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I should have said I know what orgone is and does but from a hyperspacial perspective its hard to say. It feel to me like these things have their own intelligences and personalities when in hyperspace. I read some of Wilhelm Reichs work as well
My orgonite has a coil inside at the length of the lost cubit coiled at the golden ration. It is dipped in black tourmaline, has aquamarine in the center and has plates around it with alternating copper and steel pellets with quartz tips. And then the whole thing is placed in a sealed mold and sealed in pine pitch, or beeswax resin.
The guy who makes them knows his stuff, his backyard and house was like some giant orgone resonant device last time I was there. He has some of the ogonites hooked into his computer and they emit a different frequencies that he has programmed. Like layers of solfreggio tones and other such frequencies. Also he has some sort of charged water chamber that puts his orgones in to charge his spring water or something like that.
Anyways mine is legit I haven't found any on the internet worth buying, and my attempts at making my own have failed. I don't have the right tools or good enough molds. Ill be returning to arizona this winter and hopefully being getting some of the bigger ones that he has made.
The above trip we had several orgone devices of all shapes and sizes. And I only had a few days with him so we didn't talk too much about orgone but this year I will be with him for about ten days, so I will definitely be asking him a few questions and hopefully get to watch him make one for me.
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@ the breadinspector the whole trip occurred in what seemed like some sort of in between realm. Not quite the full blown hyperspace, but definitely not my sober reality.
I did communicate but it was telepathic and far past anything I can put into words. The craft seemed to me made of pulsing electricity aligned in a crystalline lattice. Nothing like the starship enterprise lol. I saw the technology but I couldn't understand it.
TBH the trip was less about the aliens and more about what they were showing me, which seemed to be about the human potential and how little we utilize our faculties. I really didn't have much time to process anything it all happened so fast. I am still processing and likely will be for the rest of my life.
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"It is dipped in black tourmaline, has aquamarine in the center and has plates around it with alternating copper and steel pellets with quartz tips" Does it have very fine metal shavings and even better, metal powders to really model what Reich was doing? There is a lot of orgonite out there with just metal beads and large hunks of metal things in it, and that stuff seems to be made by people who don't really understand Reichs work. Beads are okay but they should not be the smallest metal pieces in there. A matrix with just metal beads and larger metal pieces wont resonate properly..you want a thick dense matrix which the beads don't really produce. Think about how Reich was laying the stuff..you have to model that with metal and resin..which is why the very first people who started making orgonite were using fine metal shavings/powder with resin at a roughly 1/1 ratio. You cant get that with metal beads etc. That does not mean it wont work though..it just wont be as powerful because the matrix wont resonate the same way. Basicaly, if it is not filled with very fine metal shavings and better yet, powders..avoid it. It wont work nearly as well. When I pour a piece I like it coming out like solid black/silver/copper from the iron, steel and copper powders and shavings. The only transparent part I ever have is a crystal on the very top..that is what to look for IMO..basically if the thing just looks pretty but mostly transparent with like 10% metal, it is not going to be that powerful. Try adding bionized sand to a piece and see if it changes anything. Reichs work with bions is pretty interesting. Long live the unwoke.
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"He has some of the ogonites hooked into his computer and they emit a different frequencies that he has programmed. Like layers of solfreggio tones and other such frequencies" I gave some older electrician guy some orgonite also and he hooked them up to different meters he had and said he got weird readings, but I wasn't there to verify this. Long live the unwoke.
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Ill take a picture when I have time, mine has metal shavings in it i know. It has a bipyrimadal shape, like two pryamids base to base. And after he has the coil and mineral sealed in the mold he adds these discs that have pellets of steel and copper laid in. And then they are arrayed around the outside of the orgonite.
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this one is pretty old and worn from being around fires and left outside adam attached the following image(s): ![](/forum/themes/DMT-Nexus/icon_file.gif) IMG_5326.JPG (773kb) downloaded 176 time(s).
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Wow man very amazing trip and thanks for sharing all this info. A last question is do you think these guys could help you with technolgy that would change the world? after all yu said something about them saying human wastes their resources on useless things.
do you think these beings culd possibley share tech like free energy or a healing device, like they could show you the blueprints to make such a device anyways do you have a moldavite? they say its a great gemstone for extraterrestrial contact who knows maybe yo could keep iin touch with these guys.
