Does distilled white vinegar "extract" the mescaline from d-limonene?
SWIM used it and is having a hard time seeing it separated from the d-limonene... After mixing and letting settle for about 10 minutes in his fat separator, there was no visable separate layers. He started pouring it into a previous container to see if the vinegar was even separated..It was all yellow/green limonene until the very end where it became clear.. SWIM guesses that's the vinegar to use, but it's not in a visable separated layer in any container

Does apple cider vineger work? (it's 5% acidity)

SWIM LOVES STRONG COFFEE WITH MESCALINE! If you haven't tried it DO IT! I think that's much better than mescaline with cocoa. But to be fair, SWIM never tried really strong cocoa with it.

The Torch extract feels like mescaline far more than San Pedro does. The Torch is unreliable. Sometimes it's very potent, sometime it's very weak. San Pedro is your best bet because it's potency is generally more predicable.

San Pedro has a lot of these amber/brown alkaloids in it that have their own psychedelic effects. SWIM has separated them and has experienced the non-mescaline San Pedro alkaloids on their own. They produce a relaxed peaceful dreamy state of mind, make you slightly numb, cause a pleasant tingling sensation in the body, and also cause visual effects which are unlike those of mescaline (things look strangely animated). When they are taken together with the mescaline, they mellow out the experience, making it more dreamy, more relaxed.

SWIM prefers PURE mescaline. The Torch is the closest to pure mescaline you can get using this type of vinegar based tech. Pure mescaline is more clear headed, more euphoric, and has less body load for SWIM than the mixed San Pedro alkaloids have. It all depends on what you prefer. Sometimes SWIM prefers the mixed alkaloids of San Pedro, especially when he wants to sit back, relax and have visions, because it's a much more dreamy state that it puts you in, and really geared towards close eye visions. Pure mescaline is more for interacting with reality because it lacks that dreaminess.

Thanks psychosis. I put the mix into a ziplock bag and the vinegar was clearly visable that way =)
I poked a small hole with a pin and let it fall into a pan. easy =) Thanks for the tip.

Now SWIM is just curious if 16ml is an appropriate amount for the 180ml limonene he got from this cactus mix

good lookin out ill let ya know how things flow

yes i was going to reccomend that but wasnt sure if the plastic would dissolve.. did you test with straight limonene first?

as for the amount of vinegar to use... excess is okay and i would lean towards it when dealing with extracting something so precious... i would still use 30ml or so at a time and do three-four pulls to be sure... (vinegar evaps)

make sure you shake the shit out of the solution you want them to mix very very well dont worry about emulsion

cool man, i'd be interested to hear...

Okay, SWIM was just wondering because he started with 50g cactus instead of 100. (even though as he described in a previous post, he used too much hydrated lime and compensated with ~300ml limonene). This 2nd pull he's doing 200ml, and 3rd he plans to do 150ml, should that be okay?

SWIM wasn't sure that limonene dissolving a temporary zip lock would be an issue, but he left just the limonene in the bag for about 30 minutes and nothing seemed to be dissolved at all.

SWIM's using an electric mixer to stir the vinegar + limo so he should be good there - however in the later hours he can't make the noise with the mixer... Will vigorous stirring with a spoon suffice?

id say five minutes on the mixer in major swirl mode would be more then sufficient
you really only need enough limonene to cover the cactus so keep that in mind...
sounds like your heading in the right direction good luck man! ask questions if you need help we are here to help!

Cool, thanks. So spoon stirring the vinegar/limonene is alright?

With his first vinegar pull SWIM put it in his oven at about 150F for 15-20 minutes and it turned into a brownish dried syrupy "indention" into the pan. He scraped it from the pan with a metal scraper and it's dry and crushed bark-ish light brown tan looking. He got a tiny on his fingers and tasted it - pretty bad! Extremely bitter. So it's done? No more evapping?

SWIM's a little apprehensive about using the oven again, or maybe at a lower temperature because the scraping is a pain, and he can still see the vinegar "dirt" that it left in the pan even after scraping.

The vinegar will evap even at room temperature right?

weird SWIY ate 316mg...that should have produced SOMETHING...christ SWIM has great experiences from 80-120mg

can the d-limoline be reused after its salted or is it only good for one pull?