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corto
#1 Posted : 11/13/2013 12:39:06 AM

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A close friend of mine is trying the Q21Q21 tek after having experimenting with Aya for a while. I'm documenting what he did out of excitement (it's not really informative, just go read the tek).

Ingredients:

- 100g shredded MHRB (Peruvian inner root bark, from a sustainable source, supposedly top top quality - had to wait ages for it), powdered in an electric coffee grinder. Some tiny tiny TINY almost transparent fibers remained, but most of it was nice and powdery.
- 75g pure calcium hydroxide. Had to order from abroad.
- 100ml 5% acetic acid. Only had 30% acetic acid, so it was diluted with 5 parts water to 1 part vinegar to yield 5%.
- 150ml just-sub-boiling water
- 133ml naptha (Ronsonol! - amazing that they sell it over here)

Utensils: No plastic - all stainless steel or glass.

- Stainless steel turkey baster with fine sucker/injector attachment (had to order from abroad ... they don't even eat turkey in this country!!!)
- Stainless steel potato masher
- Two thin stainless steel bowls, 1 fits inside the other
- Two small oblong pyrex containers with airtight lids
- Glass kettle
- Chopsticks and a stainless steel spoon

Pre-pull procedure:

1) Put MHRB in small steel bowl
2) Add 100ml 5% acetic acid gradually, stir until moist/clumpy
3) Add 150ml just-sub-boiling water, 'thick pea soup' texture, slides when bowl tilted
4) Wait 40 mins, stirring every few mins (used both chopsticks and spoon to stir - they seemed to have different effects)
5) Added 75g calcium hydroxide and mixed in VERY well. It took a while and was harder than expected. No red patches or white clumps remained. Top went dark when mixing stopped as described as 'normal' in the tek
6) Ended up with consistency 2, the moist-but-crumbly one which absorbs less naptha

My friend decided 'what the hell' and did a pull about 15 mins later. The tek author describes getting 10-35% in this type of quick pull. My friend will do more pulls at 24/48h and later using the same procedure.

1) Went into bathroom with all materials/utensils, shut door and open the windows (need ventilation)
2) Added boiling water to larger steel bowl, put smaller bowl in it - it floated and started to warm up very quickly
3) Added 133ml naptha to small bowl with MHRB in it and stirred every few mins (with both chopsticks and spoon) every few mins
4) Take small bowl out of big bowl and wipe bottom to avoid water drips
5) Use the masher to press the MHRB mix down into a solid mass, pretty much all the naptha rises to the top
6) Extract naptha by tipping bowl and using fine nozzle of turkey baster, being careful not to get any naptha in the rubber bulb
7) Put naptha in pyrex dish, seal up the top and stick in the freezer
8 ) Store the MHRB mix in another airtight pyrex dish and store at room temp until next pull

My friend can't wait to look in the freezer tomorrow morning. Smile

My friend's wife will be mad if the fridge/freezer starts to smell of naptha!
All posts are made on behalf of, or referring-to, a paranoid internet buddy who does not wish to post on this forum directly. He or she reads the forum and tells me what to respond. I sometimes paste his or her communications in verbatim to save time (and therefore these posts naturally use 'I', 'me' and so on). Other times I write as myself and refer to my buddy's exploits explicitly ('my friend', and so on). I do not know my buddy's real name or location, we met on another forum. I am basically a member of this site as a human proxy for an anonymous other.
 

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corto
#2 Posted : 11/13/2013 12:45:04 PM

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My friend waited 8h and then took the sealed pyrex container out of the freezer, and no fumes were detected in the fridge or the freezer.

The clear, unfrozen naptha was poured out into another sealed container for later re-use.

The pyrex container was turned upside down and left in a cool place for several hours.

Once the container no longer smelled like naptha, a razor blade was used to scrape the fluffy white stuff off into a plastic (dammit!) container.

The yield was 0.8g, which my friend finds startlingly high for a pull done straight after the mix was made.

The fluffy white stuff is very nearly pure white, had formed into 'snow/ice flakes' of various sizes (kind of) and has a waxy texture. If it is rubbed between two fingers it kind of smears. My friend had half expected dry crystal (and it looks like dry crystal from a distance), but he guesses that only happens if you salt it?

Question: Does the above description sound like proper DMT freebase? I.e. has the extraction gone well?


Confirmations or otherwise would be much appreciated! Smile
All posts are made on behalf of, or referring-to, a paranoid internet buddy who does not wish to post on this forum directly. He or she reads the forum and tells me what to respond. I sometimes paste his or her communications in verbatim to save time (and therefore these posts naturally use 'I', 'me' and so on). Other times I write as myself and refer to my buddy's exploits explicitly ('my friend', and so on). I do not know my buddy's real name or location, we met on another forum. I am basically a member of this site as a human proxy for an anonymous other.
 
corto
#3 Posted : 11/13/2013 9:16:44 PM

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I had confirmation from the nexus chat room (someone looked at the photo and talked to me about it) that what my friend has got is AOK.

Quote:
dmt is a crystal yes but its not hard
probably has a mohs hardness of less than 1
it smears if you press into it
even the best crystals i ever got could be rubbed into a streak if i wanted to


Yay! Smile Thanks on behalf of my friend to all Nexians for making it possible.
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#4 Posted : 11/13/2013 9:18:41 PM

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corto wrote:
My friend waited 8h and then took the sealed pyrex container out of the freezer, and no fumes were detected in the fridge or the freezer.