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i have made a few orgone devices, good fun. i found wrapping interlacing layers of foil and tissue paper around a cylindrical cardboard tube or plasstic container, to be a quick easy way to make one at home. and make a pointed cone for the top or use a funnel with a marble in it and fill with beeswax and metal bits...i hasve a mini buddha in mine and a double terminated quartz. whilst solidifying i charged the wax up using pulsor microcrystal scalar resonators. i don't believe its good to just put any stones into them, so i hear..they need some research. a powerfull and cheap way to get your house buzzing is to fill a large bottle with water and add sea salt to sea water strength solution, attach a small scalar pendant to it and wrtap an electrical cable round it, taking all the necessary safety into mind, and plug the device, say an ioniser, into the socket. once the bottle charges up it supposedl;y conditions the electrons in the house to spin in a way that is more benefical to humans. i actually move any scalar devices away from my immediate space during a journey as i find them too strong but then i have alot of difficulty grounding energy anyway. "only a closed mind is certain"
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"i found wrapping interlacing layers of foil and tissue paper around a cylindrical cardboard tube or plasstic container, to be a quick easy way to make one at home. and make a pointed cone for the top or use a funnel with a marble in it and fill with beeswax and metal bits" Where is the pressure in the matrix and on the crystal to produce electrostriction coming from? What you are describing is similar to Reichs accumulators-which were only to be used out in the country away from any electrosmog(like cell phones,wireless internet etc) otherwise they would accumulate "DOR", which he called (deadly orgone radiation). The pressure from the shrinkage of the resin matrix is what in theory converts DOR into POR(positive orgone radiation)..there is a few ideas on what this is, and on of them is due to the electrostriction within the crystal producing a piezoelectric current that is coherent enough to restructure the orgone..the other theories still involve the pressure from the matrix, unless you are using more complex devices that involve pulsing(continuously) etc. In short, I would highly advice you get rid of any orgone accumulator you have in your home today that does not do these things. Beeswax works, if you clip the crystal with a binder clip or something before you put it in, so there is still electrostriction..you should not just be putting crystals into wax as is..there is not enough pressure from the wax shrinkage. Long live the unwoke.
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hi there, thanks for pointing out your concerns and i will re-evaluate. i was/am aware that reich inadvertently attracted DOR as he called it. my reading says that its the wax or organic substance that absorbs the surrounding "available" subtle energy and the metal that reflects it outwards- thus accummulating and spreading constantly. in a book i have called secrets of the soil they mention various ways you can make this happen. there are many variations on "orgone" devices, as you probably know. the interlacing layers limestone and sandstone in barrows (so called burial mounds), hieronymus' cosmic pipe that broadcast the specific vibrations of whats inside it, the irish round towers ("where for sure the grass is greener" ![Pleased](/forum/images/emoticons/happy.png) . i believe reich also put a radiation source in one accumulator (mentioned in cosmic super-imposition i think)which caused, apparently, black clouds and a very dark negative type energy feeling. my feeling is that whats inside is amplified many times into the surrounding area. inside mine i have a full spectrum pulsor micro-crystal resonator as the main source of subtle energy. these contain millions of supposedly mono-pole micro-quartz crystals that (and id agree here) amplify the human frequency and hence deflect, gyroscopically, that which is not of our chakra frequencies. the wax should also be charged with the human frequency and defo had time to charge up. the pulsors use electrostriction as they contain a combination of micro-crystals with resin, so im kind of cheating from the off. i'm aware it may not be mega strong in itself but what i put with it is pretty powerfull on its own. for me its the subtle energy source that matters most when making sure its at least giving pro life safe energy. the cylinder and cone on top is an excellent shape to get energy into your surrounsdings. the notion of electro-striction piezo affect may even come from pulsor theory as its mentioned alot in the book. the words you use are straight out tom bearden's explanation. the micro-crystals are quartz and exhibit piezo electric affects very well. i think you're right to add caution to orgone making and you might be right here though i think they're ok...partly as they have what you say but you didn't know. feel free to correct anything as i'm open to it. i can see how the shrinking resin could help with pressure etc and i agree with using fine metal particles. ive read a fair bit on the power of colloids which are kind of mini orgone generators. and point taken about clipping the crystal. previously i wrapped one tightly in a copper coil to exert force on it, i forgot this time. an important point to add is that i was purposeful;ly avoiding chemical odours. "only a closed mind is certain"
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thebreadinspector wrote:Wow man very amazing trip and thanks for sharing all this info. A last question is do you think these guys could help you with technolgy that would change the world? after all yu said something about them saying human wastes their resources on useless things.
