Sometimes the familiarity I feel is tied to these sort of super-nostalgic infancy feelings. Who knows how infancy and DMT are connected. Sometimes it's something in the air, but it can also manifest in soft pastel colors or charming little lullabies and cute, adorable emotions and whatnot.

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There is also the explanation that the experience has nothing whatsoever to do with the brain, but the soul. Or, perhaps more accurately that when you are in deep meditation or smoking DMT that the brain is more synced up with the thoughts and feelings of the soul than it normally is. Maybe those feelings of familiarity found in hyperspace are exactly what they appear to be. Maybe those thoughts and feelings are Truth and the questioning and skepticism is the ego resisting the Truth.

The question really is whether you accept the existence of The Soul. Is the soul real or is it an illusion? From what I've experienced I'm inclined to say the The Soul is real and that the ego is an illusion; but, I can understand why others may not accept that.

If you accept that The Soul is the Eternal Self, the part of you that has lived before and will live again it could be said that hyperspace is the land of the dead; but, from this perspective it's more accurate to say that death is an illusion.

If you accept this explanation, then it follows that hyperspace/the astral plane is home for your soul. It follows logically that transcending your ego is returning to awareness or your True Self.

If you accept this as true then fear begins to die as you no longer accept that the death of the body is the end of you. By accepting this you find greater peace and joy in life.

But, it takes faith in the reality of these experiences and feelings to get that lingering sense of peace. It means that any time you question these experience you must decide to believe and every time you make that decision your body and soul move to a level of greater harmony.

So, ultimately the question you have to ask yourself is do you believe or not?

After years of journeying with psychedelics, I still am without a clue as to whether the visions are solely a product of my brain, or outside of me. In either case, DMT obviously has an effect on the brain. I have heard that experiments with DMT and psilocybin actually switch off certain parts of the brain. When these parts are switched off, it is as if the "consensus reality generating mechanism" (trade mark, I made that up ) is shut off, and our brains are allowed to wander. Whether they wander inwards, or into other dimensions is anyone's guess, but what this says to me, is that these states are always with us. Our minds are always connected somehow to these other realms, and under normal brain function, these states of mind are buried by our brain's inherent nature to anchor us to this consensus reality. I think this is why it feels so familiar. It's always been there! We were just never able to perceive it.

I have a hypothesis/theory that is too elaborate to fully describe here, but the crux of which is that DMT somehow disables parts of our mind that distinguish past from present and future, and other parts that allow us to recognize certain patterns and forms - and language and letters and memory and sound and so forth...

It then catapults us back to the moments we were forging our very first memories of all these things - a sort of baby's consciousness where terror and awe and fear and elation reign. This is why there is a prevalence of unrecognizable symbols, strange faces, new colours and sounds that sometimes evoke nursery rhymes, and shapes from infancy - toys and lego and jesters and clowns and disembodied, often incomprehensible authoritative voices... and where we innocently hop from emotion to emotion, unable to control our minds much like a baby before it learns how.

It is like we are experiencing it all again, but for the first time, from our long forgotten baby's mind interred in the folds of our own, adult consciousness.

And when we return, is it any wonder we don't remember large chunks? Our minds reassemble and discard information that is no longer congruent with our understanding of reality, and are unable to make sense of the nonsense that once reigned in our minds before we assembled it into little packets and stored it in our memories and built up the firmware to recognize pattern and symbols and harmony and rhythm.

A loose theory, but it is something I have held to be truthful for quite some time. Some day I will elaborate, write and share it.

JBArk

please do, it sounds interesting, I hadn't ever thought about it all that way before

jbark wrote:
..like your theorising..
it (hyperspace) does remind me of early childhood consciousness..i.e pre-language (or pre grammatical/spoken language)

as for not remembering large chunks, i also tend to think this is because the experience is non-linear (in a temporal and sequential language sense) ..our language based adult memory cannot describe/encode such states..

the kind of memory associated with the olfactory system may be better at recalling aspects (in non-linear packets), but our ordinary thinking minds cannot run a sequence or description out of this..
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I don't think i have seen it expressed anywhere either. It obviously doesn't cover the scope of DMT experience, though I have to say that most of my experiences have at least some elements to corroborate it.

