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#1 Posted : 9/2/2013 3:59:28 AM

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Instead of recrystallization I want to make this goo into a changa mix. how can I go about doing this?
 

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#2 Posted : 9/2/2013 4:42:45 AM

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dissolve dmt and harmalas in a minimal amount of solvent (in a small container like a shot-glass), add herbs, stir, and dry thoroughly (from then you can re-hydrate with a wet paper towel in a closed container [but not making direct contact with the herbs - let osmosis take its course])

there is also an entire changa subforum which is probably worth reading....
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#3 Posted : 9/3/2013 5:43:43 AM
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SWIM was going to ask basically the same thing as he has separated dmt saturated goo and fluffy white dmt into two parts and would like to know exactly what to do with the goo and how to go about smoking it. The same goes for the fluffy white dmt. SWIM imagines they are smoked or handled a little differently considering their structure etc.

SWIM has checked out the changa forum but it doesn't seem as user friendly as he would like it to be. Most folks there are experienced smokers.

So far it seems dried mint is an easy route to go but SWIM isn't sure. SWIM has pure grain alcohol he can use to dissolve and enhance the mint or herb.

EDIT:

Upon some further reading SWIM has gotten enhanced leaf mixed up with changa as he is extremely new to these things. Hopefully the mint rout will workout.

 
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#4 Posted : 9/3/2013 9:16:13 AM
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Dunghippy wrote:
SWIM was going to ask basically the same thing as he has separated dmt saturated goo and fluffy white dmt into two parts and would like to know exactly what to do with the goo and how to go about smoking it. The same goes for the fluffy white dmt. SWIM imagines they are smoked or handled a little differently considering their structure etc.

SWIM has checked out the changa forum but it doesn't seem as user friendly as he would like it to be. Most folks there are experienced smokers.

So far it seems dried mint is an easy route to go but SWIM isn't sure. SWIM has pure grain alcohol he can use to dissolve and enhance the mint or herb.

EDIT:

Upon some further reading SWIM has gotten enhanced leaf mixed up with changa as he is extremely new to these things. Hopefully the mint rout will workout.



https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...andbook#Leaf_Enhancement This is a step by step pictorial from the WIKI. Just follow this and you'll be good to go, whether it be using your crystals or the goo.

But if you'd like to follow my method you can do so. To make some enhanced leaf:

-Isopropyl alcohol or high proof alcohol
-shot glass
-dmt goo or crystals
-warm surface of something in the house

Make a 1:1 ratio of dmtgoo:herb. Soo if you have 1 gram of goo, then use 1 gram of herb to infuse. If you have 755mg of goo, then use 755m of leaf to infuse. You get my drift.

For knowing how much alcohol to use to dissolve DMT, i typically use 30ml per 1g of DMT crystals, so just use a similar ratio for the goo.

Put your choice herb/herbs in shot glass. In another shot glass dissolve the appropriate amount of DMT and/or DMTgoo in said amount of isopropyl or high proof alcohol. Stir until DMT xtals/DMTgoo is fully dissolved.

Dump the dissolved DMT into the other glass with the herb/herbs. Stir around for a minute. Then put the shot glss/small dish on a 'warm' surface (away from open flame). Check every half hour and stir gently making sure all is evenly distributed.

When the alcohol is fully evaporated take the enhanced leaf out and put in an open tray/dish and put in front of fan for several hours until dry. After that, it's ready to smoke! Just cherry the herb and drag it SLOW, taking long slow, full hits. Hit it til you can't hit it no more! Hold each hit 10-15 seconds.


If you want to go from enhanced leaf to 'changa' you must either add extracted harmalas from either b. caapi or syrian rue seeds. There are several teks in the wiki that show how to extract harmalas.

If you don't want to take the time to extract harmalas you can just use pulverized b. caapi vine in your herb mix or even b. caapi leaves. But adding extracted harmalas to your blend will be a much more pronounced version of 'changa' than just using leaf/vine.

hope this helped!

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#5 Posted : 9/4/2013 5:11:47 AM
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Tat, Thank you so much for that great response.

Seems that SWIM will most likely try out your method as he has the things on hand at the moment (except the herb, SWIM was thinking mint unless you know something that is easy to get that works better).

Few questions about smoking it from the herb. I have been reading that DMT is best smoked vaporized but it seems that leaf or changa can just be smoked normally, as in you can actually put the flame on the herb and burn it? Or does it also need to be vaporized? I still don't fully understand how it all works but I get that it needs to be heated under the temperature before it is combustible or something. Not sure how it being in a leaf changes that.