do you think these beings culd possibley share tech like free energy or a healing device, like they could show you the blueprints to make such a device anyways do you have a moldavite? they say its a great gemstone for extraterrestrial contact who knows maybe yo could keep iin touch with these guys.
I believe its possible who knows? I have been shown things about myself I never knew so if thats possible I believe being shown the blueprint to some technology would be as well. I don't have any moldavite but the person I was with had some and some moldavite charged oil, it does seem very powerful indeed, very alien due to it like being from space.
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adam wrote:thebreadinspector wrote:Wow man very amazing trip and thanks for sharing all this info. A last question is do you think these guys could help you with technolgy that would change the world? after all yu said something about them saying human wastes their resources on useless things.
do you think these beings culd possibley share tech like free energy or a healing device, like they could show you the blueprints to make such a device anyways do you have a moldavite? they say its a great gemstone for extraterrestrial contact who knows maybe yo could keep iin touch with these guys.
I believe its possible who knows? I have been shown things about myself I never knew so if thats possible I believe being shown the blueprint to some technology would be as well. I don't have any moldavite but the person I was with had some and some moldavite charged oil, it does seem very powerful indeed, very alien due to it like being from space. Thanks for all the replies adam i enjoyed reading them and your expereince was mind blowing, i too cant wait for my first dmt trip and hope to come into direct contact with ETs. I used to have a piece of moldavite but it diseapered on me some months back.
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No problem, and be careful what you wish for. But seriously be safe I know I made it sound fun, but it was also very very terrifying.
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lol so true a lot of things happening lately one more question id like to ask is when you where in space what was it like? could you describe it? where there windows in the spacescraft or was the spacecraft cmpletely clear and see through?
and how did the earth look from way out there from where u were in space? thanks again
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adam wrote:No problem, and be careful what you wish for. But seriously be safe I know I made it sound fun, but it was also very very terrifying. adam could u reply 1 last time thanks
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Well that part is difficult to explain. I feel like there was a cord back to my body but my consciousness, went up and out into the stars through some sort of wormhole. I never saw the earth from my disembodied perspective. The whole thing had a crystalline appearance that was morphing. It wasn't necessarily obvious to me that I was inside this starship either, but rather just being guided by it, my awareness was sort of diffuse and this starship was more like an attractor for my mind to latch onto.
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thanks again adam its an amazing experience, have you met any other e.ts on ur other dmt trips and did you end up meeting these aliens again?
another question is do you stay in your body in a dmt trip? id like to get some help from the aliens that i could take into the physical world with
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With this trip I left my body but still had an awareness of my body. Most times I vape dmt I have no awareness or memory of possessing a body if I do my body is more like some alchemical vessel.
I have met several entities, I don't believe I have met the same aliens again though.
The dmt entities I encounter usually give me something to help me heal myself or at least it seems that way. Although it is usually in the form of some strange teaching that is hard to translate into words as it is once a physical thing and a message...hard to explain.
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“Beeswax works, if you clip the crystal with a binder clip or something before you put it in, so there is still electrostriction..you should not just be putting crystals into wax as is..there is not enough pressure from the wax shrinkage.” This needs a bump. This information seems to come from here https://orgonia.bigcartel.com/orgonia-inventionsBut that’s it. There and the nexus are the only two sources mentioning beeswax binder clip orgonite, which I ended up creating with herkimer diamonds and cut up copper coated scrubber. I couldn’t find any test results with this, other than people saying beeswax creates negative energy on its own. So like I did in the past with resin orgonite, I’m going to use seeds in seed trays to see if I can get them to germinate and sprout in 3 days. That’s how long it took with traditional orgonite. This is a huge development in the orgone community that I don’t think has progressed very far in the last 5-6 years. Not if everyone’s concluded that it doesn’t work before binder clips were discovered.
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