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job15
#1 Posted : 8/26/2013 9:41:06 PM

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Hi, i'm new to this but SWIM (some one who is not me) is about to make some DMT and would like to run his/her methods past people who stuff.. Please give me any helpfull advise..
1. 200g Mimosa Hostilis/ Blended into dust...
2. 3 Litres of Deionized water mixed with 55 grams of lye in a 5 litre glass jar...
3. Mix the Hostilis powder into the water/lye mix....
4. Place in a cupboard for 24 hours....
5. Add 0.76 litres of white spirits.....
6. Place the 5 ltr jar into a bucket of 120 to 150 degree water (neck high to the jar)...
7. Every 2 hours shake the glass jar (gently) for 5 mins then replace in the bucket with fresh 120 to 150 degree water. Do this 3 times...
8. After the 3rd time and a 2 houre rest, take the clear top layer from the jar...
9. Place in a glass baking tray, cover and into the deep freeze for 24 hours....
10. Remove the white spirits ...
11. Place near a fan , then scrap up the crystals...
Does that sound ok? measurment wise?
I believe white spirits is the UK version of shellite /naphtha...
Thanks in advance..
 

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ZenSpice
#2 Posted : 8/26/2013 9:51:49 PM

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I would not personally use white spirits. If you do, expect to wait a lonnnnnnnnnnng time before they are close to dry.

Seek out something like a clean lighter fluid, or go one better and get a more selective solvent such as heptane. Should not be hard given your locale.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/26/2013 10:28:16 PM

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For 200g of mimosa you might be able to use less water. I know some people get emulsion with less water, but I find it easier to handle less liquid. I used to use about 750-850 ml per 100g of mimosa powder.

The shape of your glass jar that you mix everything in can be tantamount to your success. If you have a large surface in the container it's going to be harder to get the top layer off. Try decanting as much as you can into a smaller container with less surface and then separate using a turkey baster or a pipet or a syrringe.

The waits between the shakes are unnecessary IMO. Just wait until you have two separate layers and then shake again. Once it's separated there's not going to be much migrating going on, so whether you wait 3 minutes or two ours won't make a big difference.

Heating the mixture doesn't help all that much, and adds some extra danger. If you're going to leave your mixture in warm water for 3 times two hours you're going to have to heat that water some way. You are also working with highly flamable fluids so be sure to be very conscious of the danger. Also the warmer you make your brew the more of your solvent will evaporate, which doesn't help your yield and it's stuff you're breathing in. It does make the pulls a bit more saturated, but IME the change/increase isn't all that great. Most of my extractions I did without any heat.

The solvent you can reuse after having freeze-precipitated and removed the crystals. It tends to get a bit yellowish, but that doesn't matter. This way a liter or two of the stuff can last a long time and you don't waste.

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job15
#4 Posted : 8/27/2013 9:20:52 AM

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Thanks for the advise..
If I used 250g hostilis and say 1700ml water how much sodium hydroxide would I need?
I'll skip the water bath and I have primus power fule instead of the spirits..
 
job15
#5 Posted : 8/27/2013 9:23:00 AM

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Enoon wrote:
For 200g of mimosa you might be able to use less water. I know some people get emulsion with less water, but I find it easier to handle less liquid. I used to use about 750-850 ml per 100g of mimosa powder.

The shape of your glass jar that you mix everything in can be tantamount to your success. If you have a large surface in the container it's going to be harder to get the top layer off. Try decanting as much as you can into a smaller container with less surface and then separate using a turkey baster or a pipet or a syrringe.

The waits between the shakes are unnecessary IMO. Just wait until you have two separate layers and then shake again. Once it's separated there's not going to be much migrating going on, so whether you wait 3 minutes or two ours won't make a big difference.

Heating the mixture doesn't help all that much, and adds some extra danger. If you're going to leave your mixture in warm water for 3 times two hours you're going to have to heat that water some way. You are also working with highly flamable fluids so be sure to be very conscious of the danger. Also the warmer you make your brew the more of your solvent will evaporate, which doesn't help your yield and it's stuff you're breathing in. It does make the pulls a bit more saturated, but IME the change/increase isn't all that great. Most of my extractions I did without any heat.

The solvent you can reuse after having freeze-precipitated and removed the crystals. It tends to get a bit yellowish, but that doesn't matter. This way a liter or two of the stuff can last a long time and you don't wasteThanks for the advise..
If I used 250g hostilis and say 1700ml water how much sodium hydroxide would I need?
I'll skip the water bath and I have primus power fule instead of the spirits..



good luck

 
job15
#6 Posted : 8/27/2013 9:24:37 AM

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Enoon wrote:
For 200g of mimosa you might be able to use less water. I know some people get emulsion with less water, but I find it easier to handle less liquid. I used to use about 750-850 ml per 100g of mimosa powder.

The shape of your glass jar that you mix everything in can be tantamount to your success. If you have a large surface in the container it's going to be harder to get the top layer off. Try decanting as much as you can into a smaller container with less surface and then separate using a turkey baster or a pipet or a syrringe.

The waits between the shakes are unnecessary IMO. Just wait until you have two separate layers and then shake again. Once it's separated there's not going to be much migrating going on, so whether you wait 3 minutes or two ours won't make a big difference.

Heating the mixture doesn't help all that much, and adds some extra danger. If you're going to leave your mixture in warm water for 3 times two hours you're going to have to heat that water some way. You are also working with highly flamable fluids so be sure to be very conscious of the danger. Also the warmer you make your brew the more of your solvent will evaporate, which doesn't help your yield and it's stuff you're breathing in. It does make the pulls a bit more saturated, but IME the change/increase isn't all that great. Most of my extractions I did without any heat.

The solvent you can reuse after having freeze-precipitated and removed the crystals. It tends to get a bit yellowish, but that doesn't matter. This way a liter or two of the stuff can last a long time and you don't wasteThanks for the advise..
If I used 250g hostilis and say 1700ml water how much sodium hydroxide would I need?
I'll skip the water bath and I have primus power fule instead of the spirits..


good luck

 
 
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