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laughingcat
#1 Posted : 11/3/2013 1:22:09 PM

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As promised, for those interested, my DMT paper is now published and available for download from JSE (if you are a subscriber)... I've also attached it here... I always welcome comments..... enjoy...
 

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#2 Posted : 11/3/2013 1:38:56 PM
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Excellent, thank you! I've been looking forward to reading this.
 
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#3 Posted : 11/3/2013 1:43:29 PM

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No worries - hope you enjoy it!
 
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#4 Posted : 11/3/2013 1:58:13 PM

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The abstract sounds very prommising, thank you for the read Smile
 
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#5 Posted : 11/7/2013 9:41:34 AM

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thanks cool paper

have read half of it and will comment once finished



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#6 Posted : 11/7/2013 10:04:50 AM

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Only read a few pages but so far it's fantastic, great work. Thanks for sharing laughing cat Thumbs up
 
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#7 Posted : 11/7/2013 6:42:40 PM

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Great - looking forward to your reviews/comments! Big grin
 
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#8 Posted : 11/7/2013 7:14:53 PM

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Excellent work , I really resonate with your approach
And concepts .
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#9 Posted : 11/7/2013 7:53:35 PM

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Excellent work! Smile

You have certainly made some tricky 'neuroscience' concepts accessible, and your hypothesis seems to fit the 'neurophysiological' correlates.

I think this is an important piece of work, which should be pondered on by better minds than mine.

This thing that unites us is important stuff ,IMO, and without efforts like those of laughingcat, the current unfulfilling paradigms will not be dropped.

I hope this comes to the attention of the accredited names in the field, and I would love to hear their thoughts and critiques.

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#10 Posted : 11/7/2013 8:16:29 PM

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Thanks shipmate! I'm pleased you found it interesting and got the message - there's at least a couple of years work in that paper. As I made clear in the paper, I agree with you that this molecule is extremely important and needs to be treated as such by all scientific and philosophical minds - I don't think we have a more important gift than DMT and I feel it's almost a duty to try and understand what it means... I hope to be but a small part of that process...
 
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#11 Posted : 11/8/2013 11:23:02 AM

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I'm still reading the paper and loving it up until now. Wanted to share my first thought as to reading this sentence in the paper:

This suggests that extrinsic sensory data somehow shaped
the thalamocortical system, i.e. that the brain used sensory data from the
external world to learn to build a representation of it.


This instantly reminded me to the way shamans answer to where they got their information to combine the ingredients for the ayahuasca brew. It seems like a mindfuck (pardon the word) and here I found it again in the paper. I'm not saying it means anything, but just wanted to point out the irony.
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#12 Posted : 11/8/2013 5:14:56 PM

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Just five pages in, but I think this is fantastic. Thank you so much for taking the time and for being such a stellar representative.
 
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#13 Posted : 11/8/2013 5:57:37 PM

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This paper is amazing. You make a very strong case. Even my eternal skeptical husband, Nemo Amicus, was impressed and intrigued.

I am curious . . . how is this paper being received? In particular by the non-psychonautical communities?

Thanks for this amazing piece of work. Clearly this is not something that was done on a whim or in a short amount of time. This is a huge project and very well done. What a wonderful addition to the Nexus and research in general.
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#14 Posted : 11/8/2013 6:38:47 PM

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Thanks so much for all of your positive comments. I wrote the paper in my spare time and it took about 2 years to research and write, so yes quite a major project (I am a computational biologist by day, but working on other topics unrelated to DMT) - however, this is kind of my calling (I think about little else), so it was a labour of love... it has only been published for less than a week, so it is still early days, but the response so far has been entirely positive...
 
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#15 Posted : 11/8/2013 8:47:54 PM

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Exceptional, thank you for sharing this with us.

This paper should be in the list of mandatory reads for anyone wanting to make progress in understanding what's behind DMT. It really helped me close the circle after seeing your presentation in London last july.

I look forward to read the paper again thoroughly, and specially to keep your ideas close the next times I partake. Hyperspace cartography has a lot of potential for exploring your suggestions, also when using related substances like 5-Meo, psilocin, bufotenin or even NMT.

Fascinating times ahead.
 
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#16 Posted : 11/8/2013 9:43:25 PM

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Wow, thank you for sharing this! I've only read the abstract and skimmed for content of personal interest, but this will definitely be good bedtime reading for me. I'm happy to see this type of theoretical work make it to publication. Thanks again for sharing this here.

Kindest regards to you.
 
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#17 Posted : 11/9/2013 9:28:15 AM

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Amazed by this. To already able to make a reasonable case that cannot easily be dismissed for DMT being a very special molecule at this juncture is impressive. The case presented is also fun for making wild conjectures. I've been thinking about our atavistic DMT cycle as being our debugging mode for an advance civilization that created us to fix us up and that we don't experience it anymore because we're no longer in beta version Wink
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#18 Posted : 11/9/2013 9:38:57 AM

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Well, I have the feeling that it will the craziest ideas that eventually turn out to be the closest to the truth... we ain't seen nothin' yet...
 
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#19 Posted : 11/9/2013 1:47:23 PM

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just for your information, the journal where this paper is published is a fringe science journal.
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wikipedia: The Journal of Scientific Exploration is a quarterly peer-reviewed[1][2] academic journal of fringe science


also i cant seem find a impact factor or journal ranking?

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#20 Posted : 11/9/2013 2:59:03 PM

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What's your point? Well of course it's a fringe science journal! This is hardly mainstream science is it?. "The Journal of Scientific Exploration publishes material consistent with the Society’s mission: to provide a professional forum for critical discussion of topics that are for various reasons ignored or studied inadequately within mainstream science, and to promote improved understanding of social and intellectual factors that limit the scope of scientific inquiry." Is this a good thing or not?
 
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