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liklyut
#1 Posted : 10/16/2013 8:52:59 AM

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Hi everyone.

here's the problem:
SWIM was doing the q21 tek with naphta (it's not his first attempt, although he's not very experienced as well). He did extraction of MHRB, mixed with vinegar, added hot water, then added calcium hydroxide, let it sit (this time it happened to sit 24hrs) and did the first pull, popped it in the freezer and nothing precipitated. which was very odd, SWIM is always using the same technique and it worked all the time, except this one. then out of interest he left that unprecipitated naphta in the freezer, and did another pull, using same brand naptha, popped in the freezer and he's got crystals! this where he get's confused.
second pull yielded as a usual second pull, much less than first one, so SWIM thinks that there's quite a bit of alkaloids in the first naptha pull, which did not precipitate.

Please share your ideas of what to do next (swim wants to avoid evaporation method due to possible additives in Ronsonol naptha).

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#2 Posted : 10/16/2013 9:24:21 AM

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liklyut wrote:
Swim wants to avoid evaporation method due to possible additives in Ronsonol naptha


How about not evaping it completely but to a point where it becomes more saturated aka becomes cloudy?
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#3 Posted : 10/16/2013 10:10:52 AM

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guess it's worth giving a shot. what to do when it's cloudy, freezer step again?
 
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#4 Posted : 10/16/2013 10:45:43 AM

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liklyut wrote:
guess it's worth giving a shot. what to do when it's cloudy, freezer step again?


Yes.

Thumbs up Good luck!
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#5 Posted : 10/16/2013 12:46:06 PM

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great, SWIM is grateful for advice. also, if you could shed some light of why that could happen and help him to understand the process more fully, that would be great.
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#6 Posted : 10/16/2013 1:03:16 PM

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#7 Posted : 10/29/2013 11:23:09 PM

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Late reply, but thanks for you guys, I managed it with pre-vap.
 
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#8 Posted : 10/30/2013 1:55:51 AM

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Right on, what did you yield?
H how many grams MHRB?

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