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Posts: 4 Joined: 23-Aug-2013 Last visit: 02-Mar-2014
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Greetings all, I'm not entirely sure to begin with all this. Throughout most of my life I've been told about how horrible and destructive drugs are, having that view forced on me. Whilst I still believe that there quite a few that are, I have become quite curious, almost borderline obsessive about certain substances. Mainly psychedelics. Whilst in the last year I had tried marijuana, I'm not really seeing the fuss about it (perhaps it just isn't for some). Amongst all the reading I had done about drugs, I had come to learn about Dimethyltryptamine. I get the feeling a few might cringe at my last statement, as I'm kind of lumping DMT under the category of "drugs". I've read and read these forums, becoming ever intrigued about it and the spiritual effects it can have. And I've learned that DMT is no drug, It sounds like something so profound, something I want to experience. In the coming weeks, I would like to try it and share my experiences with everyone. The amount of forum lurking and research I've done in the last week has been pretty crazy, yet I still have few uncertainties about the finer details. I don't mean to offend, but I get the feeling that I would have an easier time learning if there were more pictures or perhaps videos of the processes. I'm hoping that if I ever get to the point of mastering certain techniques, I could contribute back to the community in that way. I'm amazed at the plethora of methods to administer spice, and I did have a hard time choosing what I would potentially use as a first time. I had been a mere click away from purchasing a GVG before reading that the technique can be hard to get down and might not be suitable for a beginner. As a personal preference, I would not like to smoke changa or DMT/herb sandwich. This left me with settling on creating "The Machine" to use for my first try. It took a while to wrap my head around the construction, but I think i get it now. I've talked about it with a friend of mine who is also intrigued. I'm hoping to be able to share this experience with as well as having someone there to help, so I'm not just doing it on my own. We're planning on trying it a few times at low doses (15-20mg) before traveling to a forest-like area of Australia to attempt a breakthrough. I've been having this fantasy of being around nature, with a campfire at sunset, wrapped in comfortable blankets before attempting this grand journey. As a sidenote, I am so impressed with community here. The level of intelligence and willingness to help. I really can't wait to experience 'hyperspace' and share my experiences with you all. Take me to my dreams. Show me what this lifetime means. I see, Inside, And open my mind. I hold emotions in my hand, And hear the echoes of future's past. I feel like I can understand it all. Take me to my dream. Show me what's real.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=18087) fool adept
Posts: 349 Joined: 12-Jan-2012 Last visit: 22-Apr-2024
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I think if you have the money the GVG with a torch lighter is pretty easy for a beginner. You won't be able to get it perfectly but its a great way to start. I would say after a dozen or so low dose hits you'll be able to pull something significant everytime[breakthrough in 2-3 hits if you wish]. More and more practice will lead to those amazing INSTANT ONE HIT BREAKTHROUGHS people rave about. I really like mine. Smoking changa is easiest but i guess you don't want to combust anything, understandable. DMT has changed many lives for the better. If you feel it calling you and you are one of those people who always pushed, "further". I think you will find DMT gives you enough. [sometimes TOO MUCH ![Shocked](/forum/images/emoticons/shock.png) ] Welcome to the Nexus and good luck on your journeys ahead of you. In the province of the mind what one believes to be true, either is true or becomes true within certain limits. These limits are to be found experimentally and experientially. When so found these limits turn out to be further beliefs to be transcended. In the province of the mind there are no limits. However, in the province of the body there are definite limits not to be transcended.-J.C. Lilly The Spice must flow Zat was Zen and dis is Dao.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=10355) DMT-Nexus member
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Posts: 1955 Joined: 24-Jul-2010 Last visit: 12-Jan-2025
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Dear Nocci, Welcome to the dmt-nexus and thank you for your introduction. While some people might not like to call DMT a drug, it still is one in a physiological perspective. The term drug has many negative connotations within the world we live in, so most people cringe at the sound of this word, but this is simply what prohibition has done to our perception. It's just semantics in the end. I'd say most people found their way here by rout of other substances they might have been investigating - which at some point led them to DMT. The molecule that everyone mystifies. Perhaps it is our need to have something special... something that words can't explain... something... so that we can tell those that never have tried it: "you won't understand until you've experienced it." Or perhaps it's really special and incomprehensible, indescribable and all those things. Sacred to so many. Perhaps it's a bit of both. I certainly agree that it's hard to relate an experience to someone without flailing for words. The experience is just so personal, think even if you have had your own experience there is no way you'd fully understand mine. As for the fotos, I think there are plenty of fotos on this site, but feel free to add your own how-to's and whatnots to the forum and have them scrutinized by the community. There is also the wiki you might find useful checking out. As for videos, we don't really want people to make videos of things concerning dmt, since it's very hard to make them without putting anonymity at risk. I find a good pictorial much more informative than a video in most cases anyway, especially since you can go at your own pace. As for administration methods, it's a tough call. you'll just have to figure out what works best for you. Me, I wouldn't trade my GVG for anything. For longer lasting experiences that most seem to find more profound or clear, you may want to consider dosing orally with harmalas - in form of ayahuasca or pharmahuasca. cheers Buon viso a cattivo gioco! --- The Open Hyperspace Traveler Handbook - A handbook for the safe and responsible use of entheogens. --- mushroom-grow-help ::: energy conserving caapi extraction
