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thecrystalkid
#21 Posted : 10/31/2013 9:51:57 PM

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hug46 wrote:
Why do we need to preserve the seed?
I am not sure that the youtube link that you posted actually encourages me to preserve my seed. I think the character in the clip that keeps alluding to his precious bodily fluids is a complete nutter.


hi hug46, if i may say, he is acting; and i shared the clip more for comedic reasons than serious but i'm happy to be the latter.

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In the case of sperm production, (and maybe our spiritual essence could be linked to the accumulation of sperm in our testes), i have found that the more i do the sex thing, the more product i make, at a faster rate. So if more seed ejecting takes place maybe more spiritual energy is made. If we are not supposed to expend our essence, what the hell are supposed to do with it??


may i ask how you know you make more? it maybe so but the act of creation maybe a strenuous one. also one might, respectfully, think that you would have to preserve seed to be able to compare against not preserving. i wouldn't say that you are, or are not, supposed to expend your essence but suggecting what i think might be involved if you do. as for what you do with it, i believe your body will transmute that base motor energy into higher forms of energy consciousness, like compassion, logic etc

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Where do women come into this scenario? It would be interesting to get a female take on seed production and its relation to mental, physical and spiritual well being. (apologies if any of the previous posters were female, i usually assume everyone is a man unless otherwise stated. I can"t help it. I am a man and revert to type when reading the experiences of others).


i believe its harder for a female to lose sexual energy, so i read. they are generally less consumed with money and survival and more with love i find. umm i have heard of women with fatigue syndromes who say they are depleted by orgasm.

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It concerns me that i find a correlation between preserving seeds and religious sexual repression. My opinions are probably coloured by my occasionally dysfunctional upbringing (but no intense religion indoctrination was involved..... thank christ!).



same as thankfully, christ-wise. as for repression i don't feel it is so, and what of over-expression? what i'm suggesting is a basic tenet of male tantra and i don't think tantric sex and sexual repression are bedfellows. no-one is suggesting no sex, quite the contrary.

i have a post from another forum that goes more in to depth with all this, plus serious vids, ill post if interested as i didn't want to swamp the thread. also have one chinese study that shows that serum testosterone (and one could be forgiven for thinking that the other hormones would also be samely affected) takes 7 days following ejaculation to return to its normal levels. nice to discuss this without being scoffed at, makes a change.

try before you buy, the dag's nads!

Cazman043 wrote:

I reckon you're right. Not everyone is effected by this, but in my trip i pretty much felt what you are saying right now. As if i am busting a nut too often and so i am having sexual visuals, but they aren't all pleasant as i am overdoing the sexual activity. My GF and i have spoken about it and decided to cut the sex down to once a week, instead of once a day for a bit, then maybe do it twice a week once i feel i'm completely free of sex addiction (if that be the case) or overthinking about sex. Thanks for that, its funny how people give their advice and it correlates to your dmt experience.


cool if it ties in with yourself. just to be clear here though, its ejaculation that it's suggested should be cut back on, not sexual activity; although you may find that preserving leads to less sexual desire and so less sex. for this to show its potential to you i feel requires that there be no ejacul;ation for at least a month. i genuinely think that it will be like meeting yourself for the first time.



as i see it, the base chakra fills like a bucket then flows over into the navel, which also then fills, improving digestion etc, then upwards to the solar plexus and heart for more compassion, throat for better comms ands brow for mewntal acuity. base chakra is earth (matter/metal), navel water (cooling), solar plexus fire (forge), heart & lungs is air wind (bellows)...like an alchemical blacksmith. enlightenment, in the physical sense has been described as sex energy inverted. so instead of orgasming out of the body it flows inwards and upwards till you feel orgasmic. its everything and youre less without, imo.

apparently berlesconi preserves whilst on the campaign path. stronger arms and legs come first (ask a boxer; tyson preserved for his best years, not that i wish to emulate the man)

ive heard sexual abstinence recommended before taking aya many times over, i see no reason why it shouldn't apply to smoking dmt too. on aya ive often noticed it goes to my gonads to see what energy it has to play with. ive heard 3 days, 5 days and 7. id go for 7 even before vaping (yet to). thats ejaculating, dunno about physical sex. id avoid that on the day probably
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#22 Posted : 10/31/2013 11:58:42 PM

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cazman your post amuzed me. you have a way with words. it really turned me on. i have a big boner for twisty fractals raping me.

seriously though, i wouldnt worry about it. i think the things we see in trips are largely reflections of whats going on in our heads. you see sexual stuff likely bc you have sex on the brain. that is not something to be worried about. dont make sex in to an enemy. perhaps that is why you are terrorized by fractal rape. your evasion of the feelings which are already there causes you to feel as if those thoughts are clinging to you, forcing themselves on you.
 
