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SHroomtroll
#1 Posted : 9/20/2013 11:17:56 AM

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So after smoking cannabis daily for 6months i stopped about 5weeks ago.

At first my feelings were enhanced and life felt real again, also i started dreaming again which is great.

I take zma(zinc,magnesium) every night and this is known for making your dreams really trippy also.

Anyway last night was just a endless terror with nightmares and other messed up scenarios, one with me doing a breivik (wtf?)

Also i remember waking up from one dream screaming and my gf calming me down, later she told me i do this screaming almost every night but i rarely remember.


A few years ago i was talking alot in my sleep and once i woke up thinking my gf was a demon and was close to atacking her.

Obviously i have some deep trauma that my subconsious mind is trying to let out when i sleep.


Any ideas how to move forwarf with this?
 

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SHroomtroll wrote:

I take zma(zinc,magnesium) every night and this is known for making your dreams really trippy also.


Maybe leave the ZMA away for some weeks? Or just use Z & M without the vitamin B6. I also take Z & M (without B6) and don't have intensive dreams.

Btw ZMA seems to be a rip-off body building wise:

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In 2004, a study funded by a research grant from Cytodyne (another supplement producing company) with 42 resistance trained males showed that ZMA supplementation had no significant effects on total and free testosterone, IGF-1, growth hormone, cortisol, the ratio of cortisol to testosterone, or muscle and liver enzymes in response to training. No significant effects were observed in changes in strength, upper or lower body muscle endurance, or anaerobic sprint capacity.[3]

In another study done in 2006, a team of German scientists conducted a study on the effect of ZMA and testosterone levels in the body.[4] The result showed an increase in zinc secretions in urine making it much darker like blood, but no effect on the level of testosterone in the body.

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SHroomtroll
#3 Posted : 9/21/2013 5:11:39 PM

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Actually i had skipped the zma a few nights before but i generally like the effects from them.

It makes me remember my dreams more and i feel more rested if i take them at least a few nights per week.

Also from what ive read athletes in general need more magnesium and zinc than what most people consume, with my manual labour job and daily bike rides plus sports i feel zma is a good sup for me.

Also ive searched around abit and at least domestic i cant find any cheaper source for zinc or magnesium than these tabs i take.


Anyway i dont see these dreams as a bad thing cause i think i need to experience whatever my mind is showing me.

I tripped alot last year and havent done much drugs at all this year except my cannabis binge in india.

So i guess my dreams are starting to show me stuff i was used to work through with entheogens or something.


Hopefully i will have time to do a cacti sesion sometime in the near future though, ive just cooked up alot of cuttings.
 
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#4 Posted : 9/21/2013 6:30:56 PM

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I went through something similar when I quit smoking before, its like releasing the floodgates, the dreamgates i should say. Initially you will have crazy dreams but that will subside or at least normalize with time. It did for me anyways, I still have really crazy dreams but the initial novelty that is shocking will wear off.
 
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#5 Posted : 9/21/2013 7:23:31 PM

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Hmmm... seems like multiple issues here.

1) Quitting Cannabis is a well known route towards radically increased dream recall. At least until things balance out and you return to "normal" levels. If your subconscious has been nagging at you for a while, this can be the time when it comes tumbling out of the closet on your head.

2) You probably had been dreaming this stuff for some time already and just were not recalling it and are unable to work it through in dreamtime. (which leads to =>Pleased

3) You need to get hip to some real Dreamwork. Lucid Dreaming especially could lick these issues for you pretty quick. But even just writing the dreams down and meditating on what the feelings and sensations mean for you... and how your emotional and energetic bodies respond to them will probably bring up some stuff you can work on.

4) If you are regularly screaming in your sleep and nearly attacked your GF, you have to seriously consider the possibility that you have some "dark entity" issues. At the very least, you need to address unresolved anger & fear issues. Find some way to get back to the light...

5) I can't say too much about ZMA but I am familiar with Zinc, Magnesium and B6 supplementation. I do think that all 3 are things many people can benefit from, but it is nice to be able to tailor your consumption to your current state and not just OD on them. B6 interacts with the other B's in synergy so taking too much of it with out keeping pace with increased Pantothenol, Niacin, B12 and so on is probably not a good idea. Magnesium interacts with Calcium and the other electrolytes like Potassium... A well rounded whole food vitamin and mineral supplementation is generally wiser if you don't really know what you are doing. Taking "bodybuilder" doses of any supplement is generally not the greatest idea... even IF you are young and have a "bodybuilder" body.

Anyway, ST... I wish you well. I think you will figure it out. If it continues to be rough, maybe consider going to see someone who you respect in these fields. (shaman, priest, psychologist, guru etc.)

Good luck,
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#6 Posted : 9/21/2013 7:57:56 PM

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Lets just say that before this break from cannabis ive never taken dreaming very seriously, mostly because my dreams rarely made any sense and also cause i guess ive been using psychs to much and focused all my energy on them.


About a year ago i decided to make some major changes in my life and try to resolve alot of childhood issues ive just ignored my whole life.


I feel that my dreams has finally started to make sense and i can accept whatever they show me as a part of the healing process.

Anyway if any of you guys have some links for me to read about dreamwork and how to integrate them in my overall life?


 
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#7 Posted : 9/21/2013 8:15:20 PM

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Try the excerpt here: http://www.lucidity.com/

Basically read everything there is about lucid dreaming. There are a number of books on the subject up here on the Nexus Library you should download.

As much as I love tripping, I have to say that Lucid Dreaming is the premier tool for consciousness expansion and exploration that we have.

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#8 Posted : 9/22/2013 8:26:10 PM

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The first thing you should do is talk to your girlfriend. I imagine is must be stressful to the point of traumatic to see your boyfriend (I'm making an assumption here, correct me if I'm wrong) screaming and getting almost violent.

You and she should approach this together, because, as long as you two are sleeping in the same bed, she's involved, and it would be unfair to leave her in the dark. I imagine she's really concerned for you.

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#9 Posted : 9/28/2013 4:41:01 PM

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Thanks guys gonna check this out.

Havent had any bad dreams since i wrote this but my dreams can still be weird most nights.

I feel that im close to lucidity but still have a few steps left before i can get there.

In my entire life i actually think ive only had 2lucid dreams or so.
 
 
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