. I don't really know why this happens but it is an interesting phenomenon. On my last lsd trip I was camping with friends and we were sitting around a fire. When leaving it to check out the stream nearby it really changed my trip. I felt that I had left the safety of the camp and was confronted by the sound of the water, which seemed as if it was talking to me in dozens of different voices all mixed together. I actually felt a bit scared at that time.

"It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
 
cave paintings
#10 Posted : 12/6/2013 3:56:34 PM

DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 415
Joined: 10-Jul-2010
Last visit: 18-Apr-2020
Location: Earth
Very enjoyable and cool read friend! On the note of animals.. I once was out in the Southern California desert, hiked up a palm oasis with a couple friends, ate some lsd, and spent the day generally goofing off, being, kissing, climbing boulders, and paddling in the creek. Towards the end of the day, two bighorned sheep came down the boulderous hillside and boy is it amazing how they can climb and descend! Seems almost unreal the way they scamper down such vertical angles. But similar to your story, they paid no mind to us, coming VERY close to drink from the river, and then hopping about some rocks more, posing regally about their choice ones. I feel they knew we meant them no harm and only wanted to see them. To desert psychedelia! One of my personal favorites.
Living to Give
 
Warrior
#11 Posted : 2/20/2014 1:41:00 AM

At Peace


Posts: 220
Joined: 11-Sep-2013
Last visit: 19-Feb-2019
Sorry for the late comments everybody. I appreciated reading all. I think I just ran out of things to say in response. I've had a lot to process.

So I'm about to go out to the desert again, this time with some friends. And these friends aren't in to these kind of experiences so much, but I have some things I want to add to this thread since I've been actively thinking about the desert again.

First off, I believe there lurks some kind of dark energy of some kind in the dryness of the desert. Something about the place screams death and abandonment, and it's the same visionary element ancient societies have seen via shamanic traditions time and time again.

Second, I'm hesitant to post this because I know it's not the general vibe of this board, but on several occasions now I have tried to invoke specific encounters in order to test a hypothesis about these spirit entities, and low and behold, it turns out these experiences are relatively repeatable for me. For example, if I invoke the presence of my spirit guides and guardians, they... Show up. And when I ask them for help, they give me insight into whatever I ask for help with. It's been kinda wild. Nonetheless, looking back, I realize that the elf I met in this encounter was also there to protect me. It came after a traumatic encounter with a dark energy of some kind, it showed me it's strength and might, and then paved me a safe journey for the remainder of my visit.

This interpretation is open to change, but this is how I am interpreting it now. I'm realizing that these entities are with us all the time and we don't know it. Just saying... If you're curious about this stuff, I highly recommend trying it yourself. Smile

 
dreamer042
#12 Posted : 2/20/2014 2:21:19 AM

Dreamoar

Moderator | Skills: Mostly harmless

Posts: 4711
Joined: 10-Sep-2009
Last visit: 20-Oct-2024
Location: Rocky mountain high
The desert does have a very specific kind of magic all it's own. It is a merciless place where death is always lurking close at hand. Much like the cacti and the sacred datura that inhabit it, it carries a dangerous and hostile beauty meant only for those with sturdy heart and adventurous souls.

The spirits of nature are a lot more real than many give them credit for, it sounds like you've been discovering that firsthand. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us and writing this beautiful report. I wish you many blessings upon your continued path.

Matiosh
Row, row, row your boat, Gently down the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...

Visual diagram for the administration of dimethyltryptamine

Visual diagram for the administration of ayahuasca
 
Warrior
#13 Posted : 2/20/2014 11:36:19 PM

At Peace


Posts: 220
Joined: 11-Sep-2013
Last visit: 19-Feb-2019
Thank you dreamer! Many blessings to you.
 
DesykaLamgeenie
#14 Posted : 2/21/2014 6:00:40 AM
DMT-Nexus member


Posts: 210
Joined: 08-Feb-2012
Last visit: 11-Oct-2020
Hey Warrior, I don't think I saw your original post back in 2013, so first off - loved the write-up. I too love solo adventures into the wilderness and the way you depicted your experience and the desert definitely have me looking forward to my first experience of that sort in a desert, which should be within the next few months. Super excited.

