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#1 Posted : 8/21/2013 10:32:25 PM

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In the DMT realms, ANYTHING is possible, there seems to be no limits or boundaries. No Rules. But, for me, there are 6 main themes which re-occur and were present during my hundreds of experiences. I cannot pin down any rules, but I can pin down the re-occuring themes. What do you think?, and what else could be added?




Interconnectedness, the most obvious, happens during almost all psychedelic trips, but is still a great lesson or reminder. One feels that he or she is not only one with the universe, but that him or her and the universe are one and the same thing, that there is no subject or object, that all is simply part of one exact process.


Reincarnation, In the past, to my mind, reincarnation was no more or less than a faith, no different than a belief in Heaven or Hell, but time after time, I wound up somewhere where I felt like I had been before a hundred times, when I had never seen that place before in this lifetime. I was also welcomed back as if “they” knew me immediately. They told me “How are you?! Welcome back! It’s been a while since you have been here!” While I just stood there in awe wondering how I have been there before, and how do these beings recognize me. Not exactly like de-ja-vue--I was really standing in a place that I know that I have never been, but recognized it like my front door, and was greeted by beings who knew without question that I had been there many times. I now consider reincarnation a good possibility.


Pantheism, every time I immediately get the feeling that the trees, plants, grass, rocks, clouds, etc., are just as aware of me as I am of them, there is no question. They are looking at me, seeing me, and telepathically communicating to me that they are there, and that they have much to teach me. Often each leaf on a tree, in a bunch of trees, each had a face, or an entity-ness about them, and was “showing” themselves to me, since I was on a frequency that could observe it. Rocks in a waterfall once “showed” themselves to me and communicated that they were just as aware, they were staring directly at me. There is a way that could make pantheism, and the communication with rock and trees and the like, scientifically possible, through electro-magnetism. Hard drives on a computer use electro-magnetism to store information. The molecules in all rocks and trees and the like are held together by electro-magnetism, therefore the rocks and trees and the like could have stored information, accessible at certain frequencies.



The Divine in Every item, every particle, since all are interconnected and are a part of the picture, then a piece of sunlight shining through a window shade on a wall, a leaf, a blade of grass, a door hinge, a wooden floor plank, the meeting point of the corner of a room, a strand of hair, etc., all contain the divine eternal—all of existence, and can represent all of existence by that one single piece or particle. I once experienced, first the suffering of all of my family, by staring at, and being in the presence of a few inches wide and tall piece of sunlight shining on a white wall, as I went further I experienced the suffering of the whole world, of all humanity all at once. I also experience the whole of nature and the cosmos through a single blade of grass. Divinity, as in the essence of natural creation, was and can be experienced by one single item, because it is not an item in itself or by itself, but does not or cannot exist without the whole universe, it is not an item, but a process, one which represents that something can exist, and that since it does exist, then so does the rest of the universe in which it exist. Divine, shining, blinding revelation can be shown to the enlightened ones which have opened their heads. This makes life so much more wonderful, partaking in the awe of children.



Eternity in every moment, all is happening at once. When only the present state, which is the only true state, is immersed, then all of existence becomes eternally present, all of eternity happens from moment to moment. The future only exists in thought, the past has vanished and often only exists in tattered, fallacious memories, so the present ‘Now’ is the only real time. Every time I entered into this state, I became fully aware that eternity is in every moment, from moment to moment. This is truth. One cannot truly live if one never achieves the ability to be consistently aware of the present state. Eternity can be found in every moment.



Everything as organism, in that there are no singularities, but multiplicities of objects, which are comprised of other objects, creating other organisms. Light, energy, as organism, which feeds electrons, which feed atoms, which feeds what we call matter, which are entangled into other organisms, but which together are another organism itself. An example is the light comprised electrons which electromagnetically hold together the grass, together as a whole are an organism as itself. Each blade of grass is an organism, there should be no debate there, but the grass together as a whole is another organism. The grass and trees each by themselves are an organism, but the grass and trees together make up another organism. The ocean alongside these grasses and trees make up an organism itself, the clouds are an organism, each cloud by itself, and the clouds as a whole. Fire on the Earth is an organism, an excerpt from my Reflections and Illuminations for Higher Existence: “Fire is a living thing: it breathes, it eats or consumes, it wastes, it multiplies or grows, and seemingly desires.” The planet as a whole is an organism, the solar system is an organism, the galaxy is an organism, collections of galaxies are organisms, the galaxies all together which make up the Universe are an organism, if there are other Universes, then the collection of those are an organism, possibly a piece of matter like a molecule of a rock, which would then be an organism. From each electron made of light, to all the rest of the rotating, circulating systems of all of existence, no matter what level of dimension, make up an organism by itself, and an organism connected to its surroundings, including all systems of nature.


Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 

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#2 Posted : 8/22/2013 4:11:58 AM

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Nice reflections, DisEmboDied.

