Hey all. Some stranger was telling me that he did an ACRB extraction using thicklight's tek and got all kinds of different results with each pull. He's wondering if maybe the different types goo have different DMT and NMT ratios, and if anyone has some insight on that.

Background - Some pulls resulted in crystals, but most were different types of goo, some thicker and different colors than others. He thought there was a correlation between the different results and how much of the naptha was pulled in each...pull. Leaving a decent amount in the jar, as a buffer between the purple basified extract and whet seemed like a cleaner layer of naptha that had floated to the top. Getting closer to the raw extract resulted in thicker and less clean looking goo. Maybe impatience with letting the separation happen was an issue.

Anyways - The results from one pull produce two particularly dissimilar goos, which kind of separated themselves during scraping. One is very thick, sticky and quite dark purple/red/brown. Definitely a lot tiny bark bits in there and it may be worth recrystallized to clean it up. The other goo in that batch is almost entirely clear and pretty liquid at room temp. This stranger would have assumed it is just remaining naptha, but it doesn't smell like that and it seemed that enough time had passed to fully evaporate the naptha.

So this got me wondering: is there any way to predict the DMT and NMT mix based on the consistency of the goo? For instance, would extra high levels of NMT make for a extra runny consistency?

If there was a reasonable way to judge this, then getting some level of control over the final ratios could be done through simply not combining goos that naturally separate.


By the way, I've seen the "enough goo questions" sticky and hope posting this isn't an issue because of its presence. This isn't a "how can I make the good crystals" question, so I figured it would be OK.

WARNING - If some of your goo has bark in it, then it has lye as well. And if it has bark and lye in it, then it surely had water in it as well - and that could explain the clear liquidy goo - possibly a mixture of oils and water.

If you didn't accidentally dip down into the water/lye/bark soup when pulling, it could have been caused by leaving bark in the soup. Here's a tip from Thick-light's tek: "Also I found that filtering the final boils before basing results in a less than likely chance of ending up with dirty naptha..."


I don't have an answer to your main question, though - just wanted to throw up a caution sign in case you didn't already know not to use the stuff with lye in it.

Well let me clarify that. There are two different types of dark substances. One is a dark thick sticky oil that's a little purple. Another is solid but brown flakey stuff that literally looks like crystalline bark.

I'm going to assume that the bark looking stuff really does have tiny bark bits in it and is there for pretty impure.

However, I wonder about the dark red purple oil. This thread suggests that red stuff can actually have high purity -

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=19320

And I've seen other comments about impure looking results being just fine in practice.

So before I dive into recrystallizing things and introducing loss, can anyone else give an opinion about dark ACRB too? Is it all certainly a health risk or might it be OK?

In short: No you cannot judge by external appearance. NMT itself also crystalizes under some conditions, and DMT can also stay as a goo, so you cannot say either way.

Check this thread, was written when mimosa was more used than acacia but it´s still relevant:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._my_spice_ok_to_smoke.3F

Oh, no, not all dark extract is bad - I was just referring to the one that you said definitely had bark in it.