Hey guys.
I'm planning on making an ayahuasca soon. The ingredients I have are MHRB and Peganum Harmala seeds.
Now, I'm planning to do a THP extraxtion for Mimosa.
However I don't know what should I do with the seeds.
There are many extraction teks out there, but what would you consider me to do?

I don't think I wan't to freebase the alkaloids, so I'm thinking to just grind the seeds and boil them in acidified water (3 times 1 hour), and filtering it well and drink it.

Would that be sufficient?

I will be doing this for me and a friend. I'm intending to use 3g of mimosa and 2g of seeds for 1 dose, so 6g of mimosa and 4g of seeds alltogether. Do you recommend I should extract from bigger amounts of mimosa/seeds, and save the extract for later? Or should be 6g/4g be sufficient for a nice extraction?

THANKS!

In my experience, it is very hard to get a full rue extraction to be pure enough to dose accurately (at least if it's your first time). I would stick with the rue tea, 3x 1 hour is probably overkill. I have done a 20-minute boil in the past with excellent results. You also might want to consider upping it to 3g of seeds, 2g is maybe not enough to get MAO inhibition, and this is critical.

For the future, I would consider doing a full rue extraction (using Tao of Rue) on a larger quantity (at least 100g), because this will allow you to accurately more accurately dose. Make sure you manske before basing (contrary to the tek), because if you base first, a large quantity of other (dark brown) unwanted alkaloids precipitate, making it really hard to separate the stuff you want.

I would recommend inverting that and using 3 grams of rue and 2 grams of mimosa as a good starting place. Also, I would brew up 2 doses per person just in case you misfire or find you want to go a little deeper.

boiling syrian rue seeds has yet to fail me. doesn't take very long to boil up, and when reduced to a few tablespoons doesn't taste as bad as i was lead to believe. the one time it did taste almost unbearable was when i added vinegar to the brew. couldn't tell a difference with the effects but the taste was what i imagine vomiting pennies would taste like.


as mentioned earlier, i would try 3grams of rue seeds for each person.

While 2g is definitely enough for a powerful 4-6 hour experience for some people, others require 3g or more - so if experimenting with rue alone beforehand is out of the question to see how much it takes you to get effects indicating full(ish) MAO inhibition, I'd suggest at least 2.5g, and probably 3g like others have recommended.

As for boiling, 3 one-hour boils is more than necessary, but I also wouldn't go with just one 20 minute boil. I've found that no matter how long you do your initial boil for, a decent amount will always come out in a second boil. The 3rd boil produces quite a bit less IME, but still worthwhile to me.

One more thing - grinding the seeds isn't necessary and can make the filtering process extremely difficult. The alkaloids come out just fine from whole seeds. You can just pour the pot with rue seeds/tea through a metal mesh strainer and then add the seeds back to the pot with fresh water.

Edit to add: Three boils of 10-15 minutes each should work very well.

Thank you everyone for your kind answers. I'm planning to grind seeds and put them in tea bags, so I won't have any problems with filtering, and I guess I'll start with 3g of seeds per person.
I'm much more confident in doing this now. Thank you again