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Non toxic food safe extraction of mescaline using d-limonene (orange oil) Options
 
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#201 Posted : 4/12/2009 9:33:09 AM
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Has anyone tried HBWR with it yet?


i wonder what the time dilation would be like?
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#202 Posted : 4/12/2009 9:38:32 AM

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that will have to be looked into :-D
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#203 Posted : 4/12/2009 9:42:32 AM

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SWIM has also been noticing that the low 60-80mg doses of this extract is just absolutely wonderful..its such a good antidepressant..

its so cheap to make that SWIM has just been handing out low(around 70mg) doses to his close friends...so far he says everybody is just loving it...he also says that he can feel it healing certain things in himself and the people that take it with him..its really amazing what feeling happy and excited about life will do for your morale..
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#204 Posted : 4/12/2009 11:21:54 AM

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#205 Posted : 4/12/2009 7:44:37 PM

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SWIM only got .4g from the first pull on 50g of dried peruvian chips. Isn't the majority of the yield in the first pull?? Not sure what vendors the people here are using but swim got his chips from "HP"

SWIM was kinda disappointed in such a low yield although it's close to the expected yield from most other mescaline teks he found online. The only way he deviated was that he stirred maybe 6 times over the course of 7 hours or so, rather than every 15 minutes (a stupidly missed detail on his part)


This tek doesn't seem to specify a time period, but SWIM can usually complete teks like this within only a few hours time (time spent on on more water intensive teks is generally spent waiting for separation to occur, not a factor in this tek). SWIM's not so sure that the first pull would necessarily always get the vast majority of the product in a tek like this; SWIM suspects that the mechanics of one's method would make more of a difference than this or the amount of time. No matter how much time SWIY puts into it, SWIM would suspect that if there are parts of your material that simply haven't been exposed to limonene, those parts simply won't yield.
 
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#206 Posted : 4/12/2009 9:51:09 PM

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i know it's been mentioned briefly a few times,
but would anyone care to share their thoughts on combining THH with san pedro extract or mescaline?
 
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#207 Posted : 4/12/2009 10:35:25 PM

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SWIM has done it and I believe a friend of Jorkest has also.

It's an interesting experience. For SWIM 200 mg of THH orally blocks the stimulant effects of mescaline, increases the euphoria, makes it more psychedelic, and increases the potency by about 2 times. It makes the experience very mellow with a slight ayahuasca feel. It's great for daydreaming or just kicking back and relaxing.
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#208 Posted : 4/13/2009 12:58:32 AM

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bless you
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#210 Posted : 4/13/2009 2:12:48 AM
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SWIM is working with 50g of dried torch as opposed to 100g as per the tek.. Does he half the amount of limonene and vinegar too?
 
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#211 Posted : 4/13/2009 2:34:32 AM

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Yes, half all ingredients.
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#212 Posted : 4/13/2009 2:51:25 AM

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69ron wrote:
The Torch extract will be more pure mescaline. San Pedro has a higher amount of other alkaloids present.

ron, can SWIY say anything more about the qualitative / experiential difference between pedro and torch extract? what about any differences in terms of the overall yield? difference in potency? swim is on a budget at this point and wishes to spend his money wisely, which he has not always done in the past... swim agrees that low dose cactus is AWESOME... just up to the point of the slightest visual effects has been the most euphoric for swim... swim went snowboarding one day after eating a few grams of torch and some cocoa nibs, which was great, and seemed to improve swim's riding...
 
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#213 Posted : 4/13/2009 3:23:20 AM
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69ron wrote:

I think that particular model you mentioned in your post earlier might be hard to use. Make sure it’s not polystyrene.

Here’s how to test it.

1 – Place the gravy separator upside down.
2 – Put a few drops of d-limonene on the bottom of the gravy separator. This way if it damages the plastic, only the bottom will be damaged slightly so it will still look nice and still be effective.
3 - Let it sit for about 30 minutes.
4 – Smear the d-limonene around the bottom. If it feels sticky, it dissolved some of the plastic so that plastic cannot be used. In this case just let the separator sit upside down until the d-limonene evaporates away and no hard is done to the separator.


SWIM just tried this with his "Norpro" fat separator.. There was no stick what so ever when he smeared d-limonene with his finger after 30 minutes.. The only thing he can find online about his separator is that an eBay seller described it as "Heavy Duty" plastic.. So it's not polystyrene? Should it be good to go with this tek?
 
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#214 Posted : 4/13/2009 3:23:26 AM

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ommani wrote:
69ron wrote:
The Torch extract will be more pure mescaline. San Pedro has a higher amount of other alkaloids present.

ron, can SWIY say anything more about the qualitative / experiential difference between pedro and torch extract? what about any differences in terms of the overall yield? difference in potency? swim is on a budget at this point and wishes to spend his money wisely, which he has not always done in the past... swim agrees that low doses of cactus are AWESOME... just up to the point of the slightest visual effects has been the most euphoric for swim... swim went snowboarding one day after eating a few grams of torch and some cocoa nibs, which was great, and seemed to improve swim's riding...



hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
i must try some theobromine with my 75mgs tomorrow morning
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#215 Posted : 4/13/2009 3:25:58 AM

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mapp wrote:

SWIM just tried this with his "Norpro" fat separator.. There was no stick what so ever when he smeared it with his finger after 30 minutes.. The only thing he can find online about his separator is that an eBay seller describes it as "Heavy Duty" plastic. So it's not polystyrene? Should it be good to go with this tek?



