As I'm getting ready to try out DMT, I am trying to make sure I am getting every aspect of it covered and have some questions.

I will ask later about the diet but my main concern is how it would interact with Oxyodone. I take 120mg of Oxycodone per day and 80mg of Oxycontin. I was up to 360mg but after a few procedures, 150mg worked wonders. However thank to idiotic state officials, the pharmacists won't dispense more than 120mg as they were told that if they did, they would lose their licenses to practice. Doctors don't get any repercussins, it's just the pharmacists who are blamed with the reason being, "doctors don't know about medication interactions, as pharmacists you should know that over 120mg is not good and therefore you should enforce it".

What is bad over 120mg? Nothing. Florida had the highest abuse rates with even places like Walgreens and CVS getting shut down for the illegal dispensing of Oxycodone. People who die of it are those who use it recreationally and have no idea what they are doing. It is one of the safest medications to take for pain as long as you take it as you are suppoed to be taking it. It is mostly natural with side effects that are nowhere close to even regular OTC pain killers.

Of course, on top of it all, the pharmacies won't dispense to non-regulars and even from the regular customers, they will give it to those they like since the numbers they get are very limited. In that aspect I am very lucky that I can regularly get my medication as I have seen people at the doctor's office asking to have the meds changed as they haven't been able to find a single place that would dispense the prescription. And I'm talking about 3-4 months of checking dozens of places and they still can't get it And when that happens, the doctors usually give them Methadone.

So since I can't take 150mg, I take 120mg and to make up for that one single 30mg pill, I have to take 40mgx2 of Oxycontin which is the 12 hour time released version. I take one as soon as I wake up, along with 1x30mg Oxycodone and it will get in my blood stream in about 15-20 minutes, otherwise I literally can't even get out of bed.

It is an extremely fast acting drug with a very short half life. It takes 15-30 minutes to fully disperse into the bloodstream and takes 3.5-4.5 to leave the system (+- 30 minutes but in my case it's close to 4 hours). I can tell I need my next pill when I start getting a tingly feeling on my upper back accompanied by jitters. If I don't take it within the next 15-20 minutes, the pain will hit 0 to 60 in probably 10 minutes tops but I've been very good with my timing and have had no problems in about 3 years that I've been taking it.

I'm in no way addicted to it but my body is dependent on it, that's a fact. I forgot my pill once when I went to the doctor and forgot to take my bottle with me. I took my morning pill around 6am and had an appointment at noon. By the time I got the jitters, I had been waiting over 30-40 minutes at the doctor's office and by 2 o'clock when he saw me, I was about ready to drop on the floor and die.

I feel no euphoria whatsoever, my body is totally used to it as for a first-timer, 180mg would be enough to kill them. However it's still a quite strong medication and I have no clue as to how it may react with the Ayahuasca or DMT. I drink rarely, on holidays and/or special occasions. This year, I must have drank maybe a total of 5 bottles of beer (maybe less), a total of maybe 2 bottles of Sangria and red wine, half a bottle of Scotch and maybe half a bottle of Glayva. It's always single servings except at times I may get 2 shots of Glayva or 2 glasses of wine. I get NOTHING unusual and feel exactly the same way I would feel if I weren' taking the Oxycodone.

I looked around and there is nothing against it, or even for it as it seems the only discussion they have is on whether Oxycodone is a MAOI and the answer is always no. I've also read about people taking both, but those are people who take both at once recreationally in order to get high. I haven't found anyone in my condition asking these questions so I wanted to ask here as this website is the most comprehensive site about the subject that I have encountered in at least a couple of years.

If the pain is intense, I also have 800mgx2 Ibuprofens to take but I haven' taken those in months. I have a couple more meds which I also don't take and prilosec which I take if I take all the meds since it is kind of hard on the stomach but as said, I haven't been taking anything else in a while now.

Any info, suggestions or feedback would be much appreciated.

