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#1 Posted : 8/23/2013 2:01:52 AM

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All I can say is WOW!!!
I finally got one good thick hit of my AC changa and the body buzz came on stronger than ever!.. and every thing i looked at was trying to morph into something else..
I also got strong rolling movement of the floor and walls...

Every little item on tables and shelfs tryed to come to life in front of my eyes ..but i think i should have held it in longer or used a little more than two small pinches of my cappi leaf and acacia infusion !~...
I still havent had any sucess yet with hostillis DMT [probibly my smoking methods to blame]and now its harder to find i hear..
But this AC full spectrum goo is extreemly active...
The come up was ..fast and strong.. but I think still not as intense as ive heard straight DMT can be...
I must admit i felt very good with this body high and was able to think rationally through the intire experiance..
In the early part of the come up im glad i was laying down and not trying to stand!Big grin
I felt good althrough the experiance and dont feel any negative after effects...
This was full spectrum AC goo that i did a carbonate wash on before smoking...
Im making this report on my smoked A acacia experiance because there seems to be so little reports on this spice mix yet...
It would be nice to hear more reports on Acacia spice trips !
 

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#2 Posted : 8/23/2013 2:11:48 AM

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Oh man, I made some acacia changa just a couple days ago. I think mine was about 40/60 acacia/caapi full-spectrum freebase alkaloids dissolved in methanol and evaporated on some dried spearmint from my garden.
This was FAR more effective than anything else I've tried to date.
The first time I tried it I was pussyfooting, trying to "vaporize" the stuff off the leaf, trying to gingerly flick the lighter over top of it... Nothing.
Thinking I may have made a mistake somewhere down the line, I decided to just rip the thing hard. I was not at all prepared for the explosion of knowledge and color and slithering, expanding, contracting, transmuting, transcending, and everything else.
Words can't even describe it... so I won't bother.
So, what I mean is...
Acacia and caapi! United in holy matrimony! Changa, do it!
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#3 Posted : 8/23/2013 2:28:13 AM

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Sounds great! ..my changa was about 1.1 ..[or maybe 1 to 1/2 .. thats.about two grams of cappi leaf with about 1 and 1/2 grams of full alcaloid acacia goo..
How much did you pack in the bowl?
were you able to get strong visuals?
My experiance lasted 30 to 45 minutes and got this very pleasant body high..maybe pleasure centers were turned on...
It felt like my whole invirment was ..[vacume sealed].. like in a vacume tube fun house and and i got this feeling everything around me..[even non physical objects] were trying to come to life in front of my eyes!
I think my dose was just a little off this time...
 
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#4 Posted : 8/23/2013 3:33:46 AM

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The goo is just as strong for me. Different, but just as nice.
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#5 Posted : 8/23/2013 4:44:34 PM
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I've seen people in other threads saying that 1:1 wasn't the best ratio for AC extract changa, and 1:1 was actually a bit weak. I don't know if they used crystals or goo or a combination of the two. Personally, I thought 1:1 was a bit too strong when it came to MH extract.

I'm in the process of doing my acid boils now on my first ACRB extraction, I definitely plan on making some changa so I will report back Smile
 
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#6 Posted : 8/23/2013 5:55:24 PM

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I don't know what else I would do with the goo to be honest, but acacia changa is something special. The strongest experience I've had was with some 5x salvia, acacia goo and rue alkaloids.
 
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#7 Posted : 8/23/2013 11:41:30 PM

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I supose in burning changa.. you cant help but loosing [destroying some of the spice..
Maybe letting the [AC goo] dry long enough to be able to handle and scrape it up better .one could just sandwich a small waxy peice in between some kind of herb and vaporize it more compleatly getting more effects from the spice...
I did this [sandwich method]..once with a very small gobb of AC spice and it hit me like a ton of bricks...!
 
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#8 Posted : 8/24/2013 12:57:57 AM

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AC DMT heavy changa!..
Waiting to hear your experiance!!
 
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#9 Posted : 8/24/2013 1:51:43 AM

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Maybe letting the [AC goo] dry long enough to be able to handle and scrape it up better .one could just sandwich a small waxy peice in between some kind of herb and vaporize it more compleatly getting more effects from the spice...
I did this [sandwich method]..once with a very small gobb of AC spice and it hit me like a ton of bricks...!

I use the sandwich method with my changa and it works great. Even just putting a little of whatever herb on top to protect it. Best method for this type of gooey changa.
 
