Your yeild looks wonderful. You say its chalky though. It should not be chalky. It should be crystaline/waxy. If it looks chalky then you might have calcium precipitates in it or something. But from the picture it looks perfect. I would suspect the smoking technique. Its not verry hard to smoke it. Even if you burn it you'll know cuz it becomes very harsh smoke. Does it have an intense plastic smell to it? When you smoke it do you taste the plastic strongly or does it have another taste?

Try a re-x and see what comes of that.

How much bark/plant was used to get your 2-3g?

i used 150g of bark how would i go about re-x should i add some water and heat it slightly and then add the dmt and let it reevap slowly? yes it does have that taste of plastic slightly i deffently taste something

How much did it weigh in the end? I ask because 150g of bark should yeild 1.5-3g. 3g being pretty much the maximum you can get out using the best techniques and skill. So if you got 3g I would suspect that you have something else in it as well. But doing a re-x will fix your problem if it is an issue with purity or something.

To do a re-x, take your spice and put it either into a jar or a flat glass dish. Spread it out as good as you can to create a bigger surface area. Now heat some naptha with a hot water bath, or use another method of heating your naptha, just be safe. Whenever you have your heated naptha just add it to your container of spice. The dmt should readily absorb into the heated naptha and all the other stuff will be left behind. Do not shake or stir it too much. 50ml of heated naptha can fit a gram of dmt into it. So you'd only need to use 150ml of heated naptha MAX. When you add the heated naptha, let it sit for a couple minutes, then pour the naptha into another clean container(the container you're going to use for freezing/crystallizing). I suggest using a jar for your re-x so that you can pour off the heated naptha easily. Remember that any spilling of naptha at this point will result in large losses so be careful when pouring. I would add heated naptha 50ml at a time. After you've poured off the naptha freeze it or evaporate that naptha and your spice will be cleaner and purer.

sounds good ill try and let you know how it comes out i sucpect you might be right in thinking i have alot of impurities withtin my dmt so hopefully a r-ex will help

so i have warmed up some vm&p and dumped the chalcky in apperence and texture spice in it evapped and left clearish translucent flacks that form a much smaller pile of spice then last time

so update i have maybe a half g of cllearish flacky material looks like if you smashed a crystals it would be the dust left behind ...also i am wonder is freezer percipation needed i usally let the solvent air dry maybe with some help of a crockpot on low

Anything left over from your re-x that did not absorb into the naptha is NOT dmt. There might be a very very minute amount of dmt left it it but I would just throw it out as it is impurities. Your white flakes are spice. Evaporating it all is okay. People freeze for a cleaner product(less plant oils) but it is not at all necessary. Whatever came from you naptha after the re-x is good to go. Give that a test run.

Can you explain what each of those pictures are and what each pile is?

bottom pic on the right small pile is clear translucent powder im hoping dmt large pile is white chalcky substance the lime im assuming ....ive since washed all original spice gotten impurities out some is yellowish goo or more rock salt like yellow crystals....next question i have is does dmt melt burn how do i go about using it best method

Dmt should immediately melt under a lighter flame. A lighter flame is actually too hot for dmt to handle so what you want to do is waft the lighter flame over your spice as you're inhaling.

Are you using a bong or pipe? Either way its the same, but with a bong its easier to blast off. What you should do is put herb in the bowl/slider like normal then take a small pinch off the top. Replace that with a layer of dmt(or if you have a mg scale, put about 60-100mg on it) remember that just because you put 100mg on the bowl does not mean you're going to inhale it all at once. Just put a layer across the top of your bowl. And use the flame wafting method and you will see the spice melt instantly.

so ive tried smoking spice in pipe mny a now under some herb i even wrapped screen in some foil to make a flame guard nothing seems to work not feeling trippy though it only kinda melts it has somewhat differnet smell not plastic though ....im just confused i did all steps right just not sure now if i have dmt ive got some more wet yellow goo to butt cant seem to feel any thing from ethier....i used mimosa root bark i have tree growing in yard i blended it down till it was fibery i used 4% white vinger mrs. wages pickleing lime and vm&p solvent

Ohhh man. you may not even have the right tree at all. How positive are you that its mimosa hostilis? Cuz there are over 400 different mimosa trees and 99% of them will not yeild you dmt. Are you thinking that a mimosa tree(silk tree) is what contains dmt? Take a pic of your tree and post it. If you live in new orleans you probably don't have the right tree. Mimosa hostilis grows in mexico/brazil.

so ive got silk tree.....damn no wonder nothing is working....any idea where i can get dmt containg plants?

i am considering doing my first extraction attempt with Vortex' lazyman tek. i just powdered approx. 100 gr of mhrb. I sifted it and now i have the fine powder (containing very small chunks of fibers) and fibers that were held by the sift. So i want to know do i have to put everything - both the powder and the fibres, or it's pointless to add the fibres.

What I plan to use:

Zippo Ligter fluid 125 ml
Lye
Distilled water

Correct me if i'm wrong :

if i use both powder and the fibres (~100 gr. - i don't have an eletronic scale, i use a simple kitchen mechanic one), i have to use about 50 gr of lye and about 150 ml of Zippo lighter fluid?


