Hi fellow dmt-nexus friends, I have been around here (long time reader) for along time...I have put in my dues reading here for years....been around mostly mescaline for 8 years now, I'm an old timer very familiar with mescaline and LSD (hundreds of trips) and only recently began to experiment again with home-made pharmahuasca brews, the reason being because a friend gave me in dreams nearly 2 grams of dmt...i only like to use it orally however...and what an experience it has been recently as I combined it with harmine freebase I had sitting around, along with some 5 year old THH I had as well, put the three together and it is something I hope to continue to experience for a long while, super good stuff, the visuals are un-paralled, and if you keep the dose of harmine low, and throw in about 25% THH, there is very little to no nausea (my low dose harmine/thh have had no nausea yet for me anyways...unlike my higher dose harmine only brews) yet an incredibly visual trip with a very positive vibe (only so long as the THH is in there) imho.
Please see the end of this posting (experiment #4 on down) where I determined that for myself, 70mg of harmine freebase + 30mg tetrahydroharmine (THH) + 25 to 50mg of dmt is a very incredible no nausea yet extremely beautiful and out of this world visual trip.
The whole point of this essay is how I discovered that for myself THH was the "missing ingredient" in my pharmahuasca brews, that not only doubled the half-life of the dmt in the brain before it got "zapped" by the synapses (just as other researchers have determined)...but it caused the CEV's to become brightly colored just like firework colors, the trip became very "uplifing" instead of "dark" like harmine-only brews, and the trip took on a very mystical positive vibe...it was "the full monty" in other words....a harmine + dmt brew does not compare in quality imho to a harmine + thh + dmt brew...which is 1000 times better....and it only makes sense to me thinking about it now as THH typically makes up 22+% of caapi alkaloids...however THH is not found in peganum harmala.
Here is how I arrived at that conclusion (for my body weight of 190lbs) anyway for a several week period of personal experiments which I now happily share and hope to learn more from my fellow dmt-nexus friends....
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A friend gifted me a small bottle of dmt from 6 year old mimosa...
I took 35mg THH about 2 hours before, then took 100mg harmine along with 50mg of the pasty looking white dmt (paste) not xtals.
30 minutes later, I could not believe what I was seeing with closed eyes, turned out all the lights, put a face mask on, saw beautiful brightly lit things of incredible precision, color, magic..i've never seen anything like this on 4-aco-dmt...this "light" ayahuasca felt good in the body, and I could close me eyes and watch 2 hours worth of different worlds...
I saw islands with wood statues, then historical figures throughout time...black people, fantastic kaleidoscopes of flowers constantly on the move, all brightly lit, then just dmt magic visuals..the patterns were stunning...i would have to take over 6 hits of acid to get visuals like this!
wow, ayahuaca was a real treat this time!!! I loved it, the most visual psychedelic i've ever taken in my life!! :clap: :clap: :clap:
This all happened 8 hours after my 200mg mescaline trip ended...just goes to show the power of ayahuasca, very incredible magic.
I LOVE AYAHuasca.
There was no nausea the entire time, it helped that I used a low dose of harmine 100mg, normal dose is usually around 200mg.
This lower dose of harmine, but bigger dose of dmt, had no nausea, just incredible cev's for a couple hours...outstanding...recommend to others highly if given the chance....
waking up this morning 7 hours later, I still cannot believe the things I saw! Walt Disney animation has nothing on these CEV's, constantly on the move, I saw thousands upon thousands of different things....at first there were hundreds of on the move visuals, they would form patterns, which transformed into nude women spread eagle, which transformed into ancient cities with people on the go, with fantasy scenes with colors like fireworks, way beyond anything computer animation could ever do, technology has nothing on this "jungle TV"...for 20 minutes there were super bright images, then I felt an ancient alient prescence scan my brain for about 5 minutes,
It probed my thoughts, then 5 minutes later had me go into bathroom and take a crap, then back to the bed, after taking the crap I felt super amazing, then the images started up again, this time with super wild patterns always on the go, with thousands of intricate details beyond my wildest dreams, these images blew away anthing I've ever seen on mushrooms, super golden brilliant colors with thousands of details that begot millions of intricate scenes, I could not keep up with the beautiful artwork, images made by artist do not compare to the brilliance, like fantasy worlds of images that had me ooohing and ahhhing, immaculate artwork with futuristic and past scenes in one, incredible is the word, no words can describe the constant movie of thousands of colors, LSD at the highest levels never had visuals like this...this is serious fun art brilliance with millions of colored details !!!