If so what do you recommend to smoke it from as SWIM does not want to invest in a GVG just yet. SWIM also doesn't even know how to smoke as he doesn't smoke anything so he is in for a lot right now but feels it is worth it.
 
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#6 Posted : 9/4/2013 6:59:41 AM

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Changa or enhanced leaf can be smoked. Like Tat said, just touch the flame to it to get it lit and then drag on it slowly. Blow out all your air before you take the hit so you can slowly fill your lungs. If you aren't used to inhaling smoke I would suggest something like a GVG or at the very least a water bong or pipe to cool the smoke. It'll be hard to get a big lungful at first. Mint is a good choice as it's not very harsh to smoke. Mullein might be another decent choice. Mint is easier to find though, obviously.
 
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#7 Posted : 9/5/2013 10:31:07 AM
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Dioxippus wrote:
Changa or enhanced leaf can be smoked. Like Tat said, just touch the flame to it to get it lit and then drag on it slowly. Blow out all your air before you take the hit so you can slowly fill your lungs. If you aren't used to inhaling smoke I would suggest something like a GVG or at the very least a water bong or pipe to cool the smoke. It'll be hard to get a big lungful at first. Mint is a good choice as it's not very harsh to smoke. Mullein might be another decent choice. Mint is easier to find though, obviously.



SWIM made a ghetto water bong using chewing gum etc and practiced smoking some bay leaves and chamomile. SWIM thinks he got high from the two, mostly the bay leaf. He felt lightheaded and sort of detached. SWIM did what Tat suggested but not exactly since SWIM had only small amounts to work with so he could only eyeball the amount of alcohol used and let it dry.

SWIM isn't sure when he will try to smoke the dmt/goo enhanced bayleaf/chamomile yet. He imagines it was about 10-15mg mix with more or less herb, it is a small pinch amount maybe the size of a dime or less (SWIMS scale isn't that accurate to measure mg, only to the .00) The smoke was pretty rough for SWIM and the inhale felt bitter to his lunges and mouth since he has never done it before. The bong filled up pretty good with smoke and seemed to work ok, but the makeshift metal screen filter isn't fine enough to catch all of the shredded chamomile so some went into the water Sad. SWIM might try doubling the screen, or putting more non enhanced leaf on top first as a cushion.
 
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Dunghippy wrote:
Tat, Thank you so much for that great response.

Seems that SWIM will most likely try out your method as he has the things on hand at the moment (except the herb, SWIM was thinking mint unless you know something that is easy to get that works better).

Few questions about smoking it from the herb. I have been reading that DMT is best smoked vaporized but it seems that leaf or changa can just be smoked normally, as in you can actually put the flame on the herb and burn it? Or does it also need to be vaporized? I still don't fully understand how it all works but I get that it needs to be heated under the temperature before it is combustible or something. Not sure how it being in a leaf changes that.

If so what do you recommend to smoke it from as SWIM does not want to invest in a GVG just yet. SWIM also doesn't even know how to smoke as he doesn't smoke anything so he is in for a lot right now but feels it is worth it.


Yeah, with enhanced leaf/changa you can just light it like you would cannabis. No need to vape like you would freebase crystals.

I would suggest in buying some mullein leaf and blue lotus. Mullein has a great surface area for the dmt to absorb into and mullein is very easy on the lungs.

I would just use a standard glass bowl/mj pipe. But if you can acquire a small bong of some kind, just put some ice cold water in the bong, put a bunch of screens down in the bowlhead, and pile the enhanced leaf in there, light, drag slow each hit, holding each hit for 10-15 seconds, repeat until 'bye bye'.

And the idea behind enhancing leaf matter is that the dmt infuses within the plant to a degree and is semi-protected from direct heat, making it much easier to go far with versus fumbling around with finicky crystals. Smile

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#9 Posted : 9/5/2013 12:36:34 PM

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Tattvamasi wrote:
Yeah, with enhanced leaf/changa you can just light it like you would cannabis. No need to vape like you would freebase crystals.

this is true, but at the same time you don't need to torch the eff out of it either.
use just enough heat to ignite and maintain a "cherry"

ime, i have found that the smoke should taste exactly how your changa smells unburned. if the smoke tastes nasty, you are probably using too much heat.
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