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#1761 Posted : 9/3/2013 4:44:43 PM

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#1762 Posted : 9/3/2013 4:59:56 PM

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great just want to fortify my ayahuasca a little bit,Very happy

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#1763 Posted : 9/3/2013 6:28:29 PM
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#1764 Posted : 9/5/2013 10:48:21 AM

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I have a question regarding tao of the rue extraction. In step 9 you do the manske and have harmala HCL but why is there another basing in step 11?
I mean why even do the HCL steps when you are basing it again? Is the HCL safe to consume after step 10 ?


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#1765 Posted : 9/6/2013 9:09:25 AM

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Caapi vine gibrans tek. Extraction is now settling for 14h and the alkaloid count in the bottom of the jar is a joke...
I filtered thought coffee filters to get it ready for basing.
I did cook with acid for 3x1h, it is white vine and 125g of it.

i would estimate maybe 50mg or less in the jar out of 125g of vine.

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#1766 Posted : 9/7/2013 10:04:12 PM
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#1767 Posted : 9/8/2013 1:25:43 PM

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spice-elf wrote:
hello all! Smile I'm just about to finish my first QT Tek extraktion. but the evaporation of the naphta makes some trouble... after some days, all the naphta had evaporated, but a thin, wet film was left. this film stayed for several days. now after some more days (finally! i already got worried something was wrong...) this film has slowly changed to some very wet crystals. when you scrape them together its a yellow goo. Now i wonder why it takes so long to evaporate, since its nearly no naphta left. is there anything you can do to speed up evaporation process? or is it normal that the last rest of the naphta takes quite a while to evaporate? best regards, Spice-Elf


maybe the lye or it could be something in the bark that leaves the residue?
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#1768 Posted : 9/12/2013 1:28:51 PM

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Yellow means it could be tannins or NMT try searching the goo questions sticky..
 
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#1769 Posted : 10/2/2013 12:55:27 AM

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Hi I'm doing a Rue Extraction right now and have run into problems during the Manske step. Here's a link to the thread I started on it https://www.dmt-nexus.me...=490811&#post490811. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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#1770 Posted : 10/6/2013 8:31:01 PM

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just a quick question but one i can't know the answer to in advance. appreciate any thoughts. do all teks involve working with and near strong smelling chemical and concentrated naturai odours? if you wanted to go odour free could you? could the odours be avoided by simply doing it outside? hypothetically speaking? Wut?
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#1771 Posted : 10/6/2013 8:42:26 PM
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thecrystalkid wrote:
just a quick question but one i can't know the answer to in advance. appreciate any thoughts. do all teks involve working with and near strong smelling chemical and concentrated naturai odours? if you wanted to go odour free could you? could the odours be avoided by simply doing it outside? hypothetically speaking? Wut?


Pretty much all teks are going to involve at least one chemical with a smell. If you aren't living in a situation where you can extract inside it is better just to be patient until your situation allows an extraction.

Theoretically your NPS wouldn't smell that bad as long as you weren't evaporating it but I'm kinda getting the vibe you wanna extract someplace where the owners wouldn't be cool it. Patience truly is a virtue.
 
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#1772 Posted : 10/6/2013 8:49:52 PM

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hi, thanks for replying. i have multiple chemical sensitivity so its physically difficult for me to be around any strong odour. i believe i can get round it, one way or another, maybe even a helping stir from a friend. outside with a fan could work too Surprised
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#1773 Posted : 10/6/2013 9:01:08 PM

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You could probably do something like the hippie salad oil tek using citric or fumaric or ascorbic acid instead of vinegar, and then there wouldn`t be much smell. You can do the final step with IPA or ethanol (are you also sensitive to alcohol smell?), or you could do something like amor fati`s fumarate clean up which uses water to wash away non-dmt ingredients instead of alcohols or acetone to pick up the DMT and leave non-actives behind.
 
