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Infectedstyle
#1 Posted : 8/8/2013 4:33:59 AM
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Atleast, I think i just discovered something really quite important in understanding how the DMT operates on the human brain.

Straight to the point, i tried mixing delta brainwave sounds with DMT.
Result: MALFUNCTION!

I left my computer on and decided on a really low dose of DMT. To "meditate" was my intention.

Dose: 10-20mg in one hit.
Effect: Feint CEV, Red coloured dots/shapes of light scattered in my vision representing an entity + Contact & Non-verbal communication

My computer was on, and i had a pre-set of sounds ready containing Delta brain waves. Which gives a pressurized feeling on the brain when listened to in sober.

Entity: You have your computer on, and you took a low dose. How disrecpectful!
I: Here look. I want to try this and turned on the music.

The entity went crazy! It demanded i turn it off, NOW. It gave off mixed feelings of anger and deperation. it truly screamed in agony. (NVC, mind you, no audio hallucinations here)

It 'buzzed' my brain heavily. a very invasive buzz. One i recognize from earlier experience where an entity 'buzzed' my brain to express anger.

I listened to the sounds for a few more seconds and watched what was happening to my CEV. It was not good , i turned off the sound including the computer.

The feint red cev dots/patterns where now scattered and fractured pieces. It was not pretty. I was scared to look at it so i kept my eyes open until it didn't cover my entire CEV.

As for the entity; It had forgave me, saying it's not my fould and i could not have known. However, it said that "it has to probe and find it's way out of my brain like a maze. " Something surely got lost in translation here...

I experienced the cev and buzzing for 15-20 minutes. Much longer than the usual of ~7 minutes. I left the scatted CEVs to deal with the situation on it's own. And turned my attention to other entities inside my body.

Well.. There you have it, i tried to give as much information as possible to help analyze the situation. My theory is that external entities use my brain to operate and communicate with me. Brainwaves have such a massive effect on this mechanism that they can disrupt the communication. The magnetic/electric forces around my body are possibly serving as the entities workspace to probe on my brain. The dmt simply allows me to better visualize as this is going on.

Much of this is speculation. What is not, is that brainwave sound and dmt do not mix, based on this one experience. With higher doses this is possibly quite dangerous..

I seriously advice you not to try this, perhaps once in purely scientific fashion. But i'd be careful taking this stuff in conjuction with for example an fMRI or "God helmet"
 

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#2 Posted : 8/8/2013 5:28:47 AM

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Wait. What other entities inside your body? If this way you described disrupts these entities from feeding off your life force, all the better. Or was the external entity a good entity? What about the ones inside you?
 
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#3 Posted : 8/8/2013 7:43:15 AM

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I have taken DMT and ayahuasca possibly a hundred times with brainwave sync and binaural beats stuff..especially alpha frequencies with good results.
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#4 Posted : 8/8/2013 7:50:52 AM

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Sounds to me more like some issues with ideas of proper use of the substance than interfering with an entity's "interface". Then again, I'm not one to consider the existence of entities on an ontological basis... Either way, myself and many, many, many other people have used binaural frequencies and DMT to fantastic effect, and It's not often that folks have a hard time with it.
 
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#5 Posted : 8/8/2013 2:20:50 PM

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I say repeat the experiment a few times and see if
There's a similar result
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#6 Posted : 8/8/2013 2:48:10 PM

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Felnik - awesome advice. If one wants to know truly if a discovery is made, one must repeate the same values to get a concrete result for that evaluation.
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The Neural
#7 Posted : 8/8/2013 3:03:28 PM

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Infectedstyle wrote:
But i'd be careful taking this stuff in conjuction with for example an fMRI or "God helmet"


Why would you be careful to take DMT in conjunction with fMRI (besides the risk of manifesting a claustrophobic state)?

What does fMRI has to do with brain waves?

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#8 Posted : 8/8/2013 3:42:25 PM
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Ohh, let me explain guys. I apologize for premature shouting off-the rooftops. My humble apologies. i'll try to adress everyone.

Handel wrote:
Wait. What other entities inside your body? If this way you described disrupts these entities from feeding off your life force, all the better. Or was the external entity a good entity? What about the ones inside you?


