great tactfulness hyperspace f.. many over at the ayahuasca.com site go over topics similar to this one and a lot come to the same thing,,, that love, light, and understanding are some of the best means to disrupt any kind negative spiritual growth/entities/thoughts of/on anything that 'seems' try to take hold negatively when people begin to open up to higher places. its almost as simple as when people say to surround yourself with positive people, and these people can make your success. intra-dimensional beings i imagine would be no different. cultivation of positivity in these states, maybe even with good intending allies, in this world and hyperspace, could do nothing but embellish anyones life for the better.

it is interesting to me as well that amazonian shamans who have worked with ayahuasca, which would be the oldest known record of human use with dmt, would also mention spiritual parasites.

How would you determine if a dark/negative entity is not just masquerading as a light/positive entity, as the demons of the bible allegedly did?



"Good" and "bad" are relative/subjective terms, as are positive and negative (to a somewhat "lesser" degree). I'm assuming by "good" you mean reflecting love and not intentionally inflicting suffering onto others...

Damn semantics lol

Indeed S-II... semantics are the bane of communication. Telepathy is so much more congenial
and refined. (don't you think?)

While it seems like it could be difficult to tell the negatrons from the good guys, this is not such a huge problem... once you have met a few of the good ones. A demon could certainly fool someone into thinking he was an angel, or even god almighty... if that person had never seen a radiant light being before.

I am not saying that we can't be fooled. After all, the great devils are supposedly angels themselves. And, the concepts of good and evil are relative.

I suggest that we consider the motives and actions of entities as they relate to us, and judge them to fit in a variety of classifications. It may well be that these inter-dimensional forces are fighting with each other and we are merely in the way. We could be cosmic collateral damage... or even a proxy war for their Hyperspatial Cold War.

As long as we are not privy to the details of their beef with each other, we can easily misinterpret the actions... but like a villager in the middle of the Vietnam war, the actual rationale behind the conflict matters much less than if the people in front of us are spraying napalm on us.

As such, you can judge entities by how they treat you. If they aid you, shower you with bliss and love, and keep their word to you... it is a good sign. The reality, is that you can feel the truth about entities. Only the most powerful can completely disguise their nature when they are in telepathic communication with you. And even then, there is usually an odd absence of love about them. Do not trust beings that smile without any love in their eyes (militant salvia entities, I am looking at you).

And, listen to your inner voice.

Once you have met and witnessed an archangel or a being of similar compassion, you will not be fooled by smiling devils or even helpful demons.

There are plenty of beings that are not on either side, and the grey entities can run the gamut. For instance, many of the parasites discussed here are not "dark" or "light" so much as voracious for negative emotions. Also, you may find some dragons (for instance) to be helpful and wise, while there are others that are as black-hearted and malicious as they come. In the end, though, it is my opinion that there are very few beings that are truly neutral. Even Switzerland wasn't and certainly isn't neutral. Everyone takes a side at some point. Or... they are serving the purpose of a side unawares.

Some parasites may be mindless and non-partisan of themselves... but they were manifested and directed by intelligences that are neither mindless nor non-partisan. These vermin are like biological weapons... except they are not biological.

This isn't dark vs. light per se, or even good vs. evil... though those are not terms I shy away from because they are predominantly accurate. The real issue at hand is LIFE vs. Anti-Life.

There are forces that champion and support life... and there are forces that are hell-bent on destruction. They may tempt you with aspects of life that can snare you, and you might imagine them to have some stake in life... or at least be interested and appreciative of it. But alas, they are not interested in life or the living at all... other than as a means to further its destruction. Their goal is nothing short of the utter destruction of all that is. Thus, you can not ally with them, no matter what they say.

As a living being, part of the Universe, and the vast Omni-Self, you can not make peace with the pathogens. Their only desire is to wreak havoc on the system that sustains you. You can not tame them. You can not abide them. They will show you no mercy.

(HF takes off his "voice of doom" mantle...)

Sorry to sound like a downer. I am not a maudlin or negative chap.

I suppose I have said all this stuff before, and there is no point in belaboring the point. Those of you who know what I am on about will know... and the rest of you are free to mock me until or if such experiences befall you directly.

And, whatever camp you find yourself in... I still truly dig and love all of you travelers on these cosmic byways.

What the ?

http://www.examiner.com/...mensional-mind-parasites


My memory is not that great according to those I know, but I wouldn't know better lol.