There was a theme to it all, carousels of scenes with beautiful people all involved in situations from the distant future and the distant past and fantasy beyond my wildest dreams...who is creating this stuff? where is it coming from? why is it so brilliant? where do all these perfect forms come from, like looking at the back of a high resolution deck of cards with brilliant artwork on each one, all different on each card, flowing from the heavens transforming into animals and people and architecture all together...TV has nothing on this...every now and then I could make out an audial high carrier frequency, i heard sounds that were not there, clicks and pops and musical tones every now and then.....how can each second scene have super high resolution with hundreds of colors? every shade of color, every shade of color not ever even seen before? only nature and the heavens have color like this, nothing man made.
This went on for 2 full hours, on other psychedelics the visuals this strong would be over in 20 minutes, but not this stuff, 2 full hours of beauty beyond words, like a huge coffee art table book....seeing it all NOT static but animated, every single microseconds of it, animated on the move, standing still for no one....precision animation, all hundreds of pages of it in 2 hours, thousands upon thousands of immaculate fine resolution detail, I never knew the mind had it possible, now I know where all the world's artwork comes from....you can see anything and everyone and everyplace and every fantasy with ayahuasca, it told me to "sit still" and watch this son....It was a female prescence, it was "the other" controlling the trip from behind the scenes for me, pressing all the right buttons to show me what a real visual teaching psychedelic was !!!! good gosh !!! :whew: :whew: :whew:
I had purchased 8 tiny bottles of "pure freebase harmine hcl" made/extracted from "caapi" said the source about 5 years ago, and never really used it until now.....the combination of pure ingredients had no nausea for me, I was like a child seeing for the first time, able to see like a spirit in Heaven, I saw "perfect worlds" way beyond what this world has to offer....a visual as defined by dmt and harmine is a visual truly beyond words!!! It's like all the world's greatest artist got together and drew thousands of scenes each with millions of details, TV has nothing on this, jungle TV is where it is at. :clap: :clap: :clap:
This harmine freebase came from a place called "******* *******" many many years ago, just a brown freebase powder I measured out on a scale, then poured in the dmt paste crystals on top of it, then swallowed it with water and a bit of milk and potatoe chips to make sure it would not get trapped in the liver....I was blown away, this is truly the "food of the Gods".
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The best part this morning is that I feel "super refreshed", better than I felt before taking the sacrement, like my brain has been reset, like I went on a super special trip to the most magical place ever created....why did it take me this long to experience this brilliance? I read disregardeverythingIsay website on harmine and ayahuasca which got me interested...then read some harmine hcl reports on erowid, then my curiosity was up...then it really happened for me, a visual and mental blessing of 100% peace and awe.
I have to admit I was a bit scared for the 5 minutes the "other" scanned my brain and probed my thoughts....but this only lasted a few minutes, then it returned me to a visual world that was way beyond what it was first showing me, it "knew" I could handle it so long as I remained still and let it teach me....it knew what to show me to grab my full attention, I could not look away for the next hour.
Pic of 1530mg of dmt extracted from 5 year old mimosa:
At one point, I went into my room and put on headphones and listened to music...it sounded incredibly beautiful, since it was late I only listened for a little while, then went back to lie down with face mask over eyes and watched the visuals.
I agree with what Shannon saids here (page 183):
Quote:An effect that borders between the sensory and the interpretative is that of beautification. With Ayahuasca, music
sounds immensely beautiful. One's perception of minute aspects of the music is heightened and it often sounds--literally--heavenly.
Page 190:
Quote:Under Ayahuasca, the external world is perceived to be both richer and more beautiful than it normally appears to be.
Although I spent most of my time in the dark, when I did walk into light, the outer world did appear very very rich and beautiful, agree.