Well.. That's a different story. Yes, it was a good entity. The other entity i am not so sure of, it pops up in my dmt experiences and during pranayama breathing. I already shut off my computer when it popped up.

jamie wrote:
I have taken DMT and ayahuasca possibly a hundred times with brainwave sync and binaural beats stuff..especially alpha frequencies with good results.


Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
Sounds to me more like some issues with ideas of proper use of the substance than interfering with an entity's "interface". Then again, I'm not one to consider the existence of entities on an ontological basis... Either way, myself and many, many, many other people have used binaural frequencies and DMT to fantastic effect, and It's not often that folks have a hard time with it.


What happens for you? Where there entities present? Do you have some of this written down? I agree, it is probably my ideas of proper use that got mixed up here. Also, thinking about it. The images could well have been forming a more coherent pattern. I coulden't find other people's experience using the search function, could you give me some explanation as to what to expect?

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Infectedstyle wrote:
But i'd be careful taking this stuff in conjuction with for example an fMRI or "God helmet"


Why would you be careful to take DMT in conjunction with fMRI (besides the risk of manifesting a claustrophobic state)?

What does fMRI has to do with brain waves?


It is the invasive magnetic forces that scare me a little bit. Possibly resulting in unhealthy situations in the body. I felt a little bit dizzy and a mild headache after my experience with delta waves. It's just a hunge to be careful. Artificial manipulation of the human aura might result in an uncontrollable and very scary experience. I have linked brainwaves with Magnetic resonance because the god helmet has the ability to change the brain's function using magnetic fields. But im no scientist.

As for the danger of magnetic manipulation. If we where to use strong magnets to manipulate the sun, we could potentially destroy the earth and perhaps the sun by forcing premature solar flares.

This is all wide-eyed speculation guys. Please take it with a grain of salt. I apologize for talking too much. I will do more tests. I'm just a little bit anxious because the length of hallucinations doubled. I was fearing irreversible damage.
 
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#9 Posted : 8/8/2013 3:52:06 PM

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^ Okay, it's because you sounded very certain of your findings. Taken with a pinch of salt (or a jug). We are exposed to electromagnetic radiation everyday, especially from the universe. Don't think it messes up with our brains unless it's 4 Tesla and up (fMRI is anywhere between 1-3 Tesla).

Btw, regarding your speculation about the sun and magnets, the fMRI magnet strength compared to what you suggest would destroy the sun, is nothing more than a fart in a northern blizzard.

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#10 Posted : 8/8/2013 6:37:16 PM

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"It is the invasive magnetic forces that scare me a little bit. Possibly resulting in unhealthy situations in the body."

Do you have smart meters in your home?
Do you use a cell phone?
Do you own a microwave?
Do you have wireless internet?
DO you live close to a cell tower?

All of those things are going to cause electro-magnetic disturbances in your body, that would be more cause of worry IMO than some alpha brainwave sync. The Schumann resonance of the earth itself is within the alpha range roughly at 8 hertz(just below 8 ).. All of your electronic equipment and especially anything wireless putting out microwaves is going to disturb that. Going into alpha could be described as like syncing up with the brainwaves of the planet.

I am paranoid so I threw out my cell phone, got all wired internet, put a fat steel cage around my analogue meter and refused a smart meter, threw out my microwave and put orgonite all over my house to help with cell towers etc. People think I am crazy but I don't care. I don't think all that low frequency electromagnetic radiation is good for people.

My point is, unless you are walking around in some virgin forest away from civilization you are being bombarded with all kinds of magnetic fields that mess with your biology.
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#11 Posted : 8/8/2013 6:53:51 PM

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Infectedstyle wrote:
What happens for you? Where there entities present? Do you have some of this written down? I agree, it is probably my ideas of proper use that got mixed up here. Also, thinking about it. The images could well have been forming a more coherent pattern. I coulden't find other people's experience using the search function, could you give me some explanation as to what to expect?

I don't generally experience entity contact, only when in an unstable emotional state, or when I choose to look at things that way. Not to step on any spiritual toes here, but entities are just one way of looking