I've been encouraged to post about my experience with 'jungle spice' minus the actual DMT.

I can't give exact measurements but it was just about all I could possibly toke down, so it was plenty, lets put it that way.

I extracted some jungle with xylene, doing multiple rips with it after I had finished with the hexane after i was confident that all of the DMT was already extracted. The xylene yielded some dark red crumbly waxy substance, pretty much visually the same as the 'jungle' described here.

This material produced Dmt-like effect, but took noticeably more to actually take me to the DMT headspace. No doubt it was full of DMT, but did not taste particularly great. I suspect it's mostly impure DMT, and would not crystallize or produce a psychedelic effect if the DMT was removed.

I dissolved this material into distilled vinegar then added water and basified it with NaOH, extracting the remaining dregs of DMT (if any) with hexane, then extracting the remaining 'jungle' with xylene and evaporating it again.

This time the resulting gooey substance did not crystallize at all nor would it solidify after over a week and a half in the open air. The reddish color still remained. The taste of DMT was totally absent when vaping it, and I did not notice any obvious psychedelic effect. I did notice it was rather harsh taste and was not particularly easy on the lungs.

From this test from endlessness's results from analyzing this substance, I suspect that it is pretty much inactive, even if it does contain something noteworthy, it seems too small an amount to notice on it's own. I encourage anyone else to try to separate jungle from DMT itself, vape it and post results here.

How did you smoke it? And what is your rough estimate of how much you smoked?

A couple of bowls in a steamroller pipe with thick steel wool (steel choreboy), gently heated and inhaled, must have been maybe 60mg, about the same size of a pile of DMT of that weight. Probably more though since this substance is much more dense- an oily goop.

Note that I usually break through with this method with DMT without fail with only 25-30mg of DMT.

Where is endlessness' analysis posted?

Hm. Oil would not be more dense than a solid, but that's besides the point, all things considered. I think if a couple more people came to this same conclusion after thoroughly removing the dmt from said JS we could put an end to this.

My only experience with JS was when I thoroughly tapped out my jar using naptha,, then I hit it with xyl. The xylene dried into a dark red wax. I put it into a clean bong with fresh herbs. I smoked it the same way I would regular spice. It felt like dmt but was rougher and hurt my body more to smoke it. But id say it still probably had a minor amount of dmt in it. Id like to try another JS extract and thoroughly remove the dmt from it. I never considered removing the dmt from the js after the xyl pull. Hm

Just to clarify my thinking here I was mindful of the fact there is a lot of air space between crystals in a pile of DMT. Once melted down the glob would be quite a lot smaller in volume.

"Oil would not be more dense than a solid"

It is.