Hello,

In August I smoked 50mg dmt and had an EXTREMELY bad trip. After I let out the smoke I laid back, my entire body went numb and I closed my eyes to be greeted by indescribable geometry. and then soon I was being tugged from all directions and I heard hissing. Like someone wanted me to go with them. At this point I was scared shitless and I said 'no', whoever was trying to take me with them was extrememly disappointed and then I sprang up. The whole room was twirling and my whole body was orange and I could see through my friends skin. 2 minutes later I came down but I could barely feel my head on my shoulders.

About two weeks later I had the worst night of my life. I went to sleep as normal, nothing special. And then I noticed the ringing in my head that I had always had, was amplified to an extrememly loud and unbearable volume. I couldn't sleep. I tried sleeping through it, but I had EXTREMEMLY intense vibrations, like my consciousness was trying to exit my body. THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING EVERY NIGHT FOR ALMOST 3 MONTHS.

I've gone fucking insane. I don't know what to do. I want to stay in my body when I sleep. I refuse to let go and I just want to go back to being 'normal'. I do not believe in any negative energies at all, they do not impact my life in any way. I am an extrememly positive and peaceful person but I regret going beyond what the normal human should experience.

I can't go to sleep. There is a constant, extrememly high pitched ringing in my head that has always been there but has amplified 100x fold after DMT. It never goes away. It never reduces.

Some more information that might help you to understand what I'm going through - I have somehow always been able to draw a rush of energy up my spine and to my head for my whole life, since I was a kid. Doing this nowadays causes me to want to jump off a bridge.

Please help me...

I think someone more experienced with DMT would be better to inform you on whether this ongoing 'ringing' is caused by DMT, or by your psyche.

From the sound of your trip on DMT, as well as afterwards - you reject the present at times. Rejecting the present can lead to anxiety/looped fear/stress. Have you thought about 'letting go'? Embracing and observing the ringing? Not saying 'no' to energies/entities regardless of whether you deem them 'positive' or 'negative'.

You identify yourself as a 'positive' person. This means your ego identifies with one side of a coin, whilst trying to avoid/reject the other side. Positivity is transient and is not something you should try to hold onto.

Like I said, I have no experience with DMT - just other psychedelic trips. I've had quite a few bad trips. But I realise now it was because I was TRYING to attain something CONTROLLED and REJECTING anything that didn't fit the bill. In other words, my ego was taking over and causing me suffering.

Here's a great Lazy Yogi blog post on the idea of 'positivity' and trying to keep it: http://lazyyogi.org/post...of-positivity-and-purity

May I ask if the ringing is constant? Or does it only begin when you are trying to sleep?

The ringing is constant and loud, 24//7 without stopping. It is nearly impossible to sleep through..

I have observed it many times, it is amplified when I observe it. It makes things worse. It makes me feel alone and drives me to insanity.. And when I try to ignore it while I sleep, I am accompanied by intense vibrations

I thoroughly regret how I did not let go on my trip - but I have moved on from that trip. I no longer think about it or have any negative thoughts toward it. But the effects continue and have only gotten worse as time has passed.

I understand that DMT teaches to let go of the ego. But my concern now is why it seems to continue to drag me in, each and every single night, despite how I no longer think of it at all.

And the only reason I identify myself as positive is because I have a willingness to just be a normal person again instead of let this kill me, but it isn't working out at all

It sounds like you had a dis associative experience. I would refrain from drawing energy up your spine, since that's clearly disturbing to you in your current state. Find a way to relax yourself, your body+your mind, and thumb through this whole thread and see if there's any information which you find useful and applicable to your situation;

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=49235

Best of luck brother, time heals all wounds

also maybe this link can help reinforce a positive thought process while you work to re-integrate your experience and yourself back to normalcy;

http://www.lifetrainings...is-running-you-life.html

I had a friend experience something similar to this he was able to resolve it through a couple guided chakra opening sessions when he was able to open his last chakra (the third eye chakra) he had some fleeting but intense dmt visuals then afterwards he was back to normal.
His theory on what had happened was the chakra enemies got blocked while building and needed to be real eased he attributed this to being brought out of a trip before it had completely taken its proper course.

Hope that helps i know these things can be terrifying and sanity shattering

This is exactly what happened to me - I was brought out of a trip before it had taken its proper course. I desperately need to do what your friend did. I REALLY appreciate this post.

How should I go about doing what your friend did? I want to go back to normal as soon as possible. It truly is sanity shattering..