Hyperspace fool... thanks for all your words. I'm glad I'm not alone in believing in these things. Years ago I would have thought all of us who talk about this stuff were psychotic. I have friends who if I mentioned this stuff to, they'd think that as well, even though they are psychonauts too. They take more of an atheist/materialist view of the world. They'd tell me it's my subconscious coming alive. But it's not. It's not until you have these experiences for yourself that it all becomes so real and truth. Especially like in my case, experiencing these things (over several trips, evolving each time and becoming more evident, until my last trip where they were revealed for what they are) and then confirming it AFTERWARDS with what I read.

Hyperspace Fool, I'm glad you came out in support of those of us who've had these experiences. You are a popular poster here and to put your reputation on the line just goes to show that there's gotta be something to this. Like you mentioned of yourself... if people were to meet me in real life, they'd know that I am not crazy/delusional/psychotic. We are sane people... honestly, probably more sane than most others on earth. (looking around seeing people starting fights, hurting others, hurting the earth, etc.. clearly we're the sane ones, trying to help make a better, more conscious world based off of love and compassion.) Even if we seem delusional for believing so deeply in these "delusional" things.



I want to briefly mention cannabis. I've been smoking regularly since 14 - six years now - and I've been smoking heavily, mulitple times a day for the past like four years. Needless to say, I was pretty much always high, and if I wasn't, I would be as soon as it was possible. I'm on another break from cannabis now, for tolerance, as well as to have more clarity and energy... and after that last possession experience, to help severe my connection with these parasitic bastards, because I feel like being high all the time had something to do with them "targetting" me.

My concern is... idk if I'll be able to go back to using pot recreationally now. I'd like to.. of course not daily and abusing it like I did before... but idk... I feel like cannabis won't be the same for me anymore, but I could be wrong. Only time will tell, when I light up again

Yeah BB, I know what you mean about dear mama Ganja.

We have discussed this on a number of threads, but I will just recap what I have found vis a vis the ol' cannabis:
Basically it's use puts holes in your energetic field.

These swiss cheese tunnels open you up... figuratively and literally. This is both the good thing about weed, and the woefully terrible thing about it. When you are young and your biggest problems are being too full of testosterone and too locked in the material illusion being shoved down your throat, then grass can be just what the doctor ordered.

However, as you progress on the spiritual path, weed begins to hold you back. And, at a certain point, it becomes a serious weakness. Once you have dark forces targeting you or attempting to attack you, weed is a calamitous vulnerability in your defenses. It can be anyway.

I don't think that the holes are instant or equal for all people. Thus, it is mostly an issue for people who have been heavy tokers. If you have gone years being high all the time, it will eventually bite you in the ass.

You, my friend, are lucky. 6 years may seem like a long time, but I went 20 years puffing trees like I was Paul Bunion... consuming ridiculous quantities of the sickest herb before I even tried to quit or take any serious break... long after weed had stopped being helpful and had become a very obvious kryptonite for me. And even then, it took numerous tries to quit. I would go 2 years without a toke and then bang! be right back into it again.

Imagine Superman willfully and joyously taking double wide bonghits of kryptonite from a 4 footer, while hanging upside down... in a sauna.

Not really proud of that, or other foolhardy things I have done. The truth is, without my allies, I would have been toast many times over.

But I have learned. I can't speak for you. You are still rather young, you may have some good years of MJ consumption left in you. For me, however, the party's over. I may have gotten to a place where only Aya (and the analogues) & Spice/Changa are worthy sacraments for me now. We shall see.

Good luck bro. All the best.

HF

I don"t really understand this. Are the holes in our energy fields opened up, so letting various spiritual forces and ideas through. But if you do it too much and for too long then the wrong types of spiritual energy gets through? Why are younger people less likely to suffer from this? Is it because the more you do it, the more holes you make?

I think if you abuse any substance for long enough, whether it be weed, alcohol, heroin or crunchy nut cornflakes, it is going to play havoc with your spiritual well being.

......come over to the dark side

Jin i believe that i have been over to the dark side on more than one occasion. I have smoked weed on and off for over 30 years and also had a long and painful addiction to Tesco"s own brand of sugar crusted muesli (with bits of dried strawberry in it, just thinking about this is making my hands shake).