I noticed a lot of trip reports over the years referenced toys (yes, lego in particular), nursery rhymes, rooms with children's beds, cradles, rocking horses and a hell of a lot with arcane symbols that vaguely resemble our alphabet - I had one terrifying experience where a golden shiny capital E-like symbol was flying at and right through me.

On salvia I have had my field of vision covered with fluffy ballooned-out school buses with a nursery rhyme-like choir chanting "it's wednesday, it's wednesday, it's wednesday...!", and had many experiences that were Charlie Brown like or composed of many primary coloured building blocks that somehow were, and were not, huge lego bricks...

All this got me thinking and reading more and more reports. It is actually astounding the frequency of this stuff recurring. On DMT there are at once seemingly millions of colours, both recognizable and unearthly, but on higher doses and in "breakthroughs" I have found that often big, blocky child-like primary colours prevail. Once on a fair amount of K piggy backed on some very pure MDMA and catapulted with a little N2O I ended a long journey past planet like structures in front of a very grand and red sparkling capital M (with rounded edged tops not the same but not unlike the McDonald's "M" ). It had a yellow background and somehow blue was involved, though i fail to articulate how. I felt, profoundly, that I had reached the "source", the root of everything, the sum and product of ALL. A capital M! surrounded by kindergarten primaries!

Somedy I'll sort through my notes and put it all down.

Cheers,

JBArk

I get a lot of those things. Sometimes all in the same scene. I go into it in some detail in my DMT Bedroom Sketch thread. If you scroll down to post #4, I included the color drawing. So yes - toys, children's bed, rocking horse, children's books on a bookcase, etc...all in one room. Elsewhere I've heard the lullabies - very high and tinny like a music box.

That post was exactly what I was thinking of when I wrote rocking horse and child's room! I couldn't remember who had written it. (Notice all the primary colours you used?)


I've had a feeling I am on to something for quite some time. Were I trained in science and had the political acumen to pull some purse strings for a grant, I would be researching it already!

1) On my first vape, a friend had loaded a chunk of orange gunk onto a piece of foil (that was in 1999, it would be many years later before I had another opportunity). I pulled in as much as my lungs could hold and held it in.

I immediately recognised/intuited hyperspace as parallel, always on, right here right now reality, an embedded realm, and that it was keenly familiar as the same space inhabited upon sloughing off the mortal coil.

My open eyes visual field was filled with a morphing geometric mandala consisting of precision ribbons of shifting rainbows - I have read elsewhere that this Mandala/Chrysanthemum perhaps relates to temporary activation of the 7th Chakra.

2) I conjecture that spice allows, by way of 6th and 7th chakra activation (a shift in assemblage point?) for temporary access to or perception of the Bardo.

Bardo: from wikipedia "Used loosely, the term "bardo" refers to the state of existence intermediate between two lives on earth. According to Tibetan tradition, after death and before one's next birth, when one's consciousness is not connected with a physical body, one experiences a variety of phenomena. These usually follow a particular sequence of degeneration from, just after death, the clearest experiences of reality of which one is spiritually capable, and then proceeding to terrifying hallucinations that arise from the impulses of one's previous unskillful actions. For the prepared and appropriately trained individuals the bardo offers a state of great opportunity for liberation, since transcendental insight may arise with the direct experience of reality, while for others it can become a place of danger as the karmically created hallucinations can impel one into a less than desirable rebirth."

