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withegoddess
#1 Posted : 9/22/2013 9:53:41 AM

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-AeroPress Coffee and Espresso Maker with zippered nylon tote bag and 350 Micro Filters

-OXO Good Grips Fat Separator

Amazon carries those two items. Are they safe to use for a dmt extraction? or a food safe mescaline extraction?
 

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#2 Posted : 9/22/2013 10:48:54 AM

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The AeroPress looks interesting... But it looks like the bottom part where the liquid comes out may be plastic. It could be very efficient for removing plant matter from an aqueous solution after an acid cook, if you are planning an A/B extraction. But using this to remove plant matter from non-polar solvents would not be ideal. The reason for this is that when the solvent comes out the bottom of this device, it looks like it will touch the plastic part. Non-polar solvents (even D-Limonene) can and will degrade plastic, leaving unwanted and potentially harmful impurities in your solvent, an then possibly in your final product.

For the gravy separator:
Again, it is strongly recommended that one does not use plastics when working with non-polar solvents. This would be a better option. This might be an even better option, due to the fact that it holds a much larger volume. But that might not be important, depending on what extraction you want to use it for, and on what step of said extraction that you use it.
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#3 Posted : 9/22/2013 11:03:46 AM

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Indeed, Ive seen someone spill some toluene on a usb stick eating the surrounding plastic in seconds.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/22/2013 11:41:23 AM

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Yea, now that I've looked at it some more, it looks like the whole AeroPress coffee maker is plastic. This would work really well for filtering a post-acid cook aqueous solution, but this shouldn't be used with any NP solvents. It's pretty much a pressurized, french-press version of The Herbal Percolator.
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#5 Posted : 9/22/2013 4:18:49 PM

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I have the Aeropress. It is indeed ALL plastic. It does make a great cup of coffee and ive used it in marijuana and alcohol extractions but of course no harsher solvents.The Aeropress I have is mostly used to brew a better/stronger cup of coca tea. it works way better than normal tea brewing methods. It comes out darker and stronger flavored so I assume that it is doing a better job of extracting the goodies.
 
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#6 Posted : 9/22/2013 6:46:21 PM

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Potatoe ricer !

A potatoe ricer would be perfect for getting all the remaining liquid out of the mush. They are made fully out of stainless steel. I could put a small strainer bellow it to catch any material that may fall through.

This is the one I found.. Oxo good grips potatoe ricer.

Also I will most likely be purchasing a glass gravy separator.. But was wondering if getting a separatory funnel on amazon is a better idea? Or if anyone knows where else to get one
 
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#7 Posted : 9/22/2013 8:25:30 PM

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A seperatory funnel would be more thorough. I have used both and the gravy separators work, but tend to leave a small amount of top (solvent) layer on your separated bottom (aqueous) layer, that has to then be evaporated. A separatory funnel would be a little more expensive, but if you plan on doing a fair amount of extracting in the future, they are well worth the investment. I buy most of my equipment from Pellet Lab, Home Science Tools, and occasionally eBay. They have a lot of decent- quality glassware that is very inexpensive.
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#8 Posted : 9/29/2013 1:20:36 AM

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separatory funnel on the way. thanks
 
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#9 Posted : 9/29/2013 8:43:16 AM

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I have 2 sep. funnels and im loving them.
They really work good.
Also they are not so expensive if buying ebay china stuff.
But the prizes goes up dramatically when sizes get over 1 liter.

I have one 250ml and one 1000ml.
Get the ones with teflon or PTFE stopcock as the glass stopcock ones needs to be lubricated.
The PTFE ones just work right out of the box, no lubrication needed.

I would also recommend getting a cheap vacuum filtration set.
I have this set with a 100mm buchner funnel, filter papers, heavy wall filtration flask with vacuum outlet, the rubber stopper and a hand vacuum pump with meter on.
It was not so expensive to buy and it has worked really good.
When filtrating gooey stuff it is just fantastic.
I was warned that the plastic hand vacuum pumps usually breaks down after a while but so far it is working great.
Even if the hand pump do break down it will be easy getting a small electrical pump for replacement.

The sep. funnel and the vacuum filtration set is the 2 things i certainly don't want to be without, they make everything so much easier.

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#10 Posted : 9/29/2013 1:08:58 PM

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Grower wrote:
Get the ones with teflon or PTFE stopcock as the glass stopcock ones needs to be lubricated.
The PTFE ones just work right out of the box, no lubrication needed.

I would disagree with this part. I always choose glass over plastic when working with solvents. Even PTFE or teflon, I'd rather be safe than sorry. Applying a tiny amount of high vacuum silicone grease really isn't much additional trouble to go to, in exchange for having my mind at ease with the knowledge that there are no traces of plastic in the compounds I am ingesting.

But I totally agree with the rest of the post. I have never for a second regretted the purchase of my separatory funnels and vacuum filtration set.
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#11 Posted : 9/29/2013 9:59:28 PM

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I was under the impression that these stopcocks were made with corrosive chemicals in mind and that the materials would not react with solvents, acids and others.
But you might be right about this, no plastic can withstand all chemicals.

With my smaller sep. funnel who has a glass stopcock, it has nothing holding it in place so i must use a rubber band securing it.
Maybe its just mine that are low quality.
It sticks quite good in place but it could fall out as there is no securing mechanism.
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#12 Posted : 9/30/2013 5:05:03 AM

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When is a vacuum filtration set used? for the crystals?

watched some youtube videos on vacuum filtration. gana look into getting a set.
 
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#13 Posted : 10/6/2013 10:11:38 AM

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withegoddess wrote:
When is a vacuum filtration set used? for the crystals?

watched some youtube videos on vacuum filtration. gana look into getting a set.

I mostly use my vacuum filtration set for removing plant matter (rootbark, cactus powder, etc.) from the solution after thoroughly extracting the alkaloids through several acid boils. I prefer to include this step because, in my experience, the powdered plant matter will block the drainage hole in separatory funnels. Also, a solution that has been thoroughly filtered will not form an emulsion with solvents quite as easily as one containing a bunch of plant matter.
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