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I plan on growing both Khat and Kratom this summer to try both of their effects. I was wondering if anyone has tried either, or both, that could share some insight into their effects. I have done many searches and most just say they are both stimulants that cause euphoria. By allowing this message to pass through your cornea, into your retina, you accept it as is and agree to my disclaimer regarding my posts that they are a complete falsification by doing so freeing me of all liability, direct, indirect, consequential or incidental that may arise from the instillation of this post in your memory bank.
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Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Kratom is more sedating and analgesic. Khat is very stimulating and almost drunken euphoria. WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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JC
Posts: 1183 Joined: 18-Jan-2008 Last visit: 12-May-2024 Location: Scotland
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Id love to know how you get on FatCat as I have five khat seeds but just havent got round to trying to germinate them. At low doses kratom can be quite stimulating, but in my limited experience of it its very subtle, people do tend to use it more for the sedating effects, which I didnt like at all, think I may have took too much though, im not into opiates though. Khat is a great plant which I used to use quite reguarly, had some on Sunday, that was the first time in a couple of months. It makes you really sociable and chatty and can be great for a night out or a night of chatting with friends, sometimes when ive been chewing during the day then Ill have a couple of drinks with my girlfriend I end up having these really deep conversations about things, isnt just the alcohol, great social plant and hopefully ill get off my bum and get some on the go this summer. Ive heard when its fresh it can be a mild psychedelic, good for people who arent into psychedelics, apparantly. I get it from the local somali Khat shop, cool dudes 
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Posts: 4342 Joined: 02-Oct-2008 Last visit: 19-Jan-2024
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khat is illegal in the states...dumb huh
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JC
Posts: 1183 Joined: 18-Jan-2008 Last visit: 12-May-2024 Location: Scotland
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Shocking, I heard that a couple of weeks ago. I heard the ethiopians yemenese and somalis couldnt beleive this plant that they know far more about than the people making it illegal is illegal. To them its like banning tea or coffee. In somalia no one really drinks alcohol, it is a muslim country, but smoke lots of weed chew khat and take kanna. Alcohols a lot worse than these things. Apparantly the somali woman wanted it banned though because it increases sperm count and the men would just sit around chewing all day and making lots of children. It can be addictive, ive seen some people who are messed up on it, but to ban a plant that they use like tea or coffeee is wrong, the people who get messed up on it are in the minority, the ones ive met. Governments like banning plants though dont they 
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Teotzlcoatl
Posts: 2462 Joined: 08-Jul-2008 Last visit: 24-Jun-2011 Location: South-Eastern U.S.A.
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Quote:khat is illegal in the states. I'd call is pseudo-illegal. WARNING: DO NOT INGEST ANY BOTANICAL WHICH YOU HAVE NOT FULLY RESEARCHED AND CORRECTLY IDENTIFIED!!!I am Teotzlcoatl, older cousin of Quetzalcoatl. My most famous physical incarnation was Nezahualcoyotl, but I have taken many forms since the dawn of the cosmos. In this realm I manifest as multiple entities at a single time. I am many, I am numbered. I am few, but more than one. I am a multifaceted being, a winged serpent with many heads. We are Teotzlcoatl. "We Are The One's We've Been Waiting For" - Hopi Proverb
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Posts: 198 Joined: 04-Mar-2009 Last visit: 27-Sep-2015 Location: That Great Gig in the Sky
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From what I gather it's really illegal in Canada. I am much more excited to try the Khat now than the kratom. I have a huge garden so I'm not really afraid of anyone being able to tell what anything is. By allowing this message to pass through your cornea, into your retina, you accept it as is and agree to my disclaimer regarding my posts that they are a complete falsification by doing so freeing me of all liability, direct, indirect, consequential or incidental that may arise from the instillation of this post in your memory bank.
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The Root
Posts: 2458 Joined: 02-Jul-2008 Last visit: 27-Sep-2023 Location: The asteroid belt
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khat is a serious stimulant - kratom is chilled out - swim has tried both lots and reccomends both highly. antrocles wrote:...purity of intent....purity of execution....purity of experience...
...unlike the "blind leading the blind". we are more akin to a group of blind-from-birth people who have all simultaneously been given the gift of sight but have no words or mental processing capabilites to work with this new "gift".
IT IS ONLY TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ARE WILLING TO EXPOSE OURSELVES OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO ANNIHILATION THAT WE DISCOVER THAT PART OF OURSELVES THAT IS INDESTRUCTIBLE.
Quote: ‹Jorkest› the wall is impenetrable as far as i can tell Quote: ‹xtechre› cheese is great He who packs ur capsules - controls your destiny.
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