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Posts: 1 Joined: 30-Oct-2013 Last visit: 30-Oct-2013 Location: UK
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Hello all forum users, nice to meet you all! After sitting back as a spectator of these forums I can honestly say I was so glad to see a forum without constant flaming of other members, without a aggressive argument on every topic and a community of users looking to genuinely help each other. Glad to be a part of it now.
Apologies if this has been placed in the wrong sub section.
Just looking for some answers and genuine opinions on whether or not DMT is even right for me at this moment.
I'll go ahead and tell you my story, I will be rambling on a bit but I just felt it could be necessary to give information about myself so that any of you experienced users being kind enough to help me out can answer my questions being informed and having a general jist of me and my life.
My intentions
I want to experiment with DMT within the forthcoming months, mainly for the spiritual experience and to hopefully learn a bit about myself if possible, seeking for an answer possibly?
About me
20 year old Male, just started University in September, having an amazing time (probably too much of a good time). Drug wise, I am a fairly regular Cannabis smoker, aside from that the only other "hard" (not sure whether that's a liked term here) drug I have taken is MDMA on a few occasions recently.
My worry about taking DMT
Ok, so now is where it gets a bit tricky for me in terms of my readiness to take DMT ...
So I suppose growing up, even until now I've always been a generically "popular" guy, attractive, Captain of the football team throughout school, always had a more active sex life than most guys my age (Really sorry if it sounds I'm being extremely arrogant, I'm just trying to paint the best picture for you of my life so far) ....
However, there always seems to be this great battle in my mind (Exaggerated when I've been smoking), that I'm not really who I am. As in my personality on the outside of being a sociable, confident guy etc is a front I put on.
At this moment in time as I'm typing I'm finding it really hard to actually get the words from my mind on to this page of what I'm trying to describe but it doesn't seem to be to reach this keyboard. Oh well not going quite as I planned when I first started, bit of a brain freeze!
So, back to the battle in my mind, I find when I'm smoking cannabis, about 80% of the time nowadays I will always have certain stages of going through this ongoing thought process, "Your not being who you truly are, Its all a front, start being yourself" and then goes further and I become anxious that people around me don't actually want to be in my company, I start having thoughts that a lot of the new friends I've met at university (flatmates etc) don't actually like me as a person, find me annoying and so on so forth I'm sure you get the picture.
But then the next day I wake up, sober. I will always remember my thought processes of the night before and dismiss them "you were ridiculous for thinking that, you were just high, overthinking things and panicking you are fine everyone loves you" bla bla bla ...
This is where it gets hard because I cannot decide if it truly is just the negative side effects of the Cannabis, or the Cannabis is unlocking my genuine worries that I would otherwise repress if sober.
And this is where DMT may be able to help me find out, or at least learn a bit more about myself, I feel like now I'm in a limbo not knowing what my true personality is, I do have a lot of insecurities that I never bring to the surface and my dilemma is that I'm not sure if DMT is going to help me find the truth, what if I do actually unlock all of my hidden thoughts and secrets of who I am but I don't like it or accept it.
My questions
I would say I am a genuinely happy and positive person with a stable mindset, however these issues have been bugging me about my experimentation of DMT, if I go into the trip being anxious about my subconscious thoughts, would this do more harm than good? Could it lead to a bad trip?
Another note, I haven't tried any psychedelics before and don't really have much of a perception of what a "trip" is like, will DMT be too intense for me? Would it be better to try LSD first?
When you took DMT did you feel you learnt about yourself? How has DMT affected your life (if at all) after you took it?