#23 Posted : 11/1/2013 12:37:01 AM
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Cazman043 wrote:
Hi guys, i have been experimenting with dmt a fair bit lately, and almost every trip seems to feel sexual. By that i mean the fractals feel sexual, the beings feel sexual, everything looks sexual and i just feel uncomfortable during the experience. I do surrender, i let the experience occur, but i am left questioning my experience asking "why is it sexual?"

An example of this was my changa experience today, i had a cone, and it began with fractals, but then it turned sexual, the fractals began to curl and twist with me, and they felt like they were moulding to me in a very sexual way. These movements then began to morph into several persons/beings, who were also grinding on me and what not, i'm not too sure who it was, but if i began to question the experience they'd get quite angry/offended, i wasn't scared at all, just left asking why is it like this? So i maintained the surrendering to the trip that i had begun with, and then when i started to come out of it, i started to speak out loud demanding all negative energies and thoughts to remove themselves from me. I dunno, it just didn't feel right? It felt like it was a sexual lust, rather than an embracement of compassion, love and beauty.

So pretty much, i wonder why are my dmt trips sexual? Could it be negative energies attempting to make me surrender to sexual desires? Is it me and my own sexual desires? Are these trips negative, as they seem to be very different to other people's experiences and they feel more sexually pleasurable (like lust) rather than love induced.
I am accepting the experience itself, but i'd still like to hear people's opinions, maybe it is my ego and its obsession with sexual pleasure. How can i avoid having a sexually related dmt trip, i read that in Ayahuasca ceremonies the individual shouldn't endeavour in any sexual pleasure for at least a week. Maybe its that?

Anyways, i'd love to hear some opinions, thoughts and whatever you guys have to say. Thanks for reading this, it has left me with a bit of confusion. Namaste Smile


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hug46
#24 Posted : 11/1/2013 8:32:52 AM

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thecrystalkid wrote:


may i ask how you know you make more?


I do not not know how i make more. But more product generally comes out. Whether it contains any of the good stuff, i really cannot say.

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i have a post from another forum that goes more in to depth with all this, plus serious vids, ill post if interested as i didn't want to swamp the thread. also have one chinese study that shows that serum testosterone (and one could be forgiven for thinking that the other hormones would also be samely affected) takes 7 days following ejaculation to return to its normal levels. nice to discuss this without being scoffed at, makes a change.


Post away, always nice to see another point of view and there is nothing wrong with a good thread swamping every once in a while. I suppose another concern of mine is that if you get a new partner and are at it like rabbits while in the honeymoon period, is it unhealthy? Because it sure doesn"t feel like it.

With all this sex talk i"m sure i am going to get gang raped by entities the next time i trip.
 
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#25 Posted : 11/1/2013 11:57:58 AM

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hug46 wrote:

I do not not know how i make more. But more product generally comes out. Whether it contains any of the good stuff, i really cannot say.


did you know that everything that is ejaculated does not come from your testes? in case you didn't and anyone's interested, and i only found this out whilst discussing elsewheres; men who have vasectomies still ejaculate. the majority of ejaculant is made near the base of the member, i think. only spermatosa are manufactured in the testes, the rest i believe is carbs and extra substance to enable the sperm to be shot. the substance that sperm is shot with may be more readily replaced but then maybe you'll have a lower count and maybe the won't be as powerfull as they could've been.. plus all the other losses ive suggested. once you've abstained, its my feeling that you would come to guard your essence as a precursor to increased vigor, and so then to expend it would be illogical.

on a general health note, i have a study somewhere, might not be able to locate, that shows that 100% cotton underwear for men may increase sperm count by a half. polyester, i think, changes the skins electrical charge or something.

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Post away, always nice to see another point of view and there is nothing wrong with a good thread swamping every once in a while. I suppose another concern of mine is that if you get a new partner and are at it like rabbits while in the honeymoon period, is it unhealthy? Because it sure doesn"t feel like it.

With all this sex talk i"m sure i am going to get gang raped by entities the next time i trip.


as for honeymoons, or any other time, its not for me to say. what i am trying to do is enabled an informed decision from how i believe it may be.. it may have been better sex whilst not ejaculating and its possible, apparently, to have dry ejaculations, though i'm unsure whether thats a good thing. tantric abstinence is supposed to provide for a more heartfelt and cerebral experience. i hope you don't get raped, but i'm wondering if this rape isn't a personification of the mind raping the body of it's power? (if its even doing that) doubtfull, but it maybe one reason, or presupposing factor. either or, some abstinence is generally recommended with brews so may follow for smoking dmt...expereiment maybe..

is it possible for us to sexually abuse our own bodies? just a thought.

