Well, I haven't been on here a while, but, thought I should come back to share a little experience I had recently in regards to my mediation...



Typically, when I meditate, and, am about to hit the deeper states, I can actually see me entering a dark place. Those lights and flashes go away (when your eyes are closed), and I'm left in a dark empty place, free from thought and full of...love.Cliche but love.


This time was slightly different though. Prior to getting into that state, I saw shapes. This is the first for me. Not just small stuff either, I mean all out shapes. Diamond like patterns that changed into snowflake like.

This happened a while ago, so my memory isn't fresh, but, thought I should post it here, and perhaps one of you could find enjoyment out of it. Perhaps someone could even shed some light as to why this happened.

If the intent is for meditation, then also meditate on the shapes. Unattached witnessing, just let them come and go as they please, and if anything else pops up let that come and go as well, why ask why?


....everything just is

When meditation try to look at a light(lighted window ,sun,etc) for a little while after that close your eyes,and you will see a yellow dot, happens every time ,try to focus on that dot and don't let it go down because that's what it will do ,instead try to look up and that dot will remain in the center of your view and while focusing on him patterns will appear don't try to get distracted by nothing and it will turn in something beautiful.From exp.

Hello everyone,

Can I ask the people who get some kind of visual aspect to your meditation session how long it took before this happened and what type of meditation you do.

I've been sitting on and off for a couple of years now and while I am perfectly happy with my practice I never have anything approaching the visuals other people seem to achieve. I am not trying to achieve anything in my practice except a quiet mind and if I manage to achieve that and nothing else I will be over the moon but these visual states people achieve are quite intriguing to me.

^^That again is the inquisitive mind. You can witness that too, still ego games (not that I don't have the same issue, just pointing it out) so it's still the same mind "wanting to achieve" or see images.

Meditation is an odd thing, it's as individual as everything else. I haven't had any visuals in a long time, but there was a time like 6 years back before my dad passed away where I had an influx of death-related images (didn't know the connection at the time) in any case I'm not sure it's dependant on a specific technique, I think we're all just in different places, some get it and some don't

I'd like to think if it's necessary to your meditative growth it would present itself, otherwise no need to bother with it

Honestly, the visions are a distraction.

But to answer your question, it probably took me 10 years of meditation before it started happening regularly.

The visions arrive when the normal conscious mind has quieted down enough that the subconscious mind has a chance to shine through. The thing is though, if you get caught up in the visions you loose the state pretty rapidly..so really they are truly just a distraction.

If they do arise for you, just observe them like any other state of mind....if you can!

Oh and as for meditation technique. You just need to work on concentration exercises. One pointed concentration on a single object. After a while you will notice your concentration wavering by the presence of visions... again they are more a distraction than anything.

Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it.

As I said I'm not very interested in a visionary state while I'm sitting, I was more interested in others experiences of the phenomena.

I can relate to what you mean about them being distracting, Joe, I find that when I do manage to still my thoughts its not long before I think "I'm doing it, I have no thoughts" then "D'oh" I realise I'm back to thinking.

Anyway, thanks again.

The visions can be distracting at times but for me they can also be the beginning of profound out of body experiences, or visions that seem to foreshadow actual things that will take place later on; like the phenomenon of precognitive dreaming but while awake.

I think the one thing one should meditate for, at least in the beginning, is to rid the self of the ego as much as possible. I use to want all these experiences too, until, i noticed within myself that I wasn't meditating for myself, but, for the experience that I could later talk about.

After some time, I started to change my focus, I wanted to learn, I wanted to do for me, all for me.

It took a long while for me to realize that I was just lying to myself, and doing so quite often. So I began to fix that as well, and soon, I noticed my meditation experiences going deeper, becoming easier and more intense.


I'm not trying to claim my ego is gone, thats a big lie; however, seeing where I was, and where I am now...well, I pat myself on the back from time to time.


Dont want anything aside from peace and clarity. The rest will come when its time.


As for a time frame, I've been meditating on and off for 2 years, though, the last 6 months have been the most I've stuck with it. Hope that helps!

@3erdI: try to make your own exp for the infinite nr. of possibilities,when you meditate try to relax ,don't try to achieve something because it will never,ever,ever happen, that's the purpose,you don't need to know the destination you only need to follow the path.


I have a theory about why the buddists are not achieving nothing,maybe few of them are, but to the most of them there is a purpose that got stuck in their heads for birth ,from generation to generation of an achievement ,a goal ,to reach nirvana,and they become obsess with reach higher states and other stuff that they forgot ho they are.
I come to this conclusion looking at my self and how i got to have a out of body experience and din't even know about that ,before i had my 1st one i was almost atheist , din't believe in this kind of things or religion, i was just me with no goal in life i din't want no job, no wife ,no family ,no nothing i was just going out training and just leaving with my parents ,and i`m not rich but i got a bed ,shelter and food,its all i need.oh and i`m 27 ,it all began in 2009 November. since then i had like over a hundred out of body exp. voluntary and involuntary most of them. i can't seem to control them.oh and i`m not getting this by doing drugs or something else ,they are just happening to me ,i can't explain. They only happen after i wake up early in the morning like 7 am or 8 and i stay in bed fully councios and from there there are 2 possible things that can happens to you ,u can fall to sleep again or have a OOBE, sometimes i don't know when i`m in the OOBE state so me guide helps me sometimes by given me a sing or moving clothes ,sometimes he talks to me,but very very rare,like 1 time a year.
And this is me.

Interesting to read... Been meditating for the past year almost every day. Started gradually and build up times. So far I've been using a candle to focus on, gazing at the flame and keep the mind steady.

Sometimes a deeper state comes. This doesn't happen always, but does occur more frequently over time. Once I had visions, saw patterns and motives moving. Very fascinating.

Some days are hard to meditate, others it comes easy. But I try to be sober when meditating. Sometimes I like to meditate after a session with ganja for example. And sometimes this works too, enhacing the state and brining on deeper ones, also coming up with new techniques to try like visualisations etc.

But to the question if it comes down to work through stuff and then achieve a state that lasts? I often feel like piling up thin sheats of papers each session and in time get a pile that starts to weigh. A skill that is very profound, but not a substitute for real life, rather a enhancer for it.

For a while now I have a desire to visit certain spots and meditate there. Yesterday the wheather finally allowed a visit. So I went and meditated on this spot:



On top there is a circle plateau. It's perfect for meditation! Sat there for about 2,5 hours and went deep into meditation. Nearing the end I had kind of visuals, were I saw swirls around me (open eyes).

This place is connected to local legends and numerous sources cite it as a sacred spot. It proved to be living up to it's reputation. People came and walked across while I was there, some happy others miserable. Whatever they were, it didn't make me feel awkward sitting there crosslegged, on the contrary I felt like being in power there...

Though afterward I felt very charged, like a high voltage battery. Had to come down from this .

Interesting story and a very beautiful place that looks like, sometimes i want to meditate in nature but din't quite find a good spot near by,there is one place i did meditate and find it very quit and like it,too bad is not so near.

I guess meditation can be a different thing to different people. I don't think of it so much as sitting in silence and clearing my mind or whatever.

After reading part of The Way of the Shaman by Michael Harner I tried my hand at a shamanistic journey or meditative journey. Not drugs were involved. I saw and felt many things that I can't explain. It freaked me out so much that I didn't finish the book. But anyway, I think seeing things is supposed to be an integral part of that experience.

That's what I think of when I think of meditation.

I've been looking for a good meditation book. Maybe I'll give this a try. Thanks!