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#10 Posted : 8/25/2013 2:16:46 AM

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Ok waited one day and smoked more of my acacia confusa changa and what i experianced was so rewarding it hard to describe...
This time i used a third less changa than first report above.. and tryed to smoke more in shoreter time ..
Afer ..[lightly licking the bowl of sticky AC cappi leaf changa with lighter]..trying to cause a vaporization effect.. i got one and a half inhalations and it started to work fast but gentle as i waited over a minute..then thinking it was mostly gone ..i lit the bowl again now longer than one minute and i got even more thicker smoke this time and it still hit me good...
I waa surprised at how much was still left in the tiny bowl and how well it hit after waithing past ..[the 30 second to one minute time frame].. one is suposed to use with dmt..
Knowing that i broke up my hits within a three minute time freame it still did its magic again...
The AC was climbing all over me ..and i sat the bong in a safe place and layed down to the most wonderfull feeling of calmness and near meditative mind body state ive felt in a long time..
It felt as if a warm blanket was layed over my intire ..[body mind and spirit]]. as i turned on my side and closed my eyes i felt myself moving sideways through a tunnel of briliant swirling colors ..[althoug because of my low dose.. the colors were not as vivid as i had wished]..but the colors were felt even stronger in ways i cant fully explain...
I layed their for 40 minutes but felt much longer ..
All this on a wimpy little dose of AC goo!
Im fairly shure that if i were to get more in a short time it should become very visual..
I know this gentle fast and strong come up doesnt sound like DMTs fast blast off effect but this is what ive experianced on this low dose test..
I really like its gentle fast strong effects so far...
Hope someone else experiances this bliss!cheers to all...
 
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#11 Posted : 8/31/2013 11:25:29 PM

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Well ..
A few above said were close to trying their AC confusa extract changa...
Does anyone want to report their experiance with acacia confusa?..
 
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#12 Posted : 9/1/2013 3:29:14 AM

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I can briefly summarize an experience I had about a week ago with some enhanced leaf made from acacia goo. I just used plain Calea Zacatechichi leaf.

I loaded up 100mg of my changa and took it in two slow hits. The strong body load blanketed over me before I exhaled the first hit, by the exhalation of the second, I was fully immersed in the experience.

Very bright and intricate geometric patterns overlayed the back of my eyelids. I felt my body was almost vibrating with energy. I was barely holding onto the thought "just breathe, keep breathing" when the patterns gave way to a scene of a forest canopy, as if I was flying above it at great speed. The canopy was dark green and pixelated like a low resolution video with a lot of motion.

I remember some other part of the trip that involved thoughts being telepahtically communicated to me by something/someone, but it's difficult to articulate.

The after goo lasted for a good two hours, leaving me very refreshed. I went for a walk in the park and played one of my ocarinas. Lovely evening. Smile
 
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#13 Posted : 9/1/2013 1:43:58 PM

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Ya, the acacia extracts I've smoked were (are) yes special.
I'm not going to repeat my trip reports on this thread, but suffice to say that the multiple chemical profile in acacia makes for done powerful stuff. And yes,a noted above, very buzzy with a pronounced body high that is different from mimosa extract.

There seems to be not only a presence of harmala as well as the various other psycho active alks present. I love acacia confusa!

Yeah it's goo, usually-always has been for me (sorry TL, I tried but, well, I just don't care) but once it's evaporated from some IPA on an herb it's even easier to work with than xtals in my humble opinion.

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Headspace is nice, but the body buzz is kicking me.


My brother tried a hit of my AC changa (one hit) and found it quite unpleasant and said it felt like an elephant was sitting on his chest. Everyone is different I guess
 
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Ha, my girl likes it too, and she is not really into tryptamines.
Says it's the only thing that let's her body stop hurting, she gas bursitis and nerve pain.
Seems to last a while, and combined with gabbapentin (sp?), she is having very good physical pain amelioration with small doses.

Yes, the acacia provides good medicine.
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starway6 wrote:

The come up was ..fast and strong.. but I think still not as intense as ive heard straight DMT can be...!



Yeah, usually when you have harmalas in the mix as with changa, the come up is ever so slightly delayed, but it can still ramp up really quickly. Sometimes with changa I've noticed it's like I'll start breaking through right around when I would normally be thinking ok, this experience should be ending any minute now.
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#17 Posted : 9/2/2013 12:26:52 AM

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I can briefly summarize an experience I had about a week ago with some enhanced leaf made from acacia goo. I just used plain Calea Zacatechichi leaf.