35mg thh before hand then 100mg harmine freebase + 50mg dmt paste was the most visual trip i've ever had, firework colored cev's for 2 hours straight while being relatively sober. Once you figure out the dosage you like, since using pre-measured xtals and freebase xtals, you can re-duplicate the awesome visual trips over and over again...and there is no nausea...unlike the wildly unpredictable traditional ayahuasca...i learned this from sync and meteor at the old aya forum...using pure harmine to them was no different than the caapi they used for years...and they also experienced no nausea and had wildly visual trips. They used pure harmine hcl or freebase along with vacuum filtered and fridge collection (of any sediment on the bottom) of potent psychotria viridis, Hawaiian psychotria is very potent as is mimosa....peruvian psychotria is not so potent imho.
I took a chance this time and seriously lowered the harmine dosage, even 80mg is enough for me to get serious visuals with enough dmt....it takes about 30 to 40 minutes for the effects to kick in....I am seriously impressed with the combination, I never knew such high resolution non-stop ever changing visual movies were even possible.
The trip went like this: after 30 minutes the effects kicked in, I had about 20 minutes of great CEV's, as bright as firework colors, then for 5 minutes the visuals stopped as "the other" probed my brain and body, a "scan" it did, during this time I thought I had "died" and thought my "heart had stopped" I went and took a crap, and felt my heart, and it was fine, I had only felt like it had stopped, I went back to lie down, and then felt "sober" again, the entity or "other" then told me it would resume with the visuals, for the next 1.5 hours, I watched as the visuals grew even more intense and more super-firework-colored, and even more outstanding, this time, I saw complete movies of images with thousands of spectacular colors, hundreds of impossible images, there was a theme to it all, and I learned alot and was very entertained....no words can describe the things I saw, one of the most incredible experiences of my life.
I saw a really good extraction of acacia at the dmt nexus forum by joshisom recently too...he did a/b, 1.45 hour of boil, 11 steps of shaking, he got solid xtals at the end...some people ended up with goo, but depended on the bark he said, but the goo could be cleaned up with re-xtal.
my diet doesn't seem to affect the aya at all...harmine is a RIMA and does not have the strict food diet requirements as harmaline (maoi)....on RIMA, just avoid wine, caffeine, stimulant drugs, ssri's, stuff like that...on RIMA, tyramine and harmine both compete for the same spot, so one will displace the other, no problems. I even experimented with taking around 400mg of THH and ate cheesecake, etc. had no problems.
it's when I take a higher dose of harmine (>140 to 160mg) that I get nauseous and it no longer becomes fun for me.
*** For example, last night, I took 160mg of harmine freebase and 40mg dmt, and the visuals were not as impressive as the 1st time that I took 100mg of harmine + 50mg dmt. With the 160mg of harmine + 40mg dmt, I did not like the feeling at all, too nauseating, too strong, things on my bed began to disappear, with closed eyes the visual "field" expanded way beyond my field of vision (like a really big screen the size of a wall) but the visuals were only "so--so" still colorful and what not, but I kept telling the aya that "i did not understand" the visuals this time, it was sort of menacing to me...and the body feeling was crappy most of the time
Last night I felt nausea from it as the harmine dose became up there...I much prefer the 100mg harmine dose with "more dmt"...as I feel pretty much "sober" while having extremely colorful and very high resolution very bright visuals...I stay in bed yet I can move around easily if I really want to...with the 160mg + of harmine + dmt, it became too "mushroom like"...my body felt very sedated to the point of laziness (and it had a nasty 4-aco-dmt like sedated body buzz which I absolutely hate), I was over the toilet several times trying to throw up, but could not....body felt mostly "bad" alot of the time with periods of feeling well, alternating with feelings of badness....did not like. I don't like high dose harmine, it really turns me off. I much prefer lower doses of harmine with a good dose of dmt say 30mg to 50mg....great visuals and mostly "sober", feels nice.
