Toluene pulls heaps, much more than shellite.

You can also get d-limonene at art supply stores as citrus based brush cleaner as I recall. It is expensive though, like $40 for 1 litre.

The problem with toluene is if you want something within a day you have to evaporate it using a fan (again takes a looong time without heat) or a hairdryer with heat meaning theres a good chance the heat and air will oxidise any DMT leaving DMT n-oxide. Toluene fumes are damaging to the health and smell strong however with adequate ventilation it should be ok.
However if you have the time and space to blow it out of a door/window with a normal fan where the fumes wont be a problem you will get everything.

m***e10 sell d-limonene at 22 dollars ( for 500ml , sc***ys citrus solvent. An expensive sub but a non toxic walk-into-store option for Aus and a tidier one than sunflower oil to use for salting out, obviously cant be used for freeze precip or evapping.

I discovered something very interesting when I visited my local bunnings yesterday. I've recently bought 500mL of D-limonene online for $22...however, found a citrus based solvent for $9.12 = 300mL on a bunnings shelf. I opened the lid and compared the smell to my pure d-limonene and I couldn't tell the difference!

http://www.bunnings.com....-spray-pack-916_p4460064

What do you guys think?

Had a look at the msds and it does have limonene in but also a surfactant. So its unsuitable..
Pure limonene isnt cheap, but no surprise considering the amount of fruit needed.

If you leave diggers acetone in the bottle too long it dissolves the plastic. I evaporated some after it being 3/4 weeks old and it left a thin layer of plastic exactly the same colour and texture as the bottle.

I buy toluene from Speed Auto shops, think it cost me ~60-70$ for a 20L barrel. Enough to last me quuiiiite a while

Indeed, and it has a much "sweeter" or "aromatic" hydrocarbon smell compared to Sceney's or Hateley's. Next on the list to have a look at is the "KCB" brand from Sup****eap.

Diggers Shellite isn't fantastic imo. I know myself and friends have had poor results.
I`d personally suggest doing 2 initially toluene pulls (this will get basically everything), evapping till crystals (they form sweet crop circle crystals ).
Then rextal is hot naptha (or equivalent that can be freeze-precip'd).
Works a treat for me, and saves the hassle of 6 pulls or something.
Re-xtal is way easier than a large number of pulls.

to each their own

I know what you mean haha, to use a quote from Seinfeld

Bania: You know Jerry, I was thinking. For our next meal, do you think we should come here ... or should we go someplace else? You know it has it's pros and cons. On the one hand, here, you're guaranteed a great meal. On the other hand-
Jerry: (annoyed) Yeah, yeah I know. This would be good, but it would be the same. But if we go some place else, it would be different, but it might not be as good. It's a gamble. I GET IT.

Just evap tested un#u glue r#mover that I bought a while ago and it leaves a residue, pretty sure its not a reaction with anything on the glass. Presumably the plastic from the bottle its in. Shame as it evaps very quickly.

Digg#$s she@$ite seems better but again leaves a white residual outer edge stain. Also came from a plastic bottle.
Second test was a bit better, washed the dish with sodium carbonate and water beforehand then rinsed it thoroughly and air dried, mopped the small streaks up with tissue paper. It still left a faint white residue.

Will test diggers iso next.

It was only a very feint residue and I have had the shellite for a long time for general household use which is why I assume its the inside egde of the bottle that has been dissolved.

Sce@#ys toluene also leaves a very feint residue but again this was an old can (but metal) and was at the end of it. Tests much earlier came out better.

I wouldnt be surprised if all the diggers napthas are from the same source just relabelled for targetting different consumers.

Im starting to think the cleanest way for Aussies ( as localy sourced fumaric acid isnt available here) is a double or triple acid base with thorough filtering and liquid reductions at the acid stage then either a water crystalization (if after just dmt) or a sodium carb and dry ipa freebase and extraction.
Timely and requires much work but should yeild a very clean non toxic end product.

Just did 2 test with zi@#o premium and both times evaporated without a trace will try undu again and give it more time to completely evaporate.
Edit: ok so undu this time left no trace maybe it was something from the tap water used to clean the dish that showed up.
With the weather so hot its a great time to test these products.

they also do a far better shellite than diggers which home hardware sell..

if your looking for good full spectrum go sceneys toluene or if crystals then sceneys shellite.. if your dealing with a large amount of alkaloids you could do initial pull with toluene, salt and pull with shellite if crystalisation is desired

Ok good to know. Yes I wander about the packaging too, a test on di@#$rs acetone done a while after purchase left a distinct plastic residue too and so far the solvents with metalic containers have as to be expected stood up to the test best.
Do you have a mitre10 where you are? They stock sc@$%s 100% toluene. Xylene is just too stinky and toxic for my paint thinning needs.

Any thoughts on the following -

Two pulls with shellite, one with xylene, mix the two together then salt out.

Would mixing the shellite and xylene cause an issue with the salting? As far as my thinking goes there should be no problems but a chemist might know more. Think I'll give this a shot next time.

I don't want to evap the xylene as this will result in dmt oxide in my climate.

The other option is to just extract with xylene and salt out. How many pulls would I need?

Thanks for any ideas on this.

You may as well pull with just xylene if you are going to salt out and if you are bothered about toxicity and or the environment then dlimonene will work just as good as will sunflower oil however it takes a while to settle and is messier and tricky getting the last layer if oil of the solution.
Amount used depends on volume of starting material maybe check the jimjam party tek for volumes.

Hey DreaMTripper,

Thanks you kindly for you response. I guess I'll pull with xylene then salt out. I'm thinking the xylene could be reused indefinitely which would reduce the impact to the environment. Salt is then rebasified and pulled with shellite for freeze precip.

Thanks again for your help.

Yeah if dmt is all youre after its a good way that would create minimal waste and a clean end product.

i don't see why combining the two solvents for salting would cause any issues...though if anyone has evidence of the contrary please correct me - i've heard its not good to combine solvents to pull alkaloids and can cause weird reactions - but i'd presume salting would act differently as the alkaloids would already be in each solvent and its unlikely that the two solvents mixing together would suddenly alter/degrade them (though with time maybe?)

although i don't use it often anymore, i've found with shellite that it pulls alkaloids more effectively when the alkaloids have been salted out and rebased in a new solution. for crystalisation salting and rebasing simplifies the solution that the solvent comes into contact with, and reduces it to basically water, acid and alkaloids ..

people should consider whats more worth it though - a nice looking product that lacks in other desirable alkaloids or a full spectrum product which doesn't look as nice physically, but (subjectively) is deeper in terms of the experience on offer.

at the end of the day dmt and friends are better for vaping than staring at in a vial.. after a deep experience I bet you'll hold your extract in the highest regards no matter how it looks.. though it is nice to have some pretty crystals sometimes. i'd at least advise pulling with a less selective like toluene or xylene and then re-acid/basing/pulling with shellite if you really need crystals. then you can pull whatever is left in the solution with the other solvent afterwards to experiment with and figure out whether you want it in the extract as a whole