http://cgi.ebay.com/500m...;_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
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#216 Posted : 4/13/2009 3:31:35 AM

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psychosisdoses wrote:
i must try some theobromine with my 75mgs tomorrow morning

yeah, word on the street is that cocoa potentiates the cactus quite nicely...
http://www.entheogen.com...p;highlight=cactus+cocoa



 
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psychosisdoses wrote:
i must try some theobromine with my 75mgs tomorrow morning

yeah, word on the street is that cocoa potentiates the cactus quite nicely...
http://www.entheogen.com...p;highlight=cactus+cocoa






good lookin out ill let ya know how things flow
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#218 Posted : 4/13/2009 6:35:47 AM

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69ron wrote:
The Torch extract will be more pure mescaline. San Pedro has a higher amount of other alkaloids present.

ron, can SWIY say anything more about the qualitative / experiential difference between pedro and torch extract? what about any differences in terms of the overall yield? difference in potency? swim is on a budget at this point and wishes to spend his money wisely, which he has not always done in the past... swim agrees that low dose cactus is AWESOME... just up to the point of the slightest visual effects has been the most euphoric for swim... swim went snowboarding one day after eating a few grams of torch and some cocoa nibs, which was great, and seemed to improve swim's riding...


SWIM LOVES STRONG COFFEE WITH MESCALINE! If you haven't tried it DO IT! I think that's much better than mescaline with cocoa. But to be fair, SWIM never tried really strong cocoa with it.

The Torch extract feels like mescaline far more than San Pedro does. The Torch is unreliable. Sometimes it's very potent, sometime it's very weak. San Pedro is your best bet because it's potency is generally more predicable.

San Pedro has a lot of these amber/brown alkaloids in it that have their own psychedelic effects. SWIM has separated them and has experienced the non-mescaline San Pedro alkaloids on their own. They produce a relaxed peaceful dreamy state of mind, make you slightly numb, cause a pleasant tingling sensation in the body, and also cause visual effects which are unlike those of mescaline (things look strangely animated). When they are taken together with the mescaline, they mellow out the experience, making it more dreamy, more relaxed.

SWIM prefers PURE mescaline. The Torch is the closest to pure mescaline you can get using this type of vinegar based tech. Pure mescaline is more clear headed, more euphoric, and has less body load for SWIM than the mixed San Pedro alkaloids have. It all depends on what you prefer. Sometimes SWIM prefers the mixed alkaloids of San Pedro, especially when he wants to sit back, relax and have visions, because it's a much more dreamy state that it puts you in, and really geared towards close eye visions. Pure mescaline is more for interacting with reality because it lacks that dreaminess.
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#219 Posted : 4/13/2009 6:39:05 AM

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mapp wrote:
69ron wrote:

I think that particular model you mentioned in your post earlier might be hard to use. Make sure it’s not polystyrene.

Here’s how to test it.

1 – Place the gravy separator upside down.
2 – Put a few drops of d-limonene on the bottom of the gravy separator. This way if it damages the plastic, only the bottom will be damaged slightly so it will still look nice and still be effective.
3 - Let it sit for about 30 minutes.
4 – Smear the d-limonene around the bottom. If it feels sticky, it dissolved some of the plastic so that plastic cannot be used. In this case just let the separator sit upside down until the d-limonene evaporates away and no hard is done to the separator.


SWIM just tried this with his "Norpro" fat separator.. There was no stick what so ever when he smeared d-limonene with his finger after 30 minutes.. The only thing he can find online about his separator is that an eBay seller described it as "Heavy Duty" plastic.. So it's not polystyrene? Should it be good to go with this tek?


Yeah I'd say it passed the test and should be safe to use. If it doesn't dissolve the plastic after 30 minutes, the plastic is resistant to it enough to be used. D-limonene is pretty safe for most plastics. Is there a recycle code on the bottom?
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#220 Posted : 4/13/2009 8:15:12 PM
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69ron wrote:
D-limonene is pretty safe for most plastics. Is there a recycle code on the bottom?

Nope, no recycle code anywhere.

SWIM is currently on step 2 of this tek- waiting a few hours with the cactus and limonene. A few hours = 3 hours minimum?

Also, when SWIM weighed out the calcium hydroxide, he found that 1 gram weighed equalled approximately 1/2 a teaspon, so he used 6 teaspoons to equal about 12.5 grams, which is half of the 25g originally called for - because he's halfing everything to compensate for his 50g dried cacti...
But, a little more than 1/3 of his calcium hydroxide appears to have been used from this in his 100 gram bottle.. Could it just be an eye trick? If he added too much hydrated lime, should he have to add more limonene and vinegar?

His bowl with the cacti & limonene does not look like psychosis' picture example
http://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/resource.ashx?a=727
Instead, hardly any limonene is pourable, the rest seemed to be absorbed by the cacti mix =/

Edit: SWIM just poured his cacti/limonene mix from one bowl to another to see how much actual limonene is pouring..it's about 30-50ml.
Shouldn't all the original limonene that was added be pouring?

After about an hour of sitting and mixing, SWIM added about another 150ml limonene because things weren't seeming right. Does this reset the time to wait until adding vinegar?

SWIM is a little confused about whether or not he is to add 2x more vinegar, because although he's added 2x as much limonene, it was because he may or may not have screwed up the hydrated lime measuring. Confused
 
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