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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil) Options
 
2pac4liyf
#241 Posted : 4/17/2009 4:36:32 PM

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I found a retailer that sells "orange sweet aromatherapy essential oil", contains 90.2% d-Limonene, would that do the trick?
 

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#242 Posted : 4/17/2009 4:53:44 PM

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do you know what else it contains?
it's a sound
 
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#243 Posted : 4/17/2009 4:54:53 PM

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Jorkest wrote:
do you know what else it contains?

I've requested the MSDS from the seller, hasn't responded yet. I'll post the contents as soon as I find out. Smile
Here's the ebay link:
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#244 Posted : 4/17/2009 5:03:11 PM

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why not just buy limonene it is on ebay
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#245 Posted : 4/17/2009 5:06:26 PM

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psychosisdoses wrote:
why not just buy limonene it is on ebay

I'm in the UK, I've tried to look around a bit but haven't been able to find a good source of food grade d-limonene Sad
 
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#246 Posted : 4/18/2009 12:05:42 AM

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2pac4liyf wrote:
psychosisdoses wrote:
why not just buy limonene it is on ebay

I'm in the UK, I've tried to look around a bit but haven't been able to find a good source of food grade d-limonene Sad



oh im sorry to hear that damn... i remember seeing posts earlier in the thread of people that lived in the uk that found some...
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#247 Posted : 4/18/2009 1:07:33 AM

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I am thinking that the quality of the citrus oil is sub par in comparison to the d-limonene...
it stands to reason that the people working with green terpene are having better results then those working with just citrus oil. In swims personal experience this has been the case... I recommend working with D-limonene if one can. SWIM is not sold on the citrus oil...

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#248 Posted : 4/19/2009 5:07:17 PM

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I'm wondering how accurate one would need to be measuring the Calcium Hydroxide. If one had shoddy scales and was off by a few grams in either direction, could this make a big difference to the process?
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#249 Posted : 4/19/2009 5:19:09 PM

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It will make a difference in the water needed. Just make sure it's wet but doesn't have lose drops of water. The cactus/calcium hydroxide mix should absorb all of the water and feel wet. If there's any lose water, too much water was used.
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#250 Posted : 4/19/2009 5:20:25 PM

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i dont think that would make a big difference one bit..but you may want to be a bit careful when dosing...because...mescaline can be quite intense
it's a sound
 
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#251 Posted : 4/19/2009 5:43:01 PM

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Get a good scale.

You don't want to accidentally ingest 500 mg of mescaline and go out to a party thinking you ingested a 100 mg "recreational" dose. SWIM is very experienced with psychedelics. While mescaline is one of the most friendly psychedelics in reasonable doses, a large dose can scare the crap out of person. It can be more intense than LSD in many ways. While LSD can cause tons of "mind fuck" and make you seem mentally impaired at high doses which some people call "intense", mescaline can give you a break through experience. You can literally see the entire universe come apart before your eyes and have a spiritual experience which words are incapable of describing. That's not something you want to experience at a party. Get a scale.
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#252 Posted : 4/19/2009 7:33:31 PM

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i started another extraction today will be the first ill be using a food dehydrator for the vinegar... i was contemplating how effective it would be to let the water dry out and crumble it too dust.. the other extracts iv done seemed like it was just clumps in the limonene that were kinda difficult to break up... do you think it still soaks into these clumps and drying the water would be unnecessary? was just wondering if it would work out better...

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#253 Posted : 4/20/2009 1:30:51 AM

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well its still not dry i was thinking i could lay the paste on some aluminum foil in my dehydrator dry it completely and then powder and mix on electric stir in limonene ... my thinking is this would provide maximum surface area... is there a reason i would not want to dry it (degradation?) or not use heat (was thinking ~120F) or am i wasting my time... it just seemed to me that the limonene wasnt penetrating the cactus... any ideas peoples?

at the moment its just sitting in a cup its gotten a bit thicker but nowhere near dry
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#254 Posted : 4/20/2009 1:58:47 AM

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Is using a filter a feasible way for removing traces of emulsion from the vinegar? SWIM's a victim of impatient pipetting and has little white salty looking traces in his vinegar.

 
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#255 Posted : 4/20/2009 2:08:47 AM

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soulfood wrote:
Is using a filter a feasible way for removing traces of emulsion from the vinegar? SWIM's a victim of impatient pipetting and has little white salty looking traces in his vinegar.




i have never experienced an emulsion or white salty looking things???
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#256 Posted : 4/20/2009 2:14:50 AM

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yeah from what I hear I think it's just emulsion. SWIM sucked some out and left it to evaporate and it did with very little trace.


Definately got some funny business going down but yields are as expected so far.
 
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#257 Posted : 4/20/2009 4:15:43 AM

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well i still havent decided what im going to do i was thinking i could scoop it onto some aluminum foil and put in food dehydrator till completely dry and crumble to dust in some way then add limonene and set on electric stirrer... filter with buchner

i just wanted to see if i got better yeilds this way.. i was concerned about penetration... thoughts?

update-
welp layed it on some foil and poped in the easy bake at 95F think 125 would be alright?

re-update-
after an hour adjusted temperture to 125 been bout 30 mins may turn it off in abit and start it again in the mornin things loud
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#258 Posted : 4/21/2009 7:36:03 AM

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Anyone else had their limonene turn green? SWIM did. It's been confusing him a little, as every pull he has done came out much deeper a green than expected. He has now found that if he leaves said green solution aside for long enough, a green layer of what must be cactus tissue forms at the bottom of the glass.
Does this happen to anyone else?
I think SWIM's coffee grinder mash the stuff up a little too fine. Either that of his filters are useless.
Also SWIM dried mix completely before adding limonene. I think these lose cactus particles will stick to water quite nicely but if no water available they go into the limonene.


Also did anyone ever find out anything about the solubility of Mesc acetate in various solvents?

SWIM has a variety of purities from each pull, oddly enough seeming to get more pure and crystalline as he goes on. He was wondering what would be the best way to re-dissolve his extracts so he could assure it all to be of the same potency? He has the full range from a dried fruit peel texture to sparkly, glittery sand.

At the moment he's probably just going to redissolve all his extracts in vinegar again and then re-evap to hopefully have some standard potency. But if anyone knows of a more appropriate solvent that can be used to do a more thorough clean, that would be double amazing. Smile


 
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#259 Posted : 4/21/2009 4:03:01 PM

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yeah leaving the water keeps the cacti clumped together...also..SWIM uses the THP to filter his mess...he just cuts up a hydrogen peroxide bottle and stuffs the bottom with cotton balls..and then loads it up with the cacti..and then tries to squeeze out as much d-limonene as possible
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SWIM was wondering, What is the shelf life on this stuff?
 
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