Peace to all!

Does your lighter fluid contain anything besides naptha? I would stray away from using zippo fluids because they have contaminates in them. But if you think the fluid is fine then you're going to want to use 200ml per gram of expected spice. Yes use the fibres and the powder. No sense wasting goods, its all got spice in it. So you have 100g mhrb, that should yeild about 1.5g of spice. Id use 3-100ml naptha pulls. My suggestion is to use 800ml water, 50g lye, 50g noniodized salt, and then the 3-100ml pulls(300ml naptha).

thanks for answering, pal

it is this solvent that i'm aware of atm to be available in my town

http://www.torba.bg/aksesoari-z...-zippo-125ml-3141ex.html

ill make an evap test, as suggested, to see if theres something left

i am sure there are other naphta-containg products, but i am not yet aware of them (as commercial products)

i'll also look for heptane, but don't know what places i could find it at

cheers!

Most hardware stores sell pure naptha in their paint thinner section.

I'm fairly confident zippo premium lighter fuel is naptha only.

Hi peeps,
I used the Q21Q21 extraction path and salted this goo out of the vegetable oil.
It doesn't look very nice, any thoughts on what it might be? Smells kind of like licorice...mmm...

hi, if anyone can pick faults, or offer tweaks on quantities or temperatures etc, of the tek i'm going with, i'd appreciate it very much. I have to do all i can to avoid strong odours. i realise i could have gone with other less harmfull chemicals but for now i would like to make this work.

i have 250g of brazilian mhrb; what i would call finely shredded with a fair bit of powder. i thought i'd start with a 50g of mhrb and then if all goes well 2 x 100g at a later date(or is 100 g mhrb easier to work with?). i am using the lazyman's tek.

add 75g lye to 1 litre distilled water, wait till fully disolved (is warm water better as i have lye pearls?). mix with mhrb. do i have to sit over it and stir? (avoiding chemical odour). i'm in no rush so letting it stand overnight would be ok? add 130 ml of ronsonol (1 canister (is warm better?)) stir a little and leave 5-10 mins then pour off into glass dish. perform sodium carbonate wash and a couple of water washes (warm?). pour on baking pyrex and evap(i won't be using a freezer). can i use a dehumidifier in a largish air tight'ish container to encourage evaporation? once dried/crystallised perform 1 solvent wash using ronsonol (i have acetone if thats better? assuming its pure for now)) till dmt dissolved. re-evap. was gonna store product in a glass container with dessicant in fridge.

make enhanced leaf (changa next time maybe): if the ratio is 2 units leaf to 1 unit of dmt, will it be less harsh? i'm happy to go 1:1 if its the same harshness though i'm guessing more concentrated dmt equals harsher. put leaf in shot glass, add dmt, pour on acetone till leaf is covered, stir then leave to evap.

i assume lye plus ingredients, whilst soaking, is extremely caustic on the nose...so i will be doing alot of it it outdoors and maybe with some help if fumes are totally unavoidable so will the lower temps make a difference?

my reason for doing this is to help with chronic illness and support a recovery, which is possible. thankyou for this site so i can do this safely. i'm not lopoking for breakthroughs at present, just some healing body buzzes.

peace~

Okay, your idea od doing a 50g now and 2-100 later is a good idea. If you're doing 50g, use only 500ml water and 50g lye(even that is extreme, but it first trial), and 20g salt(sea salt, nonidodized salt, nacl or kcl). The water does need preheated. Actually, when you add the lye it will heat itself up due to an exothermic reaction with naoh and water. So if for whatever reason you wanted it hot, it does so automatically. I think using hot water might make it too hot and stress the glass if the water has too much turbulence because of the lye. As for how long they are left to sit before doing pulls.. I let my jars sit for over a week. This ensures that a vast majority of your alkaloids have been based. Then I add 200ml naptha(lighter fluid) per expected gram of spice. I always expect 2% yeild(I'm generous ). So with 50g bark use 4-50ml naptha pulls, peferably preheated in a hot water bath or another SAFE method of heating the naptha, NO OPEN FLAMES. After the four pulls have been added together just evaporate as you would. I would highly suggest you evaporate 50%-66% of that and just freeze precipitation it in a sealed mason jar. This will minize smell and allow for A LOT cleaner crystals than evaporating completelu. If you freeze precip using this method then you need to freeze it until it grows extremely cloudy and then back to clear This will take several hours(8+). Once your ready to collect your crystals remove it from the freeze and QUICKLY pour off the naptha into a seperate container. You can reuse that naptha.

Heya,
I figured this is kinda the "small questions thread".

One of my (ready-to-be-pulled) jars shattered because I didnt put anything beneath it in my bain-marie and another problem occured.
Long story short: I have a big cooking pot full of aqueous mix (around 4-5liters)(MHRB, salt, lye, water vinegar 8%). Is it okay to cook it down to a lower volume so I can pull it with solvent? Are the fumes/damp toxic?