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How long to drive a car after DMT? Options
 
AlGreen
#1 Posted : 9/30/2013 5:44:06 PM
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Trying to find out what impairments hang around after a trip, and how long they last.

I've read how short the trips are - the problem is drugs like Ketamine also have a short trip but I know the body load and head fog of K can keep you from being full functional for hours afterward.

In the case of DMT, how long before you can appear sober, get work done, or even drive a car?

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#2 Posted : 9/30/2013 6:30:37 PM

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I usually get the adrenaline shakes and diminished fine motor control for about an hour and then im fine to ride my motorcycle. This depends on dosage though.
 
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#3 Posted : 9/30/2013 7:28:14 PM

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In my limited experience, it is less about motor control, and more about a general sense of vulnerability. After a recent all day experience, I was invited out to dinner at a quiet restaurant in my neighborhood with people I trust, but I had to politely decline. I was mentally fatigued, in need of sleep, and at risk for talking about things that might sound strange to the inexperienced. In fact, the compulsion to speak openly and freely is possibly the most problematic aspect of the lasting (sober) afterglow, (for myself).

Until you rest your mind and body, concentration and decision making WILL be affected. You are vulnerable until you give your body and mind time to rest and readjust back to our very strange place of existence we call reality.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/30/2013 8:50:46 PM

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Warrior wrote:
In my limited experience, it is less about motor control, and more about a general sense of vulnerability. After a recent all day experience, I was invited out to dinner at a quiet restaurant in my neighborhood with people I trust, but I had to politely decline. I was mentally fatigued, in need of sleep, and at risk for talking about things that might sound strange to the inexperienced. In fact, the compulsion to speak openly and freely is possibly the most problematic aspect of the lasting (sober) afterglow, (for myself).

Until you rest your mind and body, concentration and decision making WILL be affected. You are vulnerable until you give your body and mind time to rest and readjust back to our very strange place of existence we call reality.


You should not restrain yourself from talking openly and freely Thumbs up
 
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#5 Posted : 9/30/2013 9:59:53 PM

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ymer wrote:
Warrior wrote:
In my limited experience, it is less about motor control, and more about a general sense of vulnerability. After a recent all day experience, I was invited out to dinner at a quiet restaurant in my neighborhood with people I trust, but I had to politely decline. I was mentally fatigued, in need of sleep, and at risk for talking about things that might sound strange to the inexperienced. In fact, the compulsion to speak openly and freely is possibly the most problematic aspect of the lasting (sober) afterglow, (for myself).

Until you rest your mind and body, concentration and decision making WILL be affected. You are vulnerable until you give your body and mind time to rest and readjust back to our very strange place of existence we call reality.


You should not restrain yourself from talking openly and freely Thumbs up


Pardon me if I'm missing a hint of sarcasm, but I personally have the added burden of integrating my experiences into a life previously assisted by psychiatric therapy, to stave off severely debilitating depression, irrational, baseless fears of life, and periodic increases in energy and motivation--which some people in my life only associate with destructive life decision making. In order to maintain the confidence of friends and family, it is important to remain humble and grounded. Talking to the waitress about my expanding kingdom of personal growth, and how the food she serves me aids the slow process might set off alarm bells for even some people I "trust."

Could you elaborate more? Perhaps you are referencing the baseless, irrational fear issue all blinded human primates carry with them to some degree?

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#6 Posted : 9/30/2013 10:36:41 PM

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ROA (route of administration) plays a large role in the duration of the experience as well as the after effects.
In my experience vaped DMT usually lasts for a maximum of 30 minutes with slight after effects spanning to a max of about 50 minutes.
Your pupils will be largely dilated for a while, so to avoid altercations at work or with family it would be smart to give it a full hour. If that does not bother you I have found driving a car is manageable right after you come down. But beware that the emotional and mental effect it has on your psyche is different for everyone so use this as a vague guideline.

Integration is a big part of the experience, making it not so cut and dry as "sober" and "altered."

Good question and be safe! Make sure you know how it effects you personally before putting yourself in a time constraint in which you must operate a vehicle.

Have a good day,

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#7 Posted : 9/30/2013 10:42:56 PM

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IME, as soon as the visuals fade.

i have ridden a bicycle with lingering faint OEVs from changa, and there was no noticeable impairment.

and when i practice nunchaku on changa (Which takes a fair amount of motor skills) there is no significant impairment.. if anything improvement (assuming i am not out deep - but you shouldn't be driving on changa as it stands anyways)
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#8 Posted : 9/30/2013 11:36:18 PM

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30 minutes after is ok for me usually but if I have to drive or ride 20 minutes also may be ok.And there's not any smilarity between DMT and Ketamine body load and after effects.I cannot say DMT has any after effects when compare to Ketamine.

By the way I think Ketamine is one of the most dangerous things for driving,it slows you very much; DMT is opposite.
 
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#9 Posted : 10/2/2013 2:06:39 AM

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I had a weird experience once that is somewhat pertinent. Once I headed to a bar while still experiencing a bit of an after glow and as usual took shot of whiskey before I left. This led to a strange transition where I didn't feel completely free from the DMT for another hour.

So I guess the moral is just beware of adding anything into the mix before you're completely back to baseline or you may be in a weird state for awhile.
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#10 Posted : 10/2/2013 3:01:09 AM

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As someone who has tripped roughly 100-200 times on Ketamine, I can say it is one of the most dangerous drugs to drive on. You are effected for the next 8-16 hours afterwards.
It drastically effects your perception of distance, whilst giving you the impression that things are perfectly fine.
In my experience, you'd be fine to drive after 30 minutes from taking the DMT, but give it an hour to be safe.
The effects just cut-off, rather than a typical taper that you get from other substances.
That's assuming you aren't using harmala's, if you are, i`d go with leaving it 8-16 hours, as harmalas can mess up your perephrial vision...making an added noise to your vision ...ESPECIALLY in night-driving.
 
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#11 Posted : 10/3/2013 4:50:13 PM
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^ Shit dude, ketamine is no doubt one of the most dangerous drugs to do ANYTHING (other than remain in your bed) on, let alone drive. Even once you're back to plateau you're wobbly.

I'm sure you could drive perfectly well 5 or so minutes prior to reentry, but I'd leave 30 minutes+ just to be on the safe side.
 
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#12 Posted : 10/3/2013 4:52:40 PM

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at least twice as long as you think you need, and then some more.
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#13 Posted : 10/3/2013 7:52:53 PM

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If you are in a scenario in which you are going to ingest or vaporize DMT you shouldn't have to be thinking about driving. IME it is best to take a psychedelic substance when you have enough time not to worry. I would say at least 24 hours to be safe given there are no negative overwhelming unexpected physical or psychological problems that follow the experience. Smile

If you would rather not wait 24+ hours it would be practical to take DMT at a time where you have 24+ hours, gauge your mental and motor functions when you stop having visuals, and go from there for future reference. IME it only takes about an hour but everyone is vastly different.

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#14 Posted : 10/3/2013 8:12:07 PM

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march wrote:

By the way I think Ketamine is one of the most dangerous things for driving,it slows you very much; DMT is opposite.

I have to disagree with this along with a lot of the other statements about Ketamine in this thread but only because of my strange brain.
I find time and time again that Ketamine (and many of K's cousins) has a profound positive effect on my motivation, feeling sharper as well as being in tuned with whatever I am focusing on. I've never encountered problems while functioning on K in any capacity (talking, walking, driving etc.)

While I know this is far from the norm I figured I would share my bizarre reaction to dissociative anaesthetics.


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