Any of you that take the time to answer any of my questions, please feel free to choose from any question I listed here, I'm not expecting anyone to just bulldoze it and answer all of them straight away. (I know there is a lot and its time consuming)
All advice/opinions is much appreciated. Thankyou, S.M
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Posts: 3135 Joined: 27-Mar-2012 Last visit: 10-Apr-2023
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Hello, welcome to the nexus! Alright, I'm going to attempt to tackle this for ya. Here we go... OK so your intentions are to possibly find some kind of answer. This is good. You need a starting point and as long as you aren't in the mind set that DMT WILL give these answers your A OK. Being in it for that and the spiritual experience is great. I believe this kind of mindset opens up before you the ability to learn hyperspace faster than say, someone who is taking it for the high and visuals. I can clearly see that this "popular guy" side of you is obviously this ego you have created, and I feel you are aware of this. You have already stated you don't think this is the real you and that it's a front. Yep you nailed it. Our ego tends to do that for us. I believe it is to protect us from certain insecurities we all have. Some ego's are stronger than others. This is DMT's specialty IMO (In My Opinion). It has the ability to see through you easily and some how it is able to display it for you in ways that explain the inner workings so well, that you see the bigger picture. SO ya, this is possible. Ahh, cannabis. This is exactly what it does for me. Now I am not completely sure as to what is going on but I feel that cannabis somehow brings our insecurities out into the open. As well as shows us certain qualities that we do not like about ourselves. Like how messy we can be or how we can be slightly reactive sometimes in conversation. I have found it more difficult trying to figure it out, so cannabis hasn't been the best help personally as far as my spiritual path goes. I still use it time to time. Sometimes it seems as though it is creating some sort of delusion but I believe it is based off something. Anyways... To answer some questions: Quote:I would say I am a genuinely happy and positive person with a stable mindset, however these issues have been bugging me about my experimentation of DMT, if I go into the trip being anxious about my subconscious thoughts, would this do more harm than good? Could it lead to a bad trip? I don't necessarily believe there are bad DMT trips. Just rough ones... and then really rough ones. Yes an anxious mind can increase the likely hood of having a rough trip. But there are several things people do to alleviate this and counter these very common issues we all have. Quote:Another note, I haven't tried any psychedelics before and don't really have much of a perception of what a "trip" is like, will DMT be too intense for me? Would it be better to try LSD first? DMT can be too intense for everyone. EVERYONE. So start low and experiment and you will be fine. You CAN try others and I def recommend to but always start low and learn how it effects you. I don't recommend ever jumping to large doses abruptly ever. DMT is also much different than any other psychedelic, nothing will really prepare you for it nor is it anything I believe needs preparing. Quote:When you took DMT did you feel you learnt about yourself? How has DMT affected your life (if at all) after you took it? Yes. My life has taken a much different course due to the fact I work with DMT rather than use it on occasion or whatever. I really think it is a tool and you have to learn to work with it. Use it when you feel the need arise. Don't over indulge. Experiment with different techniques of thought, or set and setting. FIgure out exactly the best way to bring it into your life. Open up to it. If you click on my username and goto experience reports you will see that I get the types of experiences that always show me some part of me and how it works so that I am better prepared to work on that issue. I didn't even know that I had anxiety problems until DMT. To end... I think DMT is right for you if you think you are ready. It's like learning a new language, the more you work with it the more you understand. Good luck and ask any other questions you may have and I will answer them to the best of my abilities. Open your Mind ( โถ) Please read my DMT vaping guide ( โถ) Fear is the mind killer "Energy flows where attention goes" [Please review the forum Wiki and FAQ before posting questions]
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Posts: 5267 Joined: 01-Jul-2010 Last visit: 13-Dec-2018
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Quote: My questions
I would say I am a genuinely happy and positive person with a stable mindset, however these issues have been bugging me about my experimentation of DMT, if I go into the trip being anxious about my subconscious thoughts, would this do more harm than good? Could it lead to a bad trip?
Another note, I haven't tried any psychedelics before and don't really have much of a perception of what a "trip" is like, will DMT be too intense for me? Would it be better to try LSD first?
When you took DMT did you feel you learnt about yourself? How has DMT affected your life (if at all) after you took it?
