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stationdragon
#1 Posted : 11/19/2013 3:14:20 PM

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Someone please give me an extraction method that has a high yield and works every time with no strange anomalies.
I can't find anybody else experiencing my sludge problem online. I don't know what is happening and I'm pretty sure I've changed nothing in my technique.
I DO NOT WANT THIS TO FAIL ON ME AGAIN!

DMT is supposed to make me feel enlightened and satisfied but I'm just confused and pissed off. This isn't what I make DMT for, to waste my money and end up with zero yield. WTF is going wrong?
 

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#2 Posted : 11/19/2013 3:53:47 PM
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Someone please give me an extraction method that has a high yield and works every time with no strange anomalies.


No offense, but I suggest you go to the FAQ and do some reading. Honestly what you are asking for doesn't really exist. There is always the potential for anomalies which is why it is good to have a basic idea of what you are doing rather than just following instructions. Also, as far as high yield goes, that completely depends on your source material.

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DMT is supposed to make me feel enlightened and satisfied but I'm just confused and pissed off. This isn't what I make DMT for, to waste my money and end up with zero yield. WTF is going wrong?


Take a couple deep breaths and calm down. The past is the past and you can't change it so there is no need to dwell on it. As I previously mentioned, do some reading into the various teks, if you are just spoonfed information with no idea of what is happening with each step this is just likely to cause you more problems.
 
stationdragon
#3 Posted : 11/19/2013 6:33:51 PM

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Ok, I know what I'm asking for doesn't exist. I just got stressed out and desperate and I'm crying out for help.
I have read so many different teks and the problem I'm finding is that as you say it's just a list of instructions. I know what I'm doing with the method I use, it's STB. Nomans tek with the addition of salt and skipping the ammonia wash and also a higher lye content (as this helped get me good yields previously). I know that adding the root bark to lye water strips the molecules down out of the bark. I know that the DMT molecules and naphtha are attracted to each other and by getting them into contact with each other the naphtha acts like a magnet collecting up all the DMT molecules. I know that when I put the jars into the freezer I'm causing the DMT to freeze and become solid and form crystals which can be collected up. I get ALL of this...but what I don't get is the science behind the slime. Why did I get big white floating chunks of slimy stuff that dried to a thin yellow film? What is this stuff, where is the DMT, what is causing this to happen, why is it preventing the formation of sandy DMT crystals??? Seriously, none are growing on the jar, none have precipitated out.
The problem I have is I can't find any answers to what is happening here, no one on here seems to know. I need a chemist who knows the problem and can guide me. Reading teks is not going to help, I don't think.
Something just tells me this is going to keep happening.
I don't think the elves want me to visit
 
DMTripper
#4 Posted : 12/23/2013 4:08:30 AM

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stationdragon wrote:

I don't think the elves want me to visit


That's probably it Pleased
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DMTripper is a fictional character therefore everything he says here must be fiction.
I mean, who really believes there is such a place as Hyperspace!!

 
DreaMTripper
#5 Posted : 12/23/2013 5:41:58 AM

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Didnt you ascertain it was the freezer not cold enough? You also said you had now yeilded a satisfactory waxy product by evaporation and had more to come. That slime just sounds like dirty dmt to me. Have you tried a sodium carbonate wash of the solvent?
If youre in the uk why look further than FASA or Cybs hybrid tek or just follow the BLAB tek? Teks that have a much better refinement of alkaloids with simple defatting and cleanup steps.
Reading teks wont help no but this was the first link when I google searched dmt nexus naptha slime ..
https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=5474
Stress stops learning so why not take some time out to relax and get better first then have a fresh start with a different tek.
 
stationdragon
#6 Posted : 12/23/2013 6:08:47 AM

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This is not a recent post my friend, it is another step towards where we are today.
I'm quite happy to stick with the tek I use, it's simple and suits my needs and through this process of elimination of recent days I think we can be sure that the freezer is to blame for the most part of the problems here.
I have detailed in my most recent thread in which we were discussing this problem that I now intend to fully evap and either re-x or don't bother. I don't need a new tek.
Funnily enough when this slime problem hit me last time (which I now understand to be under saturation and too low temperatures) I happened to be at another point of suddenly being quite ill, responsible for other persons money in the extraction that was failing and was having a previous attempt at giving up smoking. Funny how those seem to be the circumstances I'm living with when the extraction doesn't go to plan.
No worries now though, just a tweak here and there and I'll have this just how I want it.
Unfortunately you stumbled upon another one of my desperate cries for help when things weren't working out for me in the DiMiTri department.
Half way through my course of meds now, if all is well I should be blasting off during the countdown to new year and returning in 2014. It's certainly one way to blow out the cobwebs and start the year fresh
 
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#7 Posted : 12/23/2013 8:58:28 AM

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Ah yeah I didnt see the dates good that youve found a reliable way.
Sure would be a good way to enter 2014 Very happy
 
 
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