I think the possibility should also not be overlooked that perhaps if those entities are in fact autonomous beings, then it could be possible that they undergo an infancy stage just as we do in which phase, they see it fit to care for and raise their babies in an analogous manner to how we raise our own (with charming lullabies) and toys, soft new colors, etc...as they attempt to project all the cute, loving, adorable emotions onto the newborn. In this potential scenario, I think it just so happens that sometimes we end up inhabiting those spaces for whatever reason, and take the place of the child entity.

I have seen a hyperspace baby being born before, and I know others have described witnessing this as well. In post #18 of this Just Met a Baby Entity thread (which is not my own) I briefly describe the experience.



I also came across this little Phantasmic Lullaby thread from 2011 which seems to have been a direct product of those "baby rooms".

I can't say anything about the familiarity of the experience because I've never been there, but basically DMT binds to certain Serotonin receptors, so our perception of normal brain generated reality like looking around your living room, noticing all the colors, textures and shapes which upon ingestion of DMT get completely blended and this new reality that suddenly forms is a reflection of however you're feeling on the inside (soul?). You no longer have the external world to go by, which has been completely cut off like being put in a isolation tank - you're left only to look within, whether that be within the inner most corners of the brains complex circuitry, or within the soul, or perhaps both at the same time. That said, the NDE is probably indeed related to DMT, neither of which are genuine death, because death is the absence of all five senses so it makes little sense to me how one would be able to perceive light when deprived of your retinas for example. If anything, death would be just a feeling, a floating state of awareness, just hovering somewhere void of all senses.... NDE's are different from hyperspace because before smoking DMT there is no sense of urgency, there is no "ok this is it". Instead you go in with the idea that you will be back in 10 minutes or so. I believe setting and mood would be a huge game changer in the outcome of a DMT trip.

There were some DMT trip reports I read of people meeting entities and upon sobering up the entities where in the same spot where their sitters and friends were - makes you think. Maybe you are sensing the presence of entities that are really there (whether here on earth or beyond) but your brain finds a way to show you them in a archetypal manner that you would understand? The fact that fear seems to be a common emotion in hyperspace also suggests that the sponge inside your skull is at least partly responsible for the experience because it is the general consensus that fear is a product of the Amygdala.

James Kent seems to think that the visual cortex is key to understanding the DMT experience, I would agree.

Ive been pondering on the nature of dmt for some time now so will air a few thoughts about it, firstly I must say I have no firm belief about what happens and the part it plays in human evolution I am open to ideas and forever learning, dmt is just one aspect albeit a large and significant one.

Despite my username I do not think dmt plays a part in dreams as for me they are qualitatively different, my dreams are not psychedelic or alien they are a fractured mish-mash of the material world on a surreal backdrop.
So imo the familiarity doesnt come from there however like many have said there is an infantile aspect, but there is bound to be it's new ground and the brain loves to make connections, thats what it does to maintain the human form.

So maybe the familiarity is from when we were a baby feeling loved and safe with family among the percieved chaos of what we were experiencing or possibly we are associating it with the birth of our awareness? That moment when our brain was initially plugged in to the universal conciousness, just before the birth of 'I'.

Regarding the purpose of dmt the idea prominent in my head recently is about reconnecting with mother nature.
Human beings began existence as tribal hunter gatherer/ forriagers, we as a species flourish best in wide open spaces among plants and wildlife.
So many people nowadays suffer mental illness or are simply unhappy because they live stacked on top of each other in synthetic environments consuming crap. Its unnatural. Its built on a death and decay culture, oil, alcohol, pesticides, war, destruction etc..
Ever since I was a scared child wandering through the woods in the dark have I felt the prescence of plant life. Then a bigger jump in awareness occured when I had my first acid as a teenager feeling the flora and fauna brush through my hands, I had connected at a deeper level and it felt so pure and right.
Maybe when we smoke dmt we reconnect with plantlife again and by turning the pinneal gland to full power (believed to have once been an eye) we see reality as a tree or all plantlife would see it, timeless and from many angles at the same time due to the shared concioussness that I believe plantlife has. However as humans we retain the humanity during the experience so it becomes a sort of synergised plant-human perspective that both 'sides' then experience simultaneously. Dmt is the bond and might enable the opening of lines of communication.
It could be one of the catalysts ( note I said one of, Im sure there are many) utilized by plants to return us to the healthty relationship we once shared with the planet and it is something that is entirely possible again.

