Hello,

Could people please comment on this idea I have for smoking Spice. I don't smoke anything therefore I don't own a bong or want to sandwich the spice with any herbs (for work reasons). I came across a lightbulb idea online but it looked to 'crackhead' for me, this idea uses the same principle but its a lot easier than making holes in light bulbs.

The Idea is a Test tube which as been bunged/corked.
The bung/cork has two stems for letting air in and out i.e one to suck on, one to let air in.
The stem which lets air in is closer to the bottom of the test tube, this should circulate air up from the bottom hopefully bringing smoke with it.
The stem which you suck on should not stick out past or too far past the bung/cork as to maximise air flow upwards.
The test tube will have to be heated so you may want to make a stand or hold it with tongs as it may get hot.

I would appreciate constructive comments why this may not work or ideas for improvements. I haven't smoked any spice before so someone with first hand experience can let me know if this would work or if I would be wasting my time/spice.



Thanks

It definitely works, I have a friend that uses this method. I dont think its the best because the heating is done by conduction instead of the ideal way which is convection.

The thing is that you need to be quite careful with the lighter otherwise you can still put too much heat and burn the DMT. But otherwise its a winner

Try it out and let us know how it works for you. You could also try a convection based method such as the Inspirator MKII from amor fati, and tell us how it compares..

Good luck!

This is my preferred method. I've found it works great I use a bic and try let the heat not the flame do the work. I am a beginner though and have lots to learn but this was how I got my breakthrough and can attest to it it's capabilities.

Have a look at the Vaponic Vaporizer. It takes this design a step further as it uses convection instead of conduction (hope I did'nt mix up the terms?) to heat the material:







Nice piece of engeneering work, imho! By the way it's a really great option for vaporizing weed. I've tried and own several vapes and this one tastes even better than a 400$ herborizer. ...after learning how to use it right (heating time etc.).

So it would be a much better idea for me to try and slide a smaller test tube into a larger one then? Would this (assuming I got the spacing correct and could hold it in place) create enough convection do you think? I'm sure I have some spare laying around and will some experimenting with it and post my result.

If this were to work should there be an incorporation of gauze? I've read a lot and it seems 50/50. I've never used it so I'm unsure.

Also if it is a good thing for equal heat distribution, would gaze with ceramic perform better?

Cool thanks for the replies, I like the Vaponic Vaporizer although I don't think it could hold crystals with out having any herbs packed in tight.

Yeah I also though about a test tube inside another test tube. You could add a small amount of water at the bottom of the outer test tube to try and trap the heat and focus it on the bottom of the inner test tube. Although this may be taking it too far

I will attempt to make my idea and see how it works out. If i find that the spice burns rather than melts and I am loosing a lot then I may try a 2nd test tube with water at the bottom like a double boiler idea.

I've been trying to perfect a pipe and this has really kicked me into hear, I'm on lab sites looking at more gear now
I was thinking if using the stainless steel gauze with ceramic centre so maybe incorporating that in the second tube too.

I've come to the conclusion that cork will be the easiest to use to hold the tube in place and is easily removable air and water tight. It's also a crap load easier to work with than rubber, that stuff is unforgiving.

See if this doesnt give you guys any good ideas

thank you. I'm new to the site and there is so much on here I don't realise, it's great having everyone showing me around. This place has been more of a family since I joined then most of my blood kin. It's also great to be learning safety. I was unaware that ceramic fibre was hazardous (one design I was thinking was in the secondary tube after looper had the idea of water) but its excellent that its all advised in the safest possible way and I love it

This was what I was thinking. Apologies for the crudeness of both the picture and my writing, I just got my hand out of a cast the other day.

The vaponic has a very fine gauze in it, yes. Basiclly like this. Additionally one can add stainless steel wool from a stainless steel scrubbing pad.

But if you are worried to loose spice in your experiments, maybe you should use a device which is already prooved to work fine.

I'm sure that there is some try and error involved in getting the distances right, when you try to build a vaponic like device.

I think the air really should pass along the heated glas. In your design this seems not to be the case. Here I tried to illustrate the airflow in the vaponic:

I think you are right Steppa. Myself and Equipotential are possibly trying to reinvent the wheel in a way, the Vaponic Vaporizer is what we are trying to achieve so why not stick with that. I think I will get the Vaponic Vaporizer, I have a while before my supplies arrive and can start cooking so I may play around with a few DIY designs just to pass the time.

Equipotential, if you do make your design keep us posted, also with any lab equipment finds which may be useful.

...or just go for a machine style device like endlessness suggests.

Just bought the Vaponic Vaporizer

...that was fast! I hope you'll be satisfied.

One more thing I'd like to mention:

This thing WILL be hot after use! Like, burn-your-carpet-when-it's-falling-down hot. Be sure that there is someone to assist you, when using it!

Ok thanks. let you know how it goes.

Your idea is identical to my first device!

I used it twice, and then abandoned it for other alternatives. The vapor it produced was incredibly harsh and unpleasant, and it wasn’t very efficient at vaporizing.

“The Machine” is a much better device if you’re trying to keep costs down. My second device was a modified version of the machine (a mini-bong with a wad of copper mesh stuffed in the bowl.)

After a year of experimenting with other types of devices, I eventually got a GVG and have been quite pleased with the results.