I am sorry to hear that you are suffering this all the time. Is it possible this has anything to do with a real physical condition? I know some people diagnosed with tinnitus. The good news is that there are ways to relieve it.


Don't regret it, it's what it is and it was just the trip you needed (as it was the trip you had).


Perhaps the lesson of dissolving the ego is not yet finished. It is not something you can be 'dragged into'. Consciousness/awareness exists in you and in everything always. Your suffering is from identifying with the ego. Have you tried meditation or other forms of reconnecting with your Self?

Once again, I am really sorry for what you're going through. Hang in there, as brokenchild touched on, time DOES heal all wounds.

this is very unfortunate, What I'd suggest is to trust in yourself and take the out of body journey. maybe, just maybe there is something that you need to know/experience in the out of body state that will help you resolve your issue.

I have a very fat book on astral projection and out of body state. I do remember reading something about what you are experiencing when you say you feel like your going to leave your body every time your go to bed. There is a name for this but I can't remember what it is. Ppl would be using up way too much of their energy and be experiencing some very shitty feelings.

anyway I will see if I can find more info about this and get back to ya...


reading over your post again, I've been talking about astral projection but it's not clear if you have heard about this or not....If you think dmt is interesting then your in for an even bigger surprise with this....this rabbit hole goes very very deep

It is definitely not tinnitus. The OBE sensation in my sleep proves otherwise.. I am starting to think that the other poster is right. A disrupted trip may have caused my chakras to get fucked up. I'm not sure if I believe this quite yet because I have no first hand proof of the existence of chakras - but I am willing to try everything to solve this.

Its hard to say exactly what it is or what one should do. People have had all sorts of strange things happen after a deep journey, which may have been hard to deal with at the time but in the end turned out fine- some even benefited. Some took quite a while to either adjust to their perceptions or return to 'normal'. In any case I think you will be fine in time.

Have you been doing anything to try and center or ground yourself? Some key things that work for me are good food, plenty of water, time in nature, *YOGA*, meditation, exercise and things of that sort. They sound simple, but put a few of those together and it can have a powerful effect. Maybe try exercising and then eating a big meal right before bed (along with melatonin), to help with the uncomfortable energy and put your mind and body at ease so you can sleep.

Anything to get your mind off it helps to, since if your focusing on it then it will just amplify whatever your experiencing, and increase your worry. Worry = stress, which just makes any situation worse and can have a tendency to snowball into a hard to escape loop. Also, are you certain your focusing on the ringing isn't just making it seem worse than it actually is? We all can probably hear a sort of background ringing when we focus on it. For someone with a more pronounced ringing (and you said it was there beforehand, no?) this might be a factor making your experience worse.

It might not bring you any comfort-and your situation might be very different- but it could help to know that after working with psychedelics many of us here go into these altered states, especially at night (which can include OBEs and ringing, at times). Some seem to be very sensitive and get access to that much quicker than others (even first timers). Others sought it willingly, while some were propelled there without effort (and anything in between. They can be uncomfortable if you resist it, but amazing once you learn to let go. Deep slow breathing can help...there is many exercises out there you could do. Not saying this is exactly the case with you, since I don't know.

If it doesn't get better i'd think about seeing a doctor. It did start happening 2 weeks after the dmt, after all. So maybe they could lend insight into whats going on. I wouldn't personally bet on it but there is a chance it could be something totally unrelated, and if thats the case it'd be good to play it safe and eliminate any health issues from being the cause.

stay positive <3

you're sense of external hearing is reduced

while your sense of internal hearing has greatly increased ,

don't focus on the ringing noise , focus on external sounds and pay attention to breath all the time, and do not think or talk to yourself !

read the thread Broken has mentioned https://www.dmt-nexus.me...spx?g=posts&t=49235, it has everything you will need ,

also don't smoke cannabis if you do , this greatly amplifies the whole thing

I deeply appreciate the advice man.. I honestly do hope, that time will heal this wound. It's been 3 months of ongoing hell, but I look towards the day where this is no longer my worst fear.

I certainly was propelled into this state. It is definitely an after effect of DMT, most likely having to do with my chakras being completely screwed up by that interrupted trip.

I will definitely start exercising and doing all I can to calm myself. But once I get in bed, practically nothing exists but that extremely loud ringing..



I don't have access to that thread, but I really want to read it. Yes, I have quit cannabis ever since this has begun for me. If you are correct and my hearing has shifted more internal than external, what may I do to turn it the other way around? I have already begun focusing on my breathing and will continue to do so. It will take a great amount of focus.