As for diet, I haven't had much appetite lately so my diet sucks due to that as well. It's a muffin or a protein bar for breakfast, some plain yoghurt throughout the day, sometimes fruit yoghurt, maybe a couple of nuts, and high fiber low sugar cereal at night with whole milk. I may have protein shakes during the day butI haven't in months. I have high fiber low carb wraps as well but I haven't really been eating any. I don't drink any regular sodas and once in a while, I may drink a Canada Dry Diet Ginger Ale. I drink lots of coffee throughout the day (watered down though and nobody would drink it since it tastes more like water than coffee hehe), and lots of water.

Im sorry to here about your case and hope you get some answers. I'd recommened taking it when your are fully calm down from your drug or wake up in the middle of the night and do it. I just know that in the faq, DMT with oxy is not good experience.

Thanks

The only thing is aside from getting rid of the pain, I feel nothing from the Oxycodone. People take it to feel euphoric and do anything form snorting it to swallowing it. At the early stages when I was taking it, it would give me a feeling of being high, especially when I took it with Soma before sleep but after that the body got used to it and it's just like water for me, meaning I take it when I need it and that's it. Aside for not getting the pain, I absolutely feel nothing, I probably don't feel any different than someone not taking it but then again, that's at the physical level. It obviously does something to the receptors in the brain and it may interfere with the normal processing of the DMT utilization process. Research and books like DMT, the Spirit Molecule focus on what it does to the person and they solely focus on the effects of DMT versus how it may interact with other medications but then again, that's what the topic is and it's just normal for them to just concentrate on DMT.

I may try a very small dose that may not give me the full effects but at least I would be able to tell if I am feeling anything that I shouldn't.

he Druid

check out this thread

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=37251



So i would not combine your meds with MAOI. You sound like you have a serious pain problem and you actually need that amount of drugs to keep the pain bearable, so quitting is not a option.

My advice would be, first things first.
Start eating healthy, lose the diet bars the protein shakes and start eating some fresh vegetables combined with some lean meat. The yogurt is fine but why not ad fresh fruit to it.

Next maybe try out some freebase a low dose at first and work your way up.
And if you want to stretch out the experience you could snort it(coconut tek).

take care

Opiates can work with or against things like dmt and ayahuasca. The main difference is dependency.
A person smoking dmt with some oxycodone or hydrocodone can be quite enjoyable and relaxing but is not the same thing as a person using dmt with an opiate dependency, such as your case.

I happen to have a fair amount of personal experience both ways.

You are on a very high dosage and this will effect things quite a bit as well as add much danger, but dmt freebase will still work on you. It doesnt stop the effects just alters them. IME, when I was dependent on oxycodone, about 60mg a day the effects were foggy and dummed down. Break throughs were difficult yet possible. Mis fires were more common and almost the norm some periods.

Obviously you have to manage your pain and nobody replying so far is a doctor but opiates absolutely create a fog you walk through in life. Its impossible to notice until you are out of the fog so denialism of this fact is quite common. This fogginess also is present in hyperspace. I know it was for me.

I have seen the opionoid entity with ayahuasca. Its much different than the opiate or poppy spirit, which is in a way also a plant teacher as opionoids are synthetic. It was probably the scariest entity I have seen in hyperspace. It didn't do anything to me but its presence was very discomforting.


After that I made sure I flushed my system out for at least a few days before ceremony and just dealt with the pain of a torn rotator cuff.

Tramadol is especially dangerous to mix with harmalas so if you are taking them for nerve pain DO NOT use maoi's.
I would strongly advise you to not use any maoi's while on your current dose of pain medications.

Like others have said, opioids and ayahuasca are a big no-no. Harmala alkaloids act directly on the metabolites that breakdown oxycodone and other opiate/opioids, so the combination could very easily kill you.

I also have quite a bit of experience with combining DMT with oxycodone and other opiates/opioids. It will not cause an interaction that is dangerous to your health, but like olympus said, it could certainly affect your experience. This is especially true with high doses of DMT.

Personally, vaporizing DMT freebase was/is an essential tool in breaking my opiate dependency. But my case may have been different than yours, as I was well aware that I was in the depths of a serious psychological addiction, as well as physical dependency.