The clear, unfrozen naptha was poured out into another sealed container for later re-use.

The pyrex container was turned upside down and left in a cool place for several hours.

Once the container no longer smelled like naptha, a razor blade was used to scrape the fluffy white stuff off into a plastic (dammit!) container.

The yield was 0.8g, which my friend finds startlingly high for a pull done straight after the mix was made.

The fluffy white stuff is very nearly pure white, had formed into 'snow/ice flakes' of various sizes (kind of) and has a waxy texture. If it is rubbed between two fingers it kind of smears. My friend had half expected dry crystal (and it looks like dry crystal from a distance), but he guesses that only happens if you salt it?

Question: Does the above description sound like proper DMT freebase? I.e. has the extraction gone well?


Confirmations or otherwise would be much appreciated! Smile

PS in the below photo the weird bit in the middle is a sticker still stuck on the underside of the pyrex dish. My friend's finger included on the underside for scale.


Nice post Thumbs up I'm glad for you, lucky man.
 
corto
#5 Posted : 11/14/2013 8:22:47 AM

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Thanks LL. Smile

My friend says the result of the 2nd pull (done 12h after the first one) was 0.43g. So he now has a total of 1.23g from 2 pulls. The crystals were much smaller from this pull, but there were more of them.

My friend is ordering a GVG today! But he is tempted to fashion a temporary smoking device out of a mason jar and a large coke bottle (heat the spice through the glass bottom to fill the chamber). He has been advised to wait for the GVG, but my friend likes to experiment,

This MHRB is such good yield that he will probably order some more to last him a long time if necessary. He'll start making mimosahuasca with it as well, since the DMT percentage is high and will be known almost exactly. He might also move onto harmala extraction from the caapi sometime soon for a try with pharmahuasca.
All posts are made on behalf of, or referring-to, a paranoid internet buddy who does not wish to post on this forum directly. He or she reads the forum and tells me what to respond. I sometimes paste his or her communications in verbatim to save time (and therefore these posts naturally use 'I', 'me' and so on). Other times I write as myself and refer to my buddy's exploits explicitly ('my friend', and so on). I do not know my buddy's real name or location, we met on another forum. I am basically a member of this site as a human proxy for an anonymous other.
 
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#6 Posted : 11/14/2013 4:51:56 PM

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Later and later pulls will most likely result in a more yellow product. This is normal and for some, desirable. Pull until the work put in to pull outweighs the yield you are getting.

You can always test it by using an herb sandwich with DMT in between. Works just fine.
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corto
#7 Posted : 11/14/2013 10:36:12 PM

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Third pull was 0.22g, for a total of 1.45g. My friend will do another pull.

When the yield gets really low he'll leave the mush for a week until the next pull, to see what happens.
All posts are made on behalf of, or referring-to, a paranoid internet buddy who does not wish to post on this forum directly. He or she reads the forum and tells me what to respond. I sometimes paste his or her communications in verbatim to save time (and therefore these posts naturally use 'I', 'me' and so on). Other times I write as myself and refer to my buddy's exploits explicitly ('my friend', and so on). I do not know my buddy's real name or location, we met on another forum. I am basically a member of this site as a human proxy for an anonymous other.
 
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#8 Posted : 12/24/2013 10:23:43 PM

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I did another pull a LOT later and got another .2g (IIRC) - I left it at that.

Not quite sure how to dispose of the barkmush. It's surely not good to put it in the garden/sink/toilet/ground or whatever.

My first hit of this DMT was reported here, using a Machine.

I continued with the Machine for a while (no breakthroughs) then switched to a GVG and had a breakthrough. Followed some time later by a very unpleasant physical experience.
All posts are made on behalf of, or referring-to, a paranoid internet buddy who does not wish to post on this forum directly. He or she reads the forum and tells me what to respond. I sometimes paste his or her communications in verbatim to save time (and therefore these posts naturally use 'I', 'me' and so on). Other times I write as myself and refer to my buddy's exploits explicitly ('my friend', and so on). I do not know my buddy's real name or location, we met on another forum. I am basically a member of this site as a human proxy for an anonymous other.
 
corto
#9 Posted : 12/24/2013 10:45:30 PM

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Since I'm concerned about the purity of the freebase (see bad experience link above), I did a re-x on .2g (not everything, in case it went horribly wrong!) to see what would happen. I read about re-xing and despite it seeming quite complicated in cases, I surmised it to be basically re-dissolving in warm naptha, then siphoning off the clear naptha. So here's what I did:

1) Boiling water into a bowl
2) Shot glass into the bowl
3) .2g DMT into the shot glass
4) Add fresh naptha slowly (glass pipette) until dissolved (which was quick), stirring occasionally
5) Take naptha out of bath and draw off the clean stuff using a steel turkey baster with needle-nose attachment, put in sealed jar, leave at room temp
6) Am left with thin layer of orange goo in shot glass

After an hour at room temp, the cleaned DMT is already forming relatively large flake clusters.

Also, the shot glass goo is clearly showing a very thin layer of tiny white crystals in there. So I am losing some DMT in that re-x. Will weigh and report when done.
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#10 Posted : 1/11/2014 8:23:59 AM

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Very well done corto , very pleasent read , it all sounds that it went well and I'm sure that's how extraction's should go if done correctly !! Thumbs up
 
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#11 Posted : 8/28/2016 4:58:45 PM
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Thumbs up Well done corto! Thank you for sharing.
 
 
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