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First aya experience alone in the outdoors? Options
 
PukebeardThePirate
#1 Posted : 8/13/2013 6:15:54 PM
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As I mentioned in another thread, I'll soon be taking ayahuasca for the first time. I'm trying to decide whether to go alone into the wilderness, the way I did the first time I took mushrooms, or stay inside. Of course it would be prudent to stay in--but the voice of prudence is sometimes best ignored, as I learned (not for the first time) when I lost my psychedelic virginity by taking five grams of mushrooms alone in the forest. That turned out to be the best experience of my life, and I have no doubt it would have been greatly diminished if I'd been stuck inside a building. On the occasions when I've taken mushrooms indoors, I have always found myself wishing I were outdoors instead. The feeling that separation is an illusion is orders of magnitude more profound when I'm surrounded on all sides by living, dying, changing things.

But then, mushrooms don't make me puke my guts out and have explosive diarrhea, as I expect ayahuasca to do.

Any thoughts at all would be appreciated.
 

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#2 Posted : 8/13/2013 10:30:18 PM

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Me personally, I'd go outside I love drinking Aya or smoking some Changa under the stars. I might not recommend doing it alone but only you can answer weather or not your ready for that.

I wouldn't worry to much about getting explosive diarrhea I have never gotten that, but the vomiting is a real possibility. It is generally only once or twice on the come up but it can effect some people harder.

In the end I recommend doing it wherever you feel the most comfortable. Just be prepared wherever you decide to do it and stay safe.


wish you a great experience.

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#3 Posted : 8/13/2013 11:18:56 PM

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I would recommend not doing it outside your first time. You don't know how it will affect you and if you don't have anyone else there or a guide/shaman it could get pretty terrifying. My first experience was pretty brutal and I did it in the safety of my home, I can't imagine how it would have been if I was exposed outside.

You should do it somewhere you feel safe and secure. If you are suitably blown away, it's likely you won't be able to even remember where you are, so it wouldn't matter anyway. I haven't done any mushrooms so I can't directly compare the intensity, but I'd say that aya/DMT is about as out-there as you can get, so be prepared.
 
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#4 Posted : 8/13/2013 11:39:03 PM

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If you are hesitating between the 2, try and find a way to do both - a cottage or country house so you can start outside but have a safe haven indoors if things get challenging. This has always been the best recipe for me on high doses of mushrooms or home brewed aya. Wherever i do a good dose I always make sure i have a safe place identified prior to imbibing. For me it is a psychological necessity, particularly when tripping outdoors and alone.

Good luck!

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