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#1774 Posted : 10/6/2013 9:31:28 PM

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thanks for replying, i think thats one i haven't had a good look at so will.

i would find it difficult to be in my kitchen with either a strong vinegar or alcohol smell for more than a few mins i have two windows and sometimes do stuff by the window with a fan on it so it goes straight outdoors. i was kinda thinking i could just have a jar outside and lazyman it though i'm thinking i'm not gunna be able to avoid the lye even that way. i need to have a more indepth look at the eco teks, ive read a few but the lazyman appealed ..thanks for your input, appreciated
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#1775 Posted : 10/9/2013 10:55:58 AM
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Hej folks,

'hello' from a new member!

Next week I'll extract DMT for the first time and need someone experienced to take a look at my setup/questions to avoid mistakes.

I want to basically follow "The DMT Handbook", but with some inevitable changes that lead to questions:

1. I can only use MHRB-Powder - do I really have to cook it in pH4-acid 1.5 hours or would it be enough to just boil it, let it soak over night and then boil it again to gain the right temperature for basification?

2. What should I use to filtrate the powder? Powder is always a pain in the ass to get rid of out of liquids. Is a filtration needed anyways or could I just leave the powder in the basificated liquid, then add the unpolar solvent, shake and proceed etc.?

3. In my country you can't buy such thing as "solvent naphtha". So I bought Petroleum ether.
Will it work or should I buy something else e.g. Zippo-fluid?

4. I'm a very experienced mushroom grower, so I know that technics and procedures change over the time, people develope new things or change details.
How about the "DMT Handbook". Is it still up to date? Should I know something important that is not mentioned in the pdf?


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#1776 Posted : 10/9/2013 11:52:26 AM

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Hi Dalysidikas,

1. The more you boil the the more the boils the better the yield; you can very well do as you wrote, but it will take more of these boil-then-leave-overnight cycles you suggest. I have extracted dmt (retrieving ~75% the total yield) with just room temperature water and many, week-long soaks.

2. a cotton t-shirt or a muslin cloth folded 3-4 times will do the job. Yes it is laborious and there will be particles left that can be left to settle overnight after which point you can decant the particle-free water. Basifying in the presence of few particles is not the end of the world - actually in the STB teks there is TONS of particles. I'd suggest if that's your first time to go with a tek like Noman's or Cyb's Max Ion tek that do not require these filtrations.

3. Petroleum ether and zippo fluid will both work fine. just make sure they evap cleanly.

4. The DMT handbook is not really up-to-date but it is still good. I'd suggest that you rtead a few different teks and go with the one you feel most comfortable with and the whose steps you understand fully.




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#1777 Posted : 10/11/2013 7:12:58 AM
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Is it okay to evaporate xylene or naphtha in an aluminum container?
 
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#1778 Posted : 10/17/2013 4:28:10 PM
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Infundibulum wrote:
Hi Dalysidikas,

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Thanks for your answer!

I've been reading more and the lots of possibilities and teks confused me a little, so I deceided to stay simple and try Lazyman's with:
100g MHRB(powder), 600ml water, 100g NaOH and 200ml petroleum ether(evaps without residue, I checked).
The solvent separates well from the black mixture after shaking, I shake the jar every two or three hours.
I use a syringe to siphone the solvent out of the jar. Works fine.
My freezer is ready, but I have to wait a couple more days until I have enough solvent.
 
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#1779 Posted : 10/18/2013 10:52:20 PM
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so i have a question i used q21q21 tek i did a few pulls using vm&p made sure it was warm but never to hot evap the solvent in a crock pot on low with a exhaust window fan by it worked great had a yellowish to chalcky white crystal like substance left after it all evap a decent amount maybe2-3 grams but i cant seems to get much a trip from it i feel a little uplifted but no visuals any advice im not sure if doing the sandwich way to smoke is working
 
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#1780 Posted : 10/18/2013 11:08:08 PM
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i used 100ml water 100ml vinger both heated to boiling with rootbark grinded down in it after two hours i added 14 grams of lime (calcium hydroxide) turned heat off stirred got to a thick consistency and let sit for hour. then i added vm&p to it and since mix was hot i didnt heat vm&p my mash was plenty warm.....swirled every so many hours till day past then i poured off solvent into crockpot and put on low this was result
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