The way i see it is that if a "straight" person is reading this. Perhaps even a government official who may have an interest in whether entheogens should be legalized. Then they may just think we are all a bunch of out there freakazoids and wash their hands of the whole thing. There needs to be a counter argument, whether i am right or wrong.

I apologize for my scoffing and occasional bolshiness, but i cannot change this. It is down to irreversible flaws in my character. No doubt these flaws are due to unperceived negative entities travelling through the holes in my energy field. Holes that were made by my reckless self abuse.

edit : ya i think i read the whole thing wrong

holes in my aura , perhaps

Don"t worry, my refusal to use the emoticon icons when i am dead panning is probably caused by negative entities. In fact, fuck it, i might just blame negative entities for everything i do wrong. It would be a great way of absolving myself of any responsibility in this life.

Mind you, this is just my opinion... but I think that young men may benefit from cannabis use because it balances out the super high levels of testosterone they have. It is my observation that youngsters who smoke weed in that time of their lives are less violent, less likely to join gangs, less likely to be hopped up and looking for a fight than their counterparts who don't smoke weed. (or abuse alcohol and meth or whatever instead)

In this sense, the benefits outweigh the negatives. The mind expanding and peace infusing aspect of weed is helpful, and the holes that weed puts in your energy field are not yet pronounced or prevalent. I suppose those people with healthy relationships with weed might be able to go their whole lives only smoking a bit here and there and never run into the problems I spoke of. But, I was speaking to someone who obviously had been abusing weed and was encountering the difficulties which I was addressing.

Another factor that I was alluding to--perhaps not so clearly--is that as you raise your frequency by developing your consciousness and being exposed to higher dimensional realms... you begin to attract attention from the beings that operate on those levels. A young stoner is less likely to be the object of serious spiritual warfare for this reason, and as such, is also less likely to have dark entities exploiting the holes in his aura.

I realize how this must sound to the uninitiated, but that is not a reason to not say it. If you popped onto a forum of chemistry geeks and read what they were saying to each other, you might find them to be nuts as well. Any people who are at the upper limits of a field of study will seem either incomprehensible or completely out to lunch to people without the basis, experience and background to understand what is being discussed. This is equally true of surfers, base jumpers, physicists and yogis. It matters not what you are talking about, you have to dumb it way down for noobs.

Please do not take this the wrong way anyone. This is not me being arrogant here. I am not insulting noobs. We all started as noobs. There is no shame in being new to the game. It is just a natural fact that the inexperienced in any subject will find the lingo and general level of discussion of the experienced to be rather dense and heady... and when it comes to things like spice and hyperdimensional entities, this is even more the case.

You worried what normal people would think reading this stuff here... I say worry not, because everything on the Nexus seems fantastical and impossibly crazy to someone who has never tried DMT. EVERYTHING. It doesn't matter how rational we come off. It doesn't matter if we seem knowledgeable about chemistry, and concerned about safety. The simple fact is that normal folk find all of us to be looney toons. If someone is inclined to dislike drug users, they will do so, irregardless. Most LEO think of a spice extractor as no different from a guy running a meth lab. Walter White was a rational and smart guy too. And, even Jesse Pinkman could speak authoritatively on the chemistry involved in making the blue meth.

It doesn't matter what we say. Some people will simply find us all to be nutjob criminals. Period. Just goes with the territory.

Well said. I've butted heads myself with hf but would agree completely with his tact and respect his experienced views and fortitude regarding things only a fraction of a percent of people alive can attest to.

People don't understand me, some things can't be simplified. I've been said to go too far or be too complicated in ideas, when my approach is to actually simplify things. When you know you know, ya know?

Even as an experienced traveler, I don't prescribe to a holier than thou thinking. I've become more understanding and knowing when getting others to see things a certain way is not important. What others have gotten that I haven't is this miraculous cure of addiction. I still drink, but much less, i dislike getting wasted, and do see the childish annoyances of my closest friends who can't moderate.

