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Du57mi73
#1861 Posted : 11/14/2013 7:47:03 PM

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So far no one knows if iodized salt is Okay to use, but its advised not to use it.
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#1862 Posted : 11/14/2013 10:27:20 PM

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Hello,

Most cleaning/purification teks mention either washing the spice while still in a solvent or doing a recrystallisation - most of them are about fumarates as well and I don't have any of those...

What I do have is a solution of vinegar, water and lye containing quite a few freebase molecules and crystals...

Foolishly, I have been pulling from this solution with naphtha...

Why shouldn't I gently pour the solution through a coffee filter and then rinse the dmt with cold water, then air dry? Will the NaOH dissolve the coffee filter?

I'll make a small solution of NaOH and water and pour this through a coffee filter and see what happens...
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Du57mi73
#1863 Posted : 11/15/2013 12:36:26 AM

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Dooby, it depends on what you're trying to clean off of your spice, if its oils(which most people are trying to remove to get pure white crystals), then a re-x and freeze precip is the best way to do that. If you're trying to clean up lye/base soup contamination then mixxing it back into an acid(vinegar), rebasing, and pulling again is another option. Its just a waste of materials when all you really need is just a NPS. That's why people prefer that. It doesn't require lye or acids.
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#1864 Posted : 11/15/2013 12:46:12 AM

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Since there is no organic material in the solution, just water, vinegar and sodium hydroxide I thought i might be able to remove the freebase crystals, which have clearly precipitated, without use of an nps...

I'll do some more pulls with nps and save some of the solution for a filtration/wash experiment...
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#1865 Posted : 11/15/2013 6:11:52 AM
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FourWinds has done some searching and has a few questions he's been unable to find.

Can 91% isopropyl alcohol can be dried to 100% like 99% can with heated epsom salts. Is this possible? If so, how much heated epsom salt should one used?

FourWinds wants to try mescaline fumarate as he is tired of nauseating pedro powder. A few people on here have reported it to be insoluble in fasipa, so he wants to give it a go. He will also be experimenting with acrb extractions and is curious if nmt will precipitate when adding sodium carbonate solution as in BLAB tek water precipitation? It'd be nice if it didn't for accurate dosing and making changa.

One last thing, has anyone tried fasipa with acrb? If so what were the results?

Thanks.
 
Du57mi73
#1866 Posted : 11/15/2013 7:42:55 AM

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FASI should work just as well with acrb as anything else.

Epsoms should be soluble somewhere in the range of 1g/100ml IPA. I don't think you want any mag sulfate in your final IPA though, so I don't think you want to do this. If you want to try this anyway to see what actually happens then heat the epsoms to 500 degrees for an hour or two and it'll be ready. Then absorb a gram of it into 100ml of your IPA and see how much of it drops out(noting that it will be heptahydrate when it comes out.

I'm pretty sure NMT will follow what DMT in the BLAB tek.

These are all guesses based on prior experience, and I hope someone can answer you with more definitive answers.
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#1867 Posted : 11/16/2013 2:22:33 AM
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FourWinds appreciates your response, he thinks your right and will just go with 69 ron's extraction. He can't wait to try an extraction on acrb and see what happens.
 
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#1868 Posted : 11/16/2013 3:54:59 AM

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Good luck.
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#1869 Posted : 11/16/2013 10:50:46 AM
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To recrystallise bufotenine, would I just make a water bath and place the crystals in some ethyl acetone on top, filter and leave to evaporate? thanks
 
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#1870 Posted : 11/16/2013 5:16:27 PM

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Are you suggesting mixing the water bath with the acetone or using it to heat the acetone?

Mix your bufo with acetone, pour off acetone, and evap.
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#1871 Posted : 11/16/2013 10:26:49 PM
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using it to heat the acetone - ok thanks
 
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#1872 Posted : 11/17/2013 10:16:51 AM
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Oh so also do you know if this will help if the bufo xtals are in the alluring form of a brown oil-goo?
 
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#1873 Posted : 11/17/2013 3:00:16 PM

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If it reacts anything like n,n-, then a re-x will help no matter what form its in.
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#1874 Posted : 11/17/2013 3:05:01 PM

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Hello, travellers! Smile

Now i'm figuring out how to proceed with freeze precip using Cyb's hybrid salt tek

I have a few flat glass roasting dishes and i've got food cling wrap, but from what i read on the nexus, people are saying food cling wrap cannot seal pretty tight to the dish and it's likely to contaminate the freezer with NPL > the whole fridge. I want to avoid this at any rate.

So.. i see someone's been advised to use pint ball jars. In my country this thing is not commercially available so i have to think up of alternative

There are some glass canning jars with hermetic lid being sold. Can I use some of these for the freeze precip.

For instance like this one

http://i.dir.bg/new_market/addoffers/2012/01/04/10528.jpg

My concern with using jars for that is the significant difference in the surface/ layer thickness ratio as compared to when using flat glass dish? Will that change the precip at some point? Will it frustrate or prevent it?

Other thing that bothers me is scraping the spice off the jar's bottom > not as easy as with flat roasting dish
 
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#1875 Posted : 11/17/2013 3:20:54 PM

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Flat dish is best by far.
The depth of the solvent has little to do with the cool down and xtal formation.
Food wrap can sag if excess moisture is present...an elastic band can rectify this perfectly.
A lid, of any sort, only serves to stop any fumes from rising and contaminating any food stuffs present in the freezer. (ie. If there is no food...a lid is unessesary)
You can place any flat surface on top of the dish if a nice seal can be made.

Jars work but scraping completely is a pain and a half Wink
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#1876 Posted : 11/17/2013 3:25:18 PM

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Thanks, Cyb!

You're helpful as always! Best regards!
 
Du57mi73
#1877 Posted : 11/17/2013 3:33:11 PM

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Those jars are fine for fine for freeze precip. You will get a powdery spice, little full crystals. The problem of scrape the jars for the spice after is a problem. I end up putting a spoon to it and still have some in the jar and just reabsorb it into naptha for later pulls. Depending on how much oils are in your solvent it mostly will stay suspended in your solvent and can use a coffee filter to get most of your spice though. But I think its worth it to do it this way instead of contaminating everything.
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#1878 Posted : 11/18/2013 3:04:17 PM

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i have a question posted i another thread, if anyone could help i would greatly appreciate it


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#1879 Posted : 11/18/2013 4:35:41 PM

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update with pictures. this is what i have now after pulling. used vinegar, lime, and sunflower oil with q21q21's tek.


i have two jars here. is this salvageable? it's been sitting here for about a day now.
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#1880 Posted : 11/18/2013 7:47:45 PM

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What am I looking at in these pics?
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