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=31698) DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 4 Joined: 23-Aug-2013 Last visit: 02-Mar-2014
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No Knowing wrote:I think if you have the money the GVG with a torch lighter is pretty easy for a beginner. You won't be able to get it perfectly but its a great way to start. I would say after a dozen or so low dose hits you'll be able to pull something significant everytime[breakthrough in 2-3 hits if you wish]. More and more practice will lead to those amazing INSTANT ONE HIT BREAKTHROUGHS people rave about. I really like mine. I guess I didn't really want to fork out the odd $150 it would take to buy/ship it. Considering I've never done DMT and have no idea whether or not it would be something I would do more than once. But if it is, GVG will definitely be on my to-buy list. =) No Knowing wrote:DMT has changed many lives for the better. If you feel it calling you and you are one of those people who always pushed, "further". I think you will find DMT gives you enough. [sometimes TOO MUCH ![Shocked](/forum/images/emoticons/shock.png) ] Welcome to the Nexus and good luck on your journeys ahead of you. I think in a way that can describe the way I feel about it. Perhaps I'm clutching at straws here, but I've traveled to many parts of the world and I feel like everything is the same. Whilst I'm yearning to think, feel and see something different. I feel like DMT might be what i'm looking for. And thanks for the warm welcome ![Very happy](/forum/images/emoticons/grin.png) Enoon wrote:While some people might not like to call DMT a drug, it still is one in a physiological perspective. The term drug has many negative connotations within the world we live in, so most people cringe at the sound of this word, but this is simply what prohibition has done to our perception. It's just semantics in the end. I'd say most people found their way here by rout of other substances they might have been investigating - which at some point led them to DMT. The molecule that everyone mystifies. I wholeheartedly agree. I think what I was meaning to say is that understand how many people shun the term "drug" because of the way people link that idea with many harmful "illicit" substances. Enoon wrote:As for the fotos, I think there are plenty of fotos on this site, but feel free to add your own how-to's and whatnots to the forum and have them scrutinized by the community. There is also the wiki you might find useful checking out. As for videos, we don't really want people to make videos of things concerning dmt, since it's very hard to make them without putting anonymity at risk. I find a good pictorial much more informative than a video in most cases anyway, especially since you can go at your own pace. I definitely understand the need for anonymity. If I was to try at all for some sort of informative video, it would likely be something that shows absolutely no information about myself (be it face, name, etc). An unlisted Youtube video on an account that does't contain information about myself, or perhaps a file hosted somewhere like Mediafire. Enoon wrote:As for administration methods, it's a tough call. you'll just have to figure out what works best for you. Me, I wouldn't trade my GVG for anything.
For longer lasting experiences that most seem to find more profound or clear, you may want to consider dosing orally with harmalas - in form of ayahuasca or pharmahuasca. Yeah, I'm thinking a cheap machine is good for some experimentation and first tries. After that, the GVG seems like the place to go. I'd definitely like to try ayahuasca one time, though i never particularly liked the idea of having it last long. The thing that strikes me about DMT is that its effect takes place in a very short time span. I had tried marijuana before in edible form having taken too much, which i don't think was a fun experience so i am a little bit weary about ayahuasca. Thanks so much for your advice. Take me to my dreams. Show me what this lifetime means. I see, Inside, And open my mind. I hold emotions in my hand, And hear the echoes of future's past. I feel like I can understand it all. Take me to my dream. Show me what's real.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=19747) DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 648 Joined: 06-Apr-2012 Last visit: 01-Apr-2017 Location: Old continent
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Noccie wrote:I guess I didn't really want to fork out the odd $150 it would take to buy/ship it. Considering I've never done DMT and have no idea whether or not it would be something I would do more than once. But if it is, GVG will definitely be on my to-buy list. =) Let me share with you my own experience with "how difficult" it is to learn how to properly use GVG. (1) More than a year ago I bought a GVG, unpacked it ("hm... very nice, seems a little fragile though..." ![Pleased](/forum/images/emoticons/happy.png) , and thought "I actually have absolutely no idea how to use it!" (2) I pushed some wire mesh into my brand new GVG (learned from DMT-nexus the day before), then I put tossed about 35mg of DMT on top... (3) I didn´t have any torch lighter at that time, so I used the common bic-lighter. The small and cheap one. (4) I just sucked the flame inside the pipe, trying to take the deepest breath... (Yes, I remember inhaling just once) (4) Then... I don´t know what happened, but I just disappeared into Oblivion, and became one with the One... The experience still lingers with me after more than a year... ...Just to show you how "difficult" it is to learn how to properly use a GVG...