In some way most of these are elaborations on the general theme of All is (Animate) One, I guess. Curious that you don't speak of entities. In the case of entities or spirit beings, the animated or organismic character you speak of (and which I too experience to varying degrees), assumes an apparently separate existence. Rather than universal connection there is the enigmatic space of separation between distinct sites of intelligence and desire, namely it and you. Intersubjectivity, idiosyncracy. The mystery, in other words, of 'the other'. To me DMT is just as pregnant with this otherness as it is with the affirmation of ultimate identity, aka All is One.
 
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#3 Posted : 8/22/2013 6:36:36 AM

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That's because Chadeav, that these seemingly separate beings are not at all separate from these universal experiences, that these entities have no distinct separateness from you or me, that the interconnectedness theme encapsulates them as well as us, simultaneously, with absolutely no difference whatsoever. A 'self' consciousness remains intact, a point of reference, true, but his or her energetic molecular compositional structure of geometry and light, in fractal form, remains indistinct from me or them. Fratals, me, you, us, and them, universally.
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
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#4 Posted : 8/22/2013 6:38:45 AM

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One does not make sense without the other. There is no such thing as something without nothing.
Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
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#5 Posted : 8/22/2013 9:32:44 AM

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I'd say that all of those are not specific about DMT, but about the psychedelic experience in general.

Also I'm not sure if 'reincarnation' is the right (or only valid) interpretation to this feeling of dejavu. Maybe it's us reminding ourselves of a lost consciousness state, or of what comes before/after this life, or something of the sort. I think the idea of a linear reincarnation is quite limited, sometimes I think that reincarnation could be in other ways, for example everybody is a reincarnation of everybody else, or reincarnation goes to future and past or even to other planets, or maybe its just a symbolic way of saying we're all One.

Anyways... Back to re-ocurring themes that are specific to DMT, I'd say a few of them off the top of my head:

- The Circus
- Buzzing short-circuit-like scanning
- Gifts from Hyperspace
- Ultra-advanced technology
- Sense of humor (often I end up laughing with DMT)
 
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#6 Posted : 8/22/2013 9:39:02 AM
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endlessness wrote:
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- The Circus

..how also about The Jester..?
that's come for quite a few people..
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- Sense of humor (often I end up laughing with DMT)

..yeah, the cosmic joke..

DisEmboDied wrote:
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Eternity in every moment, all is happening at once. When only the present state, which is the only true state, is immersed, then all of existence becomes eternally present, all of eternity happens from moment to moment. The future only exists in thought, the past has vanished and often only exists in tattered, fallacious memories, so the present ‘Now’ is the only real time.
..i like this..this is deep in 'hyperspace'..i'd agree this is a common 'theme'..

also, is not everything is made of light..?

 
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#7 Posted : 8/24/2013 3:27:33 AM

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These themes correspond more to low to medium doses than the really high doses, thus the circus and buzzing scanning.

I like how Terrence McKenna described the archetype of DMT as the circus.


I wonder what else people could add or disagree with?...



Meditate before you venture, take it seriously, use it as medicinal—it is good psychotherapy if needed. Realize that you, the Earth, others, and the Universe are all one and the same process. Then take that knowledge back to become, as you already are, one with nature. Eternity in every moment. Divinity in every particle. All is one organism.



 
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#8 Posted : 8/24/2013 3:52:38 AM

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Egyptian and Buddhist imagery (though particularly Egyptian) is quite recurring for me.
"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind" - Albert Einstein

"The Mighty One appears, the horizon shines. Atum appears on the smell of his censing, the Sunshine- god has risen in the sky, the Mansion of the pyramidion is in joy and all its inmates are assembled, a voice calls out within the shrine, shouting reverberates around the Netherworld." - Egyptian Book of the Dead

"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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#9 Posted : 8/24/2013 6:17:29 AM
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I would agree with most of those themes if the topic were LSD. During my experiences, there are other themes that are much more prominent. On the other hand, I've never taken DMT orally and I definitely don't have as much experience with it as DisEmboDied.

Familiarity: Remembering something long forgotten, or being in a hyperplace that is eerily familiar. "How could I have forgotten this?!"

Labyrinth/Funhouse: Navigating a geometrically complex structure in an abstract space. Doors, levels, twisting roads, warped hallways.

Manipulation: The sensation of being manipulated or controlled by an external force/entity. Feelings of being operated on or of being handled by hyperspatial beings in some way.

Unfamiliarity: Objects/scenarios that are surprisingly alien and unfathomably (perhaps even uncomfortably) unfamiliar.

Meaninglessness: Struggling with words and meaning. Deconstruction of meaning to the point that logic ceases to be useful. Realizing that words like "life" and "consciousness" are so poorly defined that they are meaningless.

Death: Being alienated from one's identity or losing track of one's consciousness in the infinite sea of experience. Forgetting how to form thoughts as consciousness melts away.
Every day I am thankful that I was introduced to psychedelic drugs.
 
 
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