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vineseeker
#1 Posted : 10/3/2013 12:54:00 PM

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Lets just say I had a recent trip which was just infinitely strong. I work shamanically and had put more energetic power in this lsd batch and this made it almost too strong...
So lsd can be spiritual if clean and if you have the right intensions but as powerful tools go it can be equally bad in the wrong hands. Now with this on the 0 level on the matrix in my little trip, it became perfectly clear that one has a tremendous responsibility when doing an trip for others and just "giving" it away is pretty savage. Since I always acted like this and will act like this, it was all good and the trip was perfect for everyone there.
I will do my shamanical work with lsd as powerful tool but with much respect.

Now since this was a trip on the 0 level, it happened just like that and in this trip, the agents acted in this trip to protect.. I will not lie to you about it, the agents started their work at this moment in time, for the protection of people who do not know what they are dealing with. Pretty intense when the trip melts with reality and it actually happens.

To make it short if you do not act responsible with these things you will suffer real consequences in the real world in real time. be responsible.
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#2 Posted : 10/3/2013 1:11:06 PM

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LSD, compared with Natural psychedelics, for me anyway, is far less euphoric and loving. Also, tripping for 10+ hours leaves me incredibly fatigued (both physically and mentally).

If you are on the path to becoming a shaman, use entheogens provided by nature. Nature is the best healer.

But I totally agree with you, 'giving away' psychedelics is savage, and could deal significant psychological harm to someone who doesn't know what they're dealing with.
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#3 Posted : 10/3/2013 1:14:58 PM

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What does "trip on the 0 level" mean? and what exactly negative occurrence happened to you specifically from taking so much LSD?
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vineseeker
#4 Posted : 10/3/2013 5:18:28 PM

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What does "trip on the 0 level" mean? and what exactly negative occurrence happened to you specifically from taking so much LSD?


It means exactly what I said. But to make it more clear.

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The word zero came via French zéro from Venetian zero, which (together with cypher) came via Italian zefiro from Arabic صفر, ṣafira = "it was empty", ṣifr = "zero", "nothing". This was a translation of the Sanskrit word shoonya (śūnya), meaning "empty". The first known English use was in 1598.
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#5 Posted : 10/3/2013 5:30:39 PM

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vineseeker wrote:
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What does "trip on the 0 level" mean? and what exactly negative occurrence happened to you specifically from taking so much LSD?


It means exactly what I said. But to make it more clear.

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The word zero came via French zéro from Venetian zero, which (together with cypher) came via Italian zefiro from Arabic صفر, ṣafira = "it was empty", ṣifr = "zero", "nothing". This was a translation of the Sanskrit word shoonya (śūnya), meaning "empty". The first known English use was in 1598.


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I can see the sarcasm in your post, but I don´t understand why.
 
The Traveler
#6 Posted : 10/3/2013 6:20:16 PM

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When I once took a huge dose of acid I 'zoomed in' until there was no more zooming in possible. Back to the basic set of existance, back to the single wave that started it all, the end.

At that point I felt being back to something that you might describe as '0', anything less and I would stop existing, a horrible and at the same time fascinating experience.

It might be that this '0' is as hard to explain to people who never went there as it is to explain hyperspace to layman.


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vineseeker
#7 Posted : 10/3/2013 6:28:19 PM

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no sarcasm but I will not try to explain that 0 because I cant. 0=nothingness

A master would say
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With your Gross eyes, you see everything external. Behind this external aspect, there is not merely a spaceless void, but also pure nothingness. When you experience this pure nothingness, you will see how it has come out of the Everything - and this Everything is within you. When this experience is gained, the faculty of wanting nothing is developed, and you begin to experience it.


Also that 0 level is closely related to the buddhist concept of Nirwana.

hope this clears it up a bit.

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#8 Posted : 10/4/2013 4:28:43 AM

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vineseeker wrote:
I work shamanically and had put more energetic power in this lsd batch and this made it almost too strong...

I'm kind of confused by your post.. especially that part. You aren't saying you literally made this lsd are you? Or do you mean you did some kind of spiritual thing with it before taking it.... that you didn't actually make it. Because not just anyone can make it lol. But I agree, be responsible. Smile
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vineseeker
#9 Posted : 10/4/2013 10:53:13 AM

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Big grin cid showed me, I can make it but to answer your question. NO I didnt.
But what I did was equally powerful multiplying effects threefold Big grin
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#10 Posted : 10/4/2013 10:57:28 AM

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what did you do?
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#11 Posted : 10/4/2013 11:56:21 AM

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I don't get it either, but it seems that it's not THAT uncommon with LSD chemists. There are quite a few rocket scientists around too Smile
 
vineseeker
#12 Posted : 10/4/2013 5:30:41 PM

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To make it short I invited spirit allies to join forces with the lsd in ceremony. And laid some energy on that lsd blotter in the last lsd ceremony. I didnt expect nirvana so quick at all..Laughing
Just imagine you get the dmt world and visuals on an 300mic lsd trip on top without taking it and all of this with crystal clear clarity without losing any of the lsd aspects in the trip. Smile
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#13 Posted : 12/21/2013 7:09:08 PM

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vineseeker wrote:
To make it short I invited spirit allies to join forces with the lsd in ceremony. And laid some energy on that lsd blotter in the last lsd ceremony. I didnt expect nirvana so quick at all..Laughing
Just imagine you get the dmt world and visuals on an 300mic lsd trip on top without taking it and all of this with crystal clear clarity without losing any of the lsd aspects in the trip. Smile

I did this about a week ago and the dmt turned on me so hard i took the last hit and it felt like my teeth shattered and i was stuck in a trip swallowing my teeth it was scary as hell.
please dont take anything i say seriously im extremely irresponsible and i apologize in advance for anything iv said.
 
 
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