i'll post it verbatim though some may not be relevant. it might be a mish mash of a 2-3 posts. if anything is stated as fact then it's actually conjecture.


here's an interesting view i thought:: http://www.yourbrainonpo...com/book/export/html/128

""The doctor explained that glands are not muscles, and do not need exercise. Glands secrete fluids all on their own (e.g., wet dreams), and manual intervention is simply not needed. Therefore, if a man cares to take a time-out, he can rest assured that his body will meet his ejaculation needs (if any) without his intervention. The forum member added:

Since I have not had a wet dream for a decade or more (always masturbated) I asked the doctor, "What if I don't have a wet dream?" His reply was, "Well then, you no longer need to ejaculate.""

this study seems to suggest less ejaculation is helpfull especially at lower ages:: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12887469

i thought this was a balanced and interesting view... http://www.reuniting.inf...ow_often_for_good_health

Interestingly, men who cut back often remark on changes: more energy, better concentration, interacting with potential mates more easily, greater gains from workouts, stronger erections, healthy dietary changes, return to earlier sexual tastes, more optimism, seeing women differently—even deeper voices. As with other aspects of life, it seems that finding a middle ground pays. Yet when it comes to ejaculation, few people are talking about what might constitute a healthy middle ground.

a healthy discussion i thought:: http://www.reuniting.info/node/726

two vids with with another perspective
How to preserve your sexual energy - Tantric sex - Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=remrOQhPWX0
How to preserve your sexual energy - Tantric sex - Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9KzYdLWS2w

another perspective:

Taoist Sexual Kung-Fu for Increasing Testosterone Levels ~ How To Stop Leaking Jing Essence #233 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjSHcEJOaY

(copied) HERE'S THE STUDY ON TESTOSTERONE LEVELS IN MEN POST EJACULATION:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih....d/12659241?dopt=Abstract

none of this is presented as fact, from my point of view, in regards to other people. it feels factual to me, physically speaking. all this might not be relevant to the thread title. take what you like, if any, and disregard the rest, all the best.

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#26 Posted : 11/1/2013 2:40:23 PM

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Cazman043 wrote:

I reckon you're right. Not everyone is effected by this, but in my trip i pretty much felt what you are saying right now. As if i am busting a nut too often and so i am having sexual visuals, but they aren't all pleasant as i am overdoing the sexual activity. My GF and i have spoken about it and decided to cut the sex down to once a week, instead of once a day for a bit, then maybe do it twice a week once i feel i'm completely free of sex addiction (if that be the case) or overthinking about sex. Thanks for that, its funny how people give their advice and it correlates to your dmt experience.


hey bro you don't need to stop having sex or reduce your sexual activity just because you don't want to think about it

learn how to meditate , concentrate on sounds , pay attention to breath

infact when you reach higher levels of concentration , you can have sex at the same time have a clear mind , infact men who are thinking about sex while having it ejaculate faster

generally when i have sex , i listen to music and coo-ordinate with the music , i even forget that i am a man having sex with a woman , i just give in to the union without thinking anything about sex or anything , this helps me go on much longer

you can not think about sex while having sex itself Twisted Evil

you don't need to think about driving while you drive a car , just drive the car

to not think about sex , dont reduce sexual activity , as this will make you think more rather then less , learn how to meditate properly and then meditate while having sex , this is tantric union

i also don't believe in seminal retention or preserving the seed , i had been celibate for a year just a 2 years back , was'nt really that helpful and it makes you think more about sex rather then less , i only speak from experience

also while tripping on DMT just pay attention to breath , listen to music or practice deep breathing to get rid of all thoughts

free you mind , dont stop having sex , stop thinking about it

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#27 Posted : 11/1/2013 9:53:19 PM

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Many aspects of this thread are extensively covered here:
http://www.youtube.com/w...nAIajo&feature=share
 
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#28 Posted : 3/20/2015 2:02:10 PM

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I once had a thousand years of nude sexual imagery downloaded into my brain in a mere 3 minutes, was fried for a while afterward...strange!
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
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#29 Posted : 3/20/2015 10:41:39 PM

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DisEmboDied wrote:
I once had a thousand years of nude sexual imagery downloaded into my brain in a mere 3 minutes, was fried for a while afterward...strange!

Beats googling Twisted Evil
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#30 Posted : 3/20/2015 11:26:39 PM

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#31 Posted : 3/20/2015 11:46:25 PM

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Kerberos wrote:
The subject of sexual visions is covered in

"The Psychedelic Experience

A manual based on the Tibetan Book of the Dead

By Timothy Leary, Ph.D., Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., & Richard Alpert, Ph.D."




So happy to see someone on the nexus who knows of this book! It is a gem of a book & largely irreplaceable IMHO.

Nothing like a little Leary, Metzner & Alpert to deepen your psychedelic knowledge base.


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