In "Pharmacotheon" by Jonathan ott, he talks about taking 120mg of harmine freebase (which is around what i like to use) along with 35mg of dmt, and it felt to him like about "half the dose of what smoked dmt is like at that dosage"...when he took 160mg of harmine freebase with 40mg dmt, it was pretty intense for him...I concur that that 100mg of harmine with 40 to (around 50mg dmt) (for me)...is what I very much like. I get all the visions that Benny Shannon talks about in "Antipodes of the mind" with the 100mg harmine freebase + 50mg of dmt...but I don't get so $%!% up that I can't walk and think properly, and feel bad, instead I feel "sober", and "with it", and have mostly a very good time (except for the 5 minutes where I felt I was being "probed" lol, but even that was "not really scary" just really unusual for a few minutes to me)...in the future I will try even lower doses of dmt to see what happens...like 30 to 40mg even.
I was walking around in a bookstore today in the magazine section, and saw a magazine called "island living" or something like that, which had pictures inside of teekee's which looked like what I saw in my aya visions in the beginning of the 2 hour visual session with closed eyes, all the visuals were colored like firework colors, very colorful and super high resolution and moved and changed just like a fast moving motion picture, from image to image all morphing and transforming into new images, mesmarizing to the nth degree! (this was on the 100mg harmine freebase dose)...I did not have any nausea on that trip, it just made me take a crap, that was all, after which I felt 100%, felt about 80% before that, aya seems to always want you to either take a crap or something like that to prepare yourself.
Keep in mind that this dmt I am using came from a friend and it is a "goo" rather than solid xtals....so I can't really say for sure what the exact dosage of dmt is...I just measure the "goo" out onto a scale...but I do know the exact dosage of the brown harmine freebase.
Page 229 of Pharmacotheon:
Quote:The 40mg of B-carbolines contained in the average Rio Purus potion
is sufficient to render orally-active the 25mg of DMT present.
The obvious corollary to this is the observation that the Rio
Purus ayahuasqueros were, in fact, seeking the effect of the DMT
in the potion, and extracted only enough of the B-carbolines to render
the DMT orally-active. 36mg, 25mg and 26.5mg were average amounts of
dmt found in a sample of brews taken from a region.
Harmine is some potent stuff, I would not be surprised if as little as 60mg
of harmine freebase would be plenty enough to activate 40mg of dmt. I also
prefer a brew which uses low amounts of harmine, as there is no nausea yet
all the color and visuals of dmt, very very little "mindfuck", and a sober-like
setting during the 2 to 3 hours...easy to ride out, If I were to again
have to take 160mg of harmine, I would rather not, and prefer just not to
partake of it, to me high dose harmine is not worth the torture.
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Ran some experiments last night and determined that 40mg, 60mg, 80mg of harmine freebase is not enough from me to achieve activation of dmt....my body weight (190lbs) requires 100 to 120mg of harmine freebase (120mg harmine freebase is equivalent to 141mg of harmine hcl) to activate dmt orally for a nice colorful flowing vision trip, I also estimate 100 to 120mg of harmine freebase to render DMT active orally with a longer duration and about half the potency of inhaled DMT vapor.
My reference for using 110mg of harmine freebase stems from this:
Pharmacotheon page 250 (Jonathan Ott):
Quote:For experiment 12, I increased the quantity of harmine hcl to 141mg (=120mg base; 1.5mg/kg), and ingested this along with 35mg dmt free-base (0.44 mg/kg). By 45 minutes after ingestion, it was obvious the dose was pschoptic, and I experienced a distinct dmt effect building to a peak at 1:05 after ingestion and maintaining a plateau until 1:50, with the effects largely dissipated by 3 hours after ingestion. this experience was of comparable intensity to experiment 6 involving ingestion of a similar amount of dmt at 30mg; (0.38mg/kg) with extract of 4g of harmel seeds, and we may conclude that 120mg of harmine (1.5mg/kg) will effect sufficient in vivo mao-inhibition to render dmt active orally with a longer duration and about half the potency of inhaled dmt vapor....in, all the experience was quite pleasant.
EXPERIMENT 3: this morning took 110mg harmine freebase, then 20 minutes later took 40mg of the dmt "paste", this paste might be about 50% pure imho, in other words 40mg of the paste might be equivalent to about 20mg pure dmt xtals, then again it could be 60+% pure, I have no idea.