I like you

Now, back to the topic. I have experience with a analogous (vaguely) situation, so I may be of help. Let me give you the background info briefly: I had a bad trip on mush were my vision would zoom in an out very quickly in quantum leaps. A couple months later, were I had taken no drugs during this interval, I noticed I could do it on will (but less intense) i.e zoom people in or out like my eyes were cameras. This is sort off like your spine thing I guess. I taught my capability to do it with my will was like a super power so I abused it (was young back then). On top of that what I taught was really cool was that my pupils would become very dilated at the same time I commanded the zoom. Thing is all of it got out of control for 2 weeks : I would wake up and have flashes everyones a while, go to sleep with them. All this really perturbed me and was getting depressive. I would almost always think about it because I feared being in this state forever. When I stopped thinking about it, however, It gradually went away. So my recommendation is to keep your mind busy: go jogging, do sports, read, what ever works for you. You need to let go... Ego is a bitch (sorry for the language), it's the source of all your problems... IMHO

Take care, I hope you get well soon.

to turn it around just focus on external sounds , music is extremely good practice and the perfect tool for meditation

also while out in public where you cant bring music , listen to the traffic noises , crows and other birds and all sort of sounds that our environment generates

when interacting with human beings , only hear them don't try to understand what they say , try hearing language as sound , understanding will come naturally without any need to think on your part

also i can't access the thread right now for some reason , it has much info that i've written too about this technique , sound meditation is the kind of meditation that can be practised all the time , even while crossing the road or sitting in subway or traveling in the bus

edit : i am trying to find the correct link for that thread , click on the link provided in broken child's post , it works

or copy/paste this on your address bar - https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=49235

also pay attention to breath and external sounds at the same time for greater results than any technique alone ,

Had something similar happen to me at the beginning of last year
after a breakthrough on a similar dose.



This helped me to go to sleep, or at least "rest" well.
I had SERIOUS issues getting to sleep after the breakthrough
where anytime REM was about to kick in my body would spasm out,
muscles would kick me out of sleep like a panic.
After a while this tune worked it's magic and sleep
returned to normal. Put headphones on, don't drink or smoke
weed. Relax.

It may bring out that ringing tone in your head but you're going to have to accept it
for it to go away - it will tune itself to that tone. Accept it and let go.
At least it worked for me in a simliar situation.
Eventually it went away and occasionally returns in sleep but not nearly
as powerful as it was after the breakthrough.

My head will never return to normal but I am very happy about this

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And this.

Whenever I've spiralled into really dark places in my psyche it was fuelled by fear of fear itself. Know that fighting the ringing may be propelling it. Having said this, I know it's difficult to snap out of. Sometimes this knowledge of fighting fear = fear can actually still translate into fighting the fighting of fear. I call this 'looping'. I had a particularly intense case on my last psychedelic trip.

As I said before, and as some others have touched on, reconnecting with the Self as well as your physical body (not mind) can help. Try meditation and some form of exercise.

I love all these different solutions everyone is coming up with! I guess you have a lot to try out, Zorai If the chakras thing makes the most sense to you, I would go with that. Listen to your Self.

Regardless of what you or anyone else may or may not think it is. GOTO THE Doctor.

Unless you can't for some financial reason or whatever at least get some tests done. The ringing may have nothing to do with your dmt use. Even if it does why wouldn't you at least seek professional help.

I wouldn't bring up the words dmt, insanity, psychedelics, ect. Just say you have this real intense ringing in your ear that got so loud you can't sleep. You want to find out what it is you may as well exhaust all resources.

My friend and previous neighbour luckily knew a reiki healer she went through some reiki and a chakra opening meditation with him when he was able open all of his chakras he was able to release the pent up energy that from what i understand was stuck nside trying to get out.
I hope this helps

sincerely; dmusicaltranciistor

I totally agree with liistening to music while your trying to go to sleep as well that always helps me as find when trying to go to sleep n a quiet room i tend to hear every little nose amplified 100 times

Heres one of my favourite mixes to go to sleep to really chill good vibes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW1TJ5dvmik

i hvae no idea about the ringing in your head, as said before you might want to consider going to the doctor, thats what they are there for. Intergration can be very difficult, meditation and reflection are most likely your best tools.

on another note, you might want to clean up the language a bit, curse words are frowned upon here at the nexus