I loaded up 100mg of my changa and took it in two slow hits. The strong body load blanketed over me before I exhaled the first hit, by the exhalation of the second, I was fully immersed in the experience.

Very bright and intricate geometric patterns overlayed the back of my eyelids. I felt my body was almost vibrating with energy. I was barely holding onto the thought "just breathe, keep breathing" when the patterns gave way to a scene of a forest canopy, as if I was flying above it at great speed. The canopy was dark green and pixelated like a low resolution video with a lot of motion.

I remember some other part of the trip that involved thoughts being telepahtically communicated to me by something/someone, but it's difficult to articulate.

The after goo lasted for a good two hours, leaving me very refreshed. I went for a walk in the park and played one of my ocarinas. Lovely evening. Smile


This trip report sounds great!
This was Acacia Confusa only?
Did the trip get very bright and noisy like mimosa can get at some point?
Was two hours you speak of an after glow thing? ..with the actual trip lasting about 30 minutes?
The body load blanket thing sounded much like what i experianced !
Thank you for nice description of your AC trip ..!

 
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#18 Posted : 9/2/2013 12:34:00 AM

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Well, my Changa is a hit with my spouse. She actually prefers it to vaped crystals.

Sadly for me, the body buzz of AC changa (at least my current overpowering blend) is not my favorite. I find it "plants" me. I take a nice large hit and become nigh on paralyzed with an inability to want to move.

Headspace is nice, but the body buzz is kicking me.

Going to make some mim changa and see how it compares.

Cheers.


Well maybe you made it a little too strong and can thin it out some?
Smile Thanks for report.!
 
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starway6 wrote:

This was Acacia Confusa only?
Did the trip get very bright and noisy like mimosa can get at some point?
Was two hours you speak of an after glow thing? ..with the actual trip lasting about 30 minutes?
The body load blanket thing sounded much like what i experianced !
Thank you for nice description of your AC trip ..!


Yes, it was just some nice yellowish-orange acacia goo deposited onto some plain Calea Zacatechichi leaf. No harmalas or anything else added.

I find acacia can bring you to the same place as mimosa, but the come up and sub-breakthrough effects are very different. Acacia is much more physically oriented, somewhat like Salvia is. When I first took a small hit of acacia goo I said aloud, "Wow, this feels a lot like Salvia." I can see why some people say the body load is unpleasant. I guess I've more of a tolerance, even liking, for it. Salvia is one of my favorite plants Smile

I said 'after goo' meaning the after glow, yes Very happy The actual trip was only about fifteen to twenty minutes or so. I wanted to mention the dosage I took as well. I seem to have a high tolerance for tryptamines so this 100mg dosage might seem over the top, but it was actually a mild to moderate dosage for me. The ratio was about 1:1 leaf to goo. I think most people would find that kind of dosage a bit too much, especially with it being an acacia extract.
 
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#20 Posted : 9/2/2013 11:57:23 PM

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Ive heard that the body load on mimosa can be strong to..
I added just a small amount of mimosa dmt oil to my acacia and i think it made some diference..
I agree that salvia can have body load to but it feels diferent than a dmt body load to me...
I like salvia also.. and find its ..body load effects.. milder than dmts..
I have a theory ..unproven though]..that DMT .[may push the blood pressure higher than salvia]?..
On my dmt trip report above.. i talked about everything got ..very bright...noisy..felt like i was under water ..and got that closed in feeling.. and tryed to control the trip by opening the curtains and windows...

[[I know now not to try to controll a dmt trip!!]]

The last time i smoked some 7x salvia it had the strongest body load ever or body halucination .. as i was lying on the couch my physical body felt.. [as flat as a rug]!!Laughing
example..[I felt like.. [what an inflatable would look like after all the air was let out!Big grin
Others call it ..becomming a conveyer belt!!
Even though i felt this way i felt comfortable and somewhat relaxed and laughed during the experiance..

But my dmt experiance with the ..bright world..loud buzzing..fractals flying all over the place with eyes open caight me by surprise and caused some short lived anxiety..or a more threatening emotional response..

So i may have felt more relaxed on salvia ..but my judgmental machinery and memory ..worked better and clearer with the DMT..
This was my first serious encounter with DMT I think i will handel it better next time after taking the second hit because i understand that the second hit can make one totaly unaware of bodily sensations! atleast i hope it works that way..
happy travels...
 
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