Any of you that take the time to answer any of my questions, please feel free to choose from any question I listed here, I'm not expecting anyone to just bulldoze it and answer all of them straight away. (I know there is a lot and its time consuming)
All advice/opinions is much appreciated. Thankyou, S.M
1) Most people, even experience users tend to enter the experience with a certain amount of anxiety. Sometimes it's a biological reaction that can't be circumvented. On one hand I maintain that set/setting is indeed important, but on the other hand, DMT is full of surprises. It can give you bliss when you're down, and scare the hell out of you when you're cheery, or match your mood more accurately. There's a certain unknowable x-factor to the whole situation. A certain amount of variables affecting the situation that aren't known to us. Point is, that none of us are perfect, and we all inevitably bring some baggage into hyperspace whenever we go, but the outcome isn't always obvious based on the mental state in which you enter the experience. 2) You may not know what a trip is like, but for the amount of LSD that a first timer would take, and the amount of DMT a first timer would take, the experiences should be completely incomparable. Even at relatively low sub-breakthrough doses, DMT can still be quite visionary. It feels more natural to me than LSD (or even mushrooms which is more similar to DMT) and it's just a completely different ballgame. Even though DMT wasn't my first psychedelic, my first 100 or so DMT trips were almost without exception either amazing or average with no negatives. Now that's just me. I now have negative experiences, and most people I don't think get by as long without hitting some road bumps which goes to show you how unique everyone's reaction will be. It's impossible to tell you whether or not LSD would be something better to take first or not, but I actually look at DMT as a safer kind of option in a way for a starter. No matter what - whether it's blissful, mediocre, or horrifying - it's all said and done and over within minutes. There's not really enough time to get caught up in a significant panic because by the time you get all worked up, it's wearing off and whether you had the time of your life or wished it didn't happen, it's over and in the past. With LSD, even if you hit just a minor speedbump, you may have to deal with that for hours, and things can down spiral out of control into a negative frenzy which you may have to deal with tormentingly for quite some time. I would take my worst DMT trip any day over a couple hours of some of the hells I've found myself in with some of the longer acting psychedelics. You don't need a perception of what a trip is like because you're just gonna find yourself right in the middle of one in no time with DMT. Doesn't matter what you expect, cause it probably won't be much like it, even with prior psychedelic experience, and you'll see what your imagination cannot possibly show you. 3) I've learned about myself in becoming aware of things that I didn't know I was capable of. It has notably affected my pattern perception and attention to detail. Certain connections become rather explicit. I'm sure I could answer this question more thoroughly, but nothing is coming to me right now. "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein
"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead
"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
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Posts: 628 Joined: 12-Jan-2010 Last visit: 28-Feb-2019
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Let me say that first of all I think you are on a good path, trying to figure out who you really are. I think the feeling of putting up a front is something that a lot of people experience, but I also think that weed makes it worse than it is. It might give you some insights, but in general (and this is purely personal) I believe that it does your anxieties no good. Maybe weed is not for you and I say this out of experience with my own fears and insecurities that came up when smoking a lot. At the end I was thinking a lot about how others looked at me and I even started fantasizing about it, mostly in a negative way. This of course may be different from person to person so I am not saying that weed is bad for everyone, but just asking you to look at what weed does to you. On the dmt/other psychedelics question I don't completely agree with Global in mainly one point: yes dmt is much shorter therefor reducing the chance of getting caught up in a panic, but this also means that you will have less time to get insights out of it, which in my opinion an orally ingested psychedelic like mushrooms, lsd or ayahuasca for that matter does give you. So basically it's a question of getting a lot out of it with a higher risk of panic or getting "less" out of it with a lower risk of panic. Plus also if you would have to choose between lsd or mushrooms I would go for the mushrooms every time. Again this is very personal, but to me the mushrooms have much more to teach. I can't fully explain this, but the mushroom takes over your entire body whereas lsd takes over your head. Just one more thing, please whichever psychedelic you choose DO NOT FORGET SET AND SETTING. Choose a good spot and surround yourself with people you trust and love. Don't just go about tripping with people you don't know certainly the first time. I think this is the number one factor in diminishing the chances of a panic. Safe travels "It permits you to see, more clearly than our perishing mortal eye can see, vistas beyond the horizons of this life, to travel backwards and forwards in time, to enter other planes of existence, even (as the Indians say) to know God." R. Gordon Wasson
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Posts: 219 Joined: 07-Jul-2013 Last visit: 19-Apr-2024
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In what way are you not being true to yourself? Not expressing your true feelings / beliefs.
Could be worth sitting down whilst sober and writing down where you feel you are selling yourself short. Discuss this with a true friend and work through your list if it is needed. No shame in asking for a little help.
It could just be the herb making you paranoid but there could be real reasons behind this.
The onset of a DMT experience can literally shatter your world and leave your life seeming like a distant echo. It will not solve anything but could teach you that it is not the challenges you face but the way you deal with them that makes the biggest difference to how you feel deep inside.
We are complex beings and not all black and white sometimes it is good to question our path and choices in life it helps us grow you don't need drugs to do this but in my experience psychedelics can force you to confront things that could otherwise be swept away and never addressed.
With DMT the experience is so short and intense that most of the learning comes from reflection after the event and the way you integrate this into your day to day existence.
Peace and good luck on your journey.
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