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Nitegazer
#1 Posted : 10/9/2013 10:12:03 PM

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Greetings All,

I have only had twenty or so experiences with spice and changa, almost always vaped. I am now planning to have my first Ayahusca/Mimosa experience. I would appreciate any feedback on dosage or technique that you have to offer. (Thanks q21q21 for the essentials of this)

I plan on conducting a cold-water extraction, filter, and egg white tek on separate preparations of yellow caapi powder (50g per dose) and powdered MHRB (6g per dose).

Here is my planned process:

- moisten powder (about 1ml for each gram of powder) with a 10:1 mixture of distilled water and distilled vinegar
- freeze overnight
- thaw and bring to room temperature
- add approximately 8ml of near-boiling water for each gram of powder
- mix on low heat for 15 mins.(do not boil)
- settle, decant
- repeat with 8ml/g distilled water for two more pulls
- combine the three pulls, and filter
- boil down solution
- place cooked egg white into concentrated solution while boiling to absorb tannins
- Cool and Freeze until use

I look forward to any and all responses.
 

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3rdI
#2 Posted : 10/9/2013 10:20:45 PM

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Hello nitegazer,

since you are going to add near boiling water your not doing a cold water extraction so just do the normal 3x3hr prep.

I wouldn't do the egg white thing as it just weakens the brew.

Have you read the "all about Aya" thread? If not its a good read.

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Nitegazer
#3 Posted : 10/10/2013 2:21:03 AM

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Thanks 3rdi,

Yes, I have read the 'all about Aya' thread, and found it very useful. The reason I ventured into other threads was an attempt to avoid nausea. The two techniques I read that seem to reduce nausea are the egg white tek and Cold Water Brewing.

Perhaps the egg white would be most useful with the mimosa. I appreciate your comment that it can reduce potency, BUT I figure I can compensate for that by upping the dosage of the brew by a bit (maybe from 6g to 8g). I was able to find an thread by Norman where he compared the extracted dmt from regular and egg purified brews, and found a 30% reduction.

Regarding the cold water extraction, I know it is a bit of a misnomer. Here is the thread by q21q21 that I found for inspiration:
HWE = CWE with less water

This is the paragraph that got my attention:
"By adding hot water but not boiling, no steam is hitting the substance being brewed so none of the gunk is pull, in all cases SWIM's tried the actives have been pulled with almost identical concentration of that of a simmered brew but with (subjectively) identical properties of a cold water brew."


 
3rdI
#4 Posted : 10/10/2013 8:54:43 AM

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if you want to avoid nausea then I wouldn't drink Aya, the purge is part of the experience, some would say a very important part.

have you tried pharma? I never get any nausea or a purge from pharma so that may be a route to go down.
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Nitegazer
#5 Posted : 10/10/2013 1:20:52 PM

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Thank you for the recommendation. I read through the 'Feared and Misunderstood Purge' thread, and better understand your perspective.

I don't think going the pharma route is optimal for me. My understanding is that many people also purge with it, though that may have much to do with choice of potentiator (Rue). Secondly, there is something drawing me towards making a brew, and I think I will go through with it.

I may end up purging anyway, or perhaps I will gradually build more confidence and go with a more traditional recepie and the purge will follow. Regardless, unless some information comes to light that the techniqe above *will not work*, I will go ahead with my plans and report back here with the results.

This is all an evolution with me. I tend to go slow. Smile

Thanks again for your insights.
 
3rdI
#6 Posted : 10/10/2013 1:34:14 PM

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good luckThumbs up
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