swimwould like to find out more about these. swim heard they contains lsa? A close friend to lsd ya? swim Lives in maui and knows a park where they are all over the place. is there an extraction process like dmt or dose on just eat em or how dose swim go about it?

take 5 seeds & crush them to a fine powder. soak this in water for a day, while letting it sit in the sun. in the evening filter off the seed mush and drink the water. try adding a few drops of mint oil to the water.. this is supposed to yield different effects.

im pretty sure you DONT want to put it in the sun...LSA is sensitive to light and im pretty sure it breaks down in intense light

do you guys know about the content of immature morning glory pods, they are heavenly blues...
had to harvest mine early this yr cus for some reason they didnt finish in time like last yr..if I leave em too long the plant dies and pods rot...

putting it in the sun is the traditional preperation. maybe if the lsa is shattered by sun rays it will break down into something else which may be active otherwise.. who knows..

interesting lorax...SWIM may have to try it out one day

Here is some video of some Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds :

I don't think people around here like it when people try to advertise over the boards.

yeah i heard light and heat break down the actives fast.

Yeah the HBW seeds are definitely effective. 10 to 15 good seeds will create a pretty strong high. If you take them with alcohol you WILL get nauseous and most likely puke. Don't drink ANY alcohol with them. Also, if you eat the raw seeds you'll want to scrape the whitish outside coating off of each seed, it tends to have some toxins that also upset the stomach.
Many years ago I got a recipe called "Kitchen Fry" from a book. I think it was either "Legal Highs" or "The Anarchist Cookbook". Anyway, it had an extraction technique using alcohol and Ether to create a tar like resin. This could be scraped up and rolled into 00 capsule size doses. Two capsules were quite effective if I remember right, and it totally eliminated any nausea that the raw seeds might otherwise cause. Good luck!

Make SURE the botanical which you plan to ingest is 100% correctly identified!!!

If it's true Argyreia nervosa then take 7-13 seeds, grind them up and place them in a cup of cold water with peppermint oil, down the whole mixture!

in my experience that may be to many seeds...
iv gotta try the peppermint tho... converts it to LSH from what i heard...

I used to do 17 every time

geez most iv done was 15 i think
bit too lethargic and sickly for me havent tried em in a looooong time

17 would be a nasty experience if the seeds were just eaten, swim tried 8 and he was happy that he didnt take more.
hbwr apprently has no traditional use and was first abused by poor ppl in hawaii looking for free acid alternatives.
Rivea and Ipomoea spp do however have traditional uses. swim has tried hbwr and mg seeds and the mg seeds always produced a more positive experience.

swim took 10 hbwr seeds ground in coffee grinder and capsulated. the experience was very intense, and lasted many hours. finally curled up early a.m., swim let the swollen seed particles out, and was run down and felt drained for the next day. these seeds are strong, and be prepared to loose your soup, and don't have anything planned for the next day.
swim can't recommend these as worthwile, unless nothing esle is around...rivea corymbosa seems much more plesant.

please tell me more about the rivea exp bio - swim has this plant growing and a good few seeds - his plant should flower again soon - dosage, fx - etc ?

The most I've done is 22. Which was horrible.

the most pleasant way SWIM has ever done these seeds was..he took nine..ground them all up..and put them in his mouth..and held them there for at least 20 minutes..he didnt swallow any of the seeds...he didnt swallow any spit..and the experience slowly came on over the next 3 hours..it was extremely pleasant..he was very sociable..he actually went out to dinner with some friends...he was able to eat food and drink alcohol without any negative feelings..it was such a nice gentle experience...SWIM doesnt know why people eat the things...the pain from swallowing the seeds...ie..puking and stomach cramps is just not worth it

It's a simple matter to extract LSA from HBWR thereby avoiding nearly all the toxins.

SWIM extracted LSA from HBWR in a Soxhlet with boiling acetone. It works very well. Then he evaporated the acetone, dissolved the goo in a weak solution of citric acid (pH 4), defatted with DCM 10 times, then brought the pH to 8.5 with sodium carbonate, then extracted with DCM 10 times. He distilled off most of the DCM, and then evaporated the rest leaving a slightly sticky residue that can be cleaned by performing another A/B on it if you like, but it’s not really needed. You can just add some acetone, let it evaporate to remove any remaining traces of DCM.

After extraction SWIM dissolves it in DMSO for use as a sublingual tincture. Make sure to record how many seeds were used so that you can judge the potency of the final solution better. For 1 seed, SWIM would use 0.25 ml of DMSO. Another option is to use glycerin instead of DMSO. A solution of 50:50 glycerin and water acts as a preservative. It’s advisable to add excess vitamin C to the tincture and store it in a dark amber glass vial.