Also wanted to chime in about the delayed onset - I've heard several people mention that sometimes DMT can get caught up in the digestive system and an experience that seems to be a dud may begin after eating something. That was all hearsay until I had my own experience of this - I'd taken ACRB and some Rue tea and after quite some time I was sure it wasn't going anywhere...so I started eating since I was really hungry, and probably 5 minutes in I had the thought "Ha, what if this is one of those situations I've heard about and it starts coming on after I've eaten" - and seriously, within 5 seconds of thinking that a wave began washing over me and the experience immediately began. I laughed joyfully and got myself situated. Smile


Much love!
 
Warrior
#15 Posted : 2/26/2014 4:50:09 PM

At Peace


Posts: 220
Joined: 11-Sep-2013
Last visit: 19-Feb-2019
DesykaLamgeenie wrote:
Hey Warrior, I don't think I saw your original post back in 2013, so first off - loved the write-up. I too love solo adventures into the wilderness and the way you depicted your experience and the desert definitely have me looking forward to my first experience of that sort in a desert, which should be within the next few months. Super excited.


Thank you!

Yeah, the thing I find is that I enjoy all of this stuff too much to only explore it from the comfort of my living room. In ways, I feel more at home, more at peace, and more comfortable in the wilderness than I do at home in the bustling city. I would go to whatever wilderness was available to do this (wherever I lived). I like to study the plants and wildlife like an ecologist, study the cultural history like an anthropologist, study the terrain like a geologist/surveyor/explorer, and then fully immerse myself in it. Someday I would like to do longer trips out and supplement diet by trapping and fishing. I've been dreaming up some gonzo ethology experiments also.


Quote:
Also wanted to chime in about the delayed onset - I've heard several people mention that sometimes DMT can get caught up in the digestive system and an experience that seems to be a dud may begin after eating something. That was all hearsay until I had my own experience of this - I'd taken ACRB and some Rue tea and after quite some time I was sure it wasn't going anywhere...so I started eating since I was really hungry, and probably 5 minutes in I had the thought "Ha, what if this is one of those situations I've heard about and it starts coming on after I've eaten" - and seriously, within 5 seconds of thinking that a wave began washing over me and the experience immediately began. I laughed joyfully and got myself situated. Smile


Much love!



Yeah, I agree completely. I've wondered if it's as simple as tension in the digestive system holding back the food bolus in the stomach or duodenum before an absorption phase, and eating or moving around could trigger the process. But the crazy part is that it came on so strong that the breakthrough experience was more powerful and profound than my most intense smoked DMT has ever been.

Also, even if it was digestive, why couldn't the digestive trigger be something mystical? That's the part that no science or physiology can ever explain well. They say biology is the science of exceptions. At times, even in the best controlled experiments, the wet biology does whatever the heck it wants to do. After years of laboratory experience I have come to witness this time and time again. So I take it all very lightly and whimsically now.


Blessings to you! I say if it's in you, go for it!
 
Warrior
#16 Posted : 6/14/2016 5:46:23 PM

At Peace


Posts: 220
Joined: 11-Sep-2013
Last visit: 19-Feb-2019
I have gone out to the desert to re-experience this one again several times. My first experience (this one) was the most harrowing. After that, and much more work with sacred plants, going back again began to feel like no big deal. There are always still the jitters before launch, but I'm not scared to the point of fearing losing control of bodily functions, or similar anymore. Going back out now is more like a retreat camping trip.

Interestingly, if I bring a friend or two, I feel their fears like they were my own. The harrowing nature of this form of experience comes back through the experiences of others. It is no longer my fear, but a keen awareness of group fear. I begin to feel like the rudder of a boat, gently directing motion. I guide them to face themselves, and to face true wilderness, and we go through the emotional roller coaster together.

I feel that having been pronounced dead in 2011, having experienced coma, having experienced nightshade delirium for 5+ days straight, I can work through anything as long as my body is okay. I feel something I can offer others is to take them to the depths of their psyche, show them how crazy it really is, guide them back as grounding rod, and help them integrate it all again after. It's more than a gift. It is a calling.
 
 
Users browsing this forum
Guest (3)

DMT-Nexus theme created by The Traveler
This page was generated in 0.040 seconds.