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So, in attempt to make changa, I managed to acquire what I thought was pure acetone (it was marketing as such), however, a closer inspection of the label reveals that it also contains Denatonium Benzoate (also called Bitrex). There's not a whole lot out there about it that I can find. Does it evaporate like acetone, or will this make my changa unsmokable? Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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anything with -ate suffix is a salt. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." ~ hassan i sabbah
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Bitrex is also used for denaturating ethanol...I'd stay avay from it... My avatar was taken from google images and is actually a work of art by NEIL GIBSON, credit where credit is due! Bodies don't have souls - souls have bodies Old enough to know better, young enough to try again
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http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9923674Denatonium benzoate MSDS Toxicological Data on Ingredients: Denatonium benzoate: ORAL (LD50): Acute: 584 mg/kg [Rat]. Potential Chronic Health Effects: Very hazardous in case of ingestion. Hazardous in case of eye contact (irritant), of inhalation. Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant). CARCINOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. MUTAGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. TERATOGENIC EFFECTS: Not available. DEVELOPMENTAL TOXICITY: Not available. The substance is toxic to lungs, mucous membranes. Repeated or prolonged exposure to the substance can produce target organs damage.
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Aaaargh. aoiwyet;aeiohf;oaieqyhoiweahiogaghioawoi23 Thanks, guys ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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So what actually is hazardous about it if it isn't carcinogenic, mutagenic, teratogenic, or developmentally toxic? Is it just irritating? Lol "I am cursed by the blossoming knowledge of my feminine ideal and she looks suspiciously like you."
"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." -AE
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As it's the most bitter substance known (hence its use to deter anyone from drinking it - such as curious children), I'm pretty damn sure that any residue in your changa is gonna make it extremely unpalatable and difficult to smoke, if nothing else 
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There is definitely little you can do with the bitrex in your acetone - if you evaporate acetone you will find bitrex residue - may or it may not harm changa taste and may or it may not be dangerous to smoke/burn it. Why take any risks? Just find something else and with no bitrex. Need to calculate between salts and freebases? Click here! Need to calculate freebase or salt percentage at a given pH? Click here!
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