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=31698) DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 4 Joined: 23-Aug-2013 Last visit: 02-Mar-2014
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Michal_R wrote:The experience still lingers with me after more than a year... ...Just to show you how "difficult" it is to learn how to properly use a GVG... Haha, sounds like i don't have anything to worry about really. I'll have to consider it once I'm familiar with DMT. Also, I have a question about dosage. Does the amount of DMT needed change depending on the body weight of the user? I'm rather larger than the average person, so I'm wondering if I would potentially need to take more to be able to achieve break through. Thanks in advance. Take me to my dreams. Show me what this lifetime means. I see, Inside, And open my mind. I hold emotions in my hand, And hear the echoes of future's past. I feel like I can understand it all. Take me to my dream. Show me what's real.
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=19747) DMT-Nexus member
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This is difficult to tell in advance, also because the "success" doesn´t depend only on the body mass of the ´smoalker´, but also on his/her personal sensitivity and smoalking technique.
I think each ´smoalker´ might consider to establish their dose experimentally, i.e. by starting low for the first time (like 10mgs), and making their way up slowly (perhaps by adding 5mg each time) to see what works for them, and how their body/mind reacts to the experience...
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=24341) DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 2151 Joined: 23-Nov-2012 Last visit: 07-Mar-2017
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I know exactly where you're coming from, on the "discovering drugs" front. When I discovered psychedelics (through cannabis), I went through a phase where I was also really into researching drugs, trying them in as many different combinations and forms as possible. Eventually, I got it all out of my system and now just integrate them into my life when I need them. As for the GVG-thing, I would say try Ayahuasca first. Ingredients are readily available online, and I think it would be a good idea to introduce yourself to DMT a little more gently then loading up a pipe and blasting off. Ayahuasca does more for you, existentially, then smoalked freebase (in my limited experience). Welcome to the Nexus! ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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![](/forum/resource.ashx?u=31698) DMT-Nexus member
Posts: 4 Joined: 23-Aug-2013 Last visit: 02-Mar-2014
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Well, I had my first chance at trying over the weekend... And it was an absolute fail. I mentioned before wanting to be in a forest/bush area with a campfire as the setting for my first try of the spice. A friend and I had arrived to a suitable place to start a nice campfire. We got that going and realized we didn't bring any seats, and there were none where we went. We tried stacking small rocks around but it wasn't really helpful. Incredibly unstable and not safe for trying DMT on. Stupidly, i still tried. I had no idea what dosage i was putting on the steel wool to load in the machine, the milligram scale was resting on my knee while using the back of the tweezers to load up 25mg. I heated the steel wool and attempted to move the spice from the scale to the wool to let in melt in... I probably lost a lot of spice at this point, on the ground and whatnot. I attempted to heat it and take breaths from it. It looked like vapor was building up but it was dark and the only thing allowing me to see was the campfire. I took a few breaths, breathing in for a few seconds, holding for 3-4 seconds and blowing out considerable amounts of (what looked like) vapor. I did that three times and I felt what might have been a placebo effect. Everything felt like it became a bit brighter, I felt kind of warm. But this feeling subsided to nothingness in less than 5 seconds. It was an absolute failure. During that process, I had an overwhelming sense of paranoia. Feeling like regretting what i had just inhaled. Even though the trip was not going to last more than 20 minutes at most, i felt an extreme sense of worry. Perhaps i'm not ready for it. Although on the way home, I couldn't help but think that I really had nothing to worry about. The short bit of "feeling" i had was, surprisingly comforting. Although, I think the company I has was not suited for trying DMT around. I don't think he understood my needs or the like. I don't think he understood what would happen to me, or even cared that much. That and the setting was not entirely ideal and perhaps even dangerous. I may try again when I'm in a more comfortable setting. Take me to my dreams. Show me what this lifetime means. I see, Inside, And open my mind. I hold emotions in my hand, And hear the echoes of future's past. I feel like I can understand it all. Take me to my dream. Show me what's real.
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