Once we were all nothing and we were everything then for some unknown reason our fragment of the universal conciousness started to make itself at home in the basic chemical elements we know today then more then more complexities.
Like a smashed plate is individual pieces yet still part of the same whole.
To lose the ego on dmt is to experience being closer to the all and nothing again by having that plant-human perspective, maybe.
There are so many reports of people being at the 'source' or becoming god or feeling like they know and see everything. Is this a result of many years of subliminal and overt conditioning or are we actually living as the multi-versal conciousness during those few minutes or hours? With these visions being the brains interpretation? Without conditioning would we just be in a timeless colourless peaceful void during the breakthrough?
I would be very interested in reading an indiginous persons trip report ( whom hasnt had any consistent contact with the outside world especially religous contact or preaching) .

Another idea that crossed my mind is that dmt activates some sort of dark matter detector so what we see is dark energy and dark matter beings.

Yes global I too have been in a hyperspace playground that leads me to think if they are autonomous beings then they are obviously far more equipped than us to live in that dimension therefore would see us as babies and treat us as such. Or alternatively I refer to my paragraph about our brains trying to make sense of it by relating it to the most relevant memory. it has had, being a baby or young child.

I don't find this to be the case. The child's bedroom that I see for example is not some blending of sensory information or something of the sort. It essentially folds out of a sacred-looking gate like a multidimensional pop-up book.

There are a variety of rooms and places I go, and it doesn't matter much where I am on Earth to access them. I've lived in one house, smoked DMT, and would go to that place regularly, and then even once I moved somewhere completely different, hundreds of miles away, those same rooms are still accessible. Sometimes the entities are there, sometimes not, but there is furniture like couches, etc...but it's all pretty stable and consistent, and bizarrely complex.

That is not to say that what you describe cannot happen because it does, particularly at lower doses. The afterimage visual information of the room you're in can be mixed in and blended with hyperspace. There is an overlap of the two, but the further into the DMT realm you get with higher and higher doses, the less this blend seems to take place, and the more of hyperspace you tend to get, as opposed to the more of "you".



This article indicates a study done with psilocybin in which the findings went starkly against the researchers' hypothesis. While they believed, that psilocybin would increase activity in the visual cortex, their findings showed that there was decreased blood flow and cerebral activity in various parts of the brain, and that "no increases in cerebral blood flow or BOLD signal were found in any brain region." Because psilocybin's active metabolized form of psilocin (4-HO DMT) is so close in chemical structure and effect to DMT, it stands to reason that the visual cortex is probably not all too important in the case of DMT either, or at least not "key".

This is without a doubt the most fascinating part of DMT. My theory on this is basically an idea that was presented to me as truth while breaking through. I first experienced a cybernetic alien syntax that spoke at an incredible rate in distorted sound intervals that would reinforce itself in a series of loops. At that time, something was trying it's absolute hardest to show me an idea of some sort. I felt like this intelligence told me that the plane I had entered was not a mere mental illusion, but my true home. Immediately, I recognized this so simply, without any philosophical or religious hesitations; this was where I was before I was born, this is where I will be when I die.

The knowledge of this hit me very hard. This seemingly chaotic place began to feel like love. And that was the only truth I knew. I still entertain this idea with scrutiny because everything I have perceived as important afterwards is revealed to be contrived upon further thoughts and pales into the comparison of what I had been shown. I've described it to others as "returning home".

I have experiences like yours. If that's where we go when we die (not sure what to think) then I've got a comfy mansion abode just a callin' my name in hyperspace.