And I do for now need mj. I'm a tightly wound spirit and need something to shut down the aggresion that comes from a stressful world so that I don't bring stress home. I'm no one to gospel, I just share my findings and beliefs, reluctantly, as I'm not one to want the spotlight, but I've been found regretting not sharing things I've found later could have shed light and inspiration that I held back for fear of acceptance. Leadership requires followership. Even the best of us need to know when to step back and let a hard lesson be learned.

i don't understand why more people are not joining the dark side

come over to the dark side people , lord vader shall protect you from the entities

yoda can't do $#!~ about it

join the forces now

the dark side is here - do not fear ,

this is where the party is

free entry for everyone , unlimited cannabis and booze

smoke and drink till you die , the party never ends , you might but not the party

yesssssssssssssssssssssss

say yessssssssssssssssssssssss to the darkside

edit : i understand forces are being aligned now , the warriors of light are recruiting there own and so is the dark side ,
choose your side ,
know your opponent ,
do you know how to handle a saber ?
have you seen yoda in action ?
are you green ?

I have to agree with you Hyperspace Fool. I've been told by entities to never smoke it again. And I do miss how it used to make me feel. Very relaxed and euphoric but now it is quite a hellish experience unfortunately. It deepenly sadens me.. and disconnects me from life and everything good. I've learned a lot from it but itas like its time to throw in the towel for cannabis. Altho I am growing a plant right now I will never smoke it again I thin. I've taken 3 month breaks and I felt the best I ever felt when I did but now its a firm message to not smoke. I will however partake in mushrooms and DMT. Maybe salvia. I really like this thread and what everyone has said these last posts especially. I'm only 22 as well but I had a darker past than most with drugs.

[sends Hyperspace Fool a psychic thought bubble]



This makes a lot of sense, thank you for the insight, HF.

That is interesting. Maybe with long term use and tolerance our testosterone levels rise up again and we revert to being thugs. I don"t know whether it is a sign of the times but i have come across quite a few young heavy dope smokers who are violent little shits. I think it very much depends on the kind of person that is using the tool in question as to how it gets used.



Yes but you could have a go at the obvious questions. Like where in relation to our bodies is our energy field? Or if the weed punches holes in our energy fields, where does the energy that it removes go? How does it punch the holes? Does it punch the holes like a whole puncher that you use on a peice of A4 paper? Or is it some sort of unexplainable
quantum physics/spiritual inter-connectedness thing?



The ole Hyperspace Fool disclaimer rears it"s head once again. You should get it carved on your gravestone!!



I think it does.
There are different levels of "normal" people and some are very open-minded. I do not care what people think of my drug use but if i can relate to them in what is generally perceived as a rational manner concerning said drugs, it may help to break down the "us and them" divide. Which can only be helpful for future legislation. Sometimes you have to speak to people in a language that they understand.
I really do not see what Walter White and Jesse Pinkman being knowledgable about chemistry have to do with the price of fish. They are fictional characters from a TV programme......

It must be a case of "to each their own", but i cannot help thinking that someone who is going on about powerful, evil, exterior entities, that certain "real" people are in league with, could have a detrimental effect on an impressionable young mind. Especially if you are saying that you have to dumb it all down for them. What if they enter hyperspace and are confronted by one of these creatures? They"ll be freaking out about holes in their energy fields and not having the years of psychonautical experience to deal with the situation. This could lead to panic city. When i was in my late teens and early 20s i have to say that i was fairly easily influenced by certain people that i chose to look up to.



I hear you. And i do not mean to scoff at any of your personal experiences. At worse i am ribbing you all a little bit, but over all i am just interested in the discussion and what makes people tick.

i forgot to mention this , yet except for the unlimited cannabis and booze

the darkside has got naked girls running everwhere

also why are people watching breaking bad - that one is really boring i watched one of its episode and that was it , just so .........not right , everything seems to be moving at snails pace

HF are you watching "Supernatural" by any chance , killing things and monsters , the family buissness , i know its turned a little boring now

i think the best series i have ever watched got to be "lost " and "24" , crazy crazy stuff

"fringe" is kinda disappointing aswell

can anyone recommend anything like "lost" , i guess thats the best of the crazy stuff out there except the end part i guess , it got boring towards the end

apart from all the jokes i have one serious question to ask

HF what are your views on the "Godmode" experiences ? how does that fit into all this

the Godmode experience reminds us we are Gods , creators of the whole universe

what is there to fear of the entities or the aura holes when one is God and human life is only a dream

I don"t know, but i have seen Lost. Which i quite enjoyed. This further emphasizes my thoughts on the pliability and capabilities of the human mind. If you can enjoy that shite, anything is possible!!

If you really want to derail this thread with some crazy arsed tv fodder i recommend the link below. I showed it to my girlfriend and she was so weirded out and disturbed by it that i had to switch it off .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfsMZKwqw3w