Can some one tell me how to re-xtallize this "dmt goo/paste" I have, which I received from a friend? I have little experience with dmt...but lots of experience re-xtallizing many other substances....I have extracted pure see-thru translucent dmt xtals from psychotria leaf in the past however...so I'm not 100% strange to the process...it's just been a long time...at that time i had a jar of either naptha or heptane in the freezer, waited a few days, and saw the xtals xtallize at the bottom of the jar when I set it out in front of a fan overnight waiting for the solvent to evaporate to leave the xtals...if i remember right, this was a very long time ago.
I put on some music and will report back later....
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This experiment taught me the crucial importance of THH (tetrahydroharmine) to the brew...the 110mg harmine + 50mg dmt was awesome and strong except for the point that the cev's were not bright enough, and the trip was "too dark"....so half way into the trip, i added 30mg of oral THH, a researcher I read about proposes that THH extends or doubles the effective half-life of dmt in the brain before it gets "ZAPPED" by the synapses.
I completely agree with this theory, after adding the 35mg of thh, I began to feel mentally "better"...it has a feel to it like LSD, and similar to LSD, it also imparts a distictive "metallic taste" to the tongue...very metal like...in fact, every time I've taken THH, then eat even some sugary candy 30 minutes in, it takes like metal candy instead, cannot even taste the sweetness at all, just bitter metal taste.
I failed to mention that my orginal trip with harmine and dmt some week ago, i had taken a good amount of THH throughout the night, and this did most definately enhance and make the visuals with colors like fireworks...
anyhow, back to the point, after I added the THH, the trip was NO LONGER dark, and I felt much, much better, the visuals became more like those of ayahusca, and the colors intensified to the point of once again just like fireworks with my eyes closed, and I had a face eye mask on the whole time....after adding the THH, I could now clearly see the CEV's as they were super bright, and had significant meaning to them, they were fully formed high resolution images that once again flowed and merged into more higher order things....i lacked these important effects before adding the THH.
THH is VERY important imho...it does I think actually "double the half life" of dmt in the brain, the visions are much more flowing and crip and much, much brighter!!!...and the mental vibe is overwhelmingly positive (similar to LSD).
I will never again take harmine + dmt without adding 25% THH to the brew (just like caapi)..
my next experiment will be with 70mg harmine + 35mg THH in the future...I believe this combination will be nearly perfect to my liking....intense visuals without any hints of nausea or weird dark feelings....the THH imparts an effect as though "you can withstand anything, and nothing can hurt you"...it is very uplifting in the brew and gives an overall very positive flowing energy to the trip, and the visuals are doubled in intensity, meaning and brightness
Unfortunately, I am running low on THH, and only have 370mg left, but at least this is enough for another 10 to 12 trips! :clap: :clap: :clap:
*** Having 25% THH in the brew (just like caapi) keeps you going back and back again to the brew, it totally makes the trip "worth it".
p.s. I also noticed significant sound and music enhancement only after adding the THH....music became a thing of absolute beauty...this was seriously lacking before adding the THH....THH imparts a very definate Mystical universal quality.
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Experiment 4:
waited several hours then took 70mg harmine freebase + 35mg THH + 50mg dmt,
there was no nausea the whole time, but the CEV's were sooooo intense that I could not even keep my eyes closed, I had to open my eyes to keep a grip on reality, after 1/2 hour thankfully the intensity dropped down a couple notches, and with open eyes saw the beauty in all of life around me, beyond reproach...intensely beautiful....then closed my eyes again and the stuff I saw was so incredible, words do not describe...
beware too much dmt!!! I could have done with only 25mg dmt with this 70mg harmine freebase + 35mg THH....as the THH potentiates the heck out of the dmt!!!! THH is incredible...it really really brought on a fascinating incredible trip!! WOW !!!!
next time only 25mg dmt as this dose though!!! do not underestimate THH !!! it is wicked. After the brew wore off completely, I still felt very nice, this experiment had long lasting positive after effects, unlike the one's without THH. It leaves one feeling invigorated.
THH synthesis from harmaline:
Quote:Procedure: (Example) 10 grams of harmaline dissolved in 10% aqueous hydrochloric acid had zinc dust added gradually (with occasional shaking). The mixture was heated on a water bath until the yellow coloration disappeared. After filtering off any unreacted zinc, ammonium chloride was added to prevent precipitation of zinc hydroxide. Addition of ammonia caused an immediate precipitation of white material. This was shaken into Ethyl acetate; which recovered THH. (See Siddiqui et al. 1983 for their version of this procedure.) (This should also work for harmine) Siddiqui et al. 1983 reported that the addition of NH4Cl prior to basification with Ammonia increased the yield for this reaction from 50% to around 80% (by preventing the precipitation of Zinc hydroxide).
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Note to self:
Quote:In Peruvian Ayahuasca brews assayed by Dennis McKenna, harmine represented 65% of the alkaloidal fraction, tetrahydroharmine 22%, DMT 8% and harmaline only 6%. A typical dose of the combined beta-carbolines Harmine, Harmaline, and Tetrahydroharmine, in an Ayahuasca brew, has been estimated by Mckenna to be 28mg harmine, 10mg tetrahydroharmine, and 2mg harmaline. Harmaline therefore only constitutes a small proportion of the total alkaloidal makeup of ayahuasca. Yet Harmaline is the primary beta-carboline component of Syrian rue.
So, when I took 70mg of harmine and 35mg of THH, and 50mg of dmt, it felt like the dmt was "fully activated" as the effects were nearly overwhelming for the 1st 1/2 hour (the visuals especially with eyes closed were truly out of this world), until after the 1/2 hour mark when I could finally stand to view them. Next time I'll just take 70mg harmine, 30mg thh, and 25mg of dmt, so that I get great visuals but with a moderate intensity instead of super-strong intensity. I felt a constant "tryptamine buzz", the effects of which were really nice on the body...the THH made this "buzz" last constantly instead of wave like when the brew had only harmine in the past, there was no nausea either since the harmine was lower, and the thh was added, the thh doubled the half life of the dmt and make it about twice as strong, just as other researchers have found...i totally agree...not only that, but the trip was really really different than harmine only brews I had, the trip was very nice and felt like a really awesome full blown trip, with beauty all around, reminded me of very high dose LSD trips...also the "body buzz" which THH added to the brew was actually very pleasant as compared to harmine only brew buzz on the body, this "new thh added body buzz" was constant pleasant higher frequency tryptamine buzz unlike the nausea like high harmine dose only body wave in and out buzz.
so in the brew I will make next time = total alkaloid content will be harmine = 70mg, thh = 30mg, and dmt = 25mg....total alkaloids = 125mg, harmine will make up 56%, THH will make up 24%, and dmt will make up 20%.....
this matches up very nicely with the average findings from Mckenna I think.
This last brew in which I incorporated an amount of THH which is usually found in average ayahusca totally blew my mind with the visuals and the way everything looked extremely beautiful during the whole experience....the world was totally enchanting and beautiful...the CEV's were mind-blowing (too-mind blowing)...next time as stated above will only take 25mg dmt so that the intensity is more manageable...there was no nausea with the much lower harmine dose, and the THH really does DOUBLE the half-life of the dmt in the brain before it gets zapped by the synapses, just as a researcher I had read about stated about the effects of thh in the brew. I will never again take an ayahusca brew unless it always has THH in it, it makes a very huge difference...it makes the trip very uplifing, the visuals are super bright, last way longer, are extremely meaningful, very very clear, the body buzz is much better, you feel as if "nothing can hurt you" with the thh added (unlike with harmine only brew)...harmine only brews are always "dark" to me while thh added brews have a positive incredible mystical vibe to them, it's a kick ass trip...just watch it on the dmt, keep it at a good dose, but don't go overboard...25 mg would have been perfect, 50mg can really send you out there for the 1st 1/2 hour....as the THH really does double the half life of the dmt in the brain...
Experiment #1 that had 35mg of THH (at the beginning of this essay) and this last experiment #4 which had 35mg THH are the 2 best trips I've ever had on pharmahuasca...NOW I know what Benny Shannon (author of
Antipodes of the Mind) was talking about, and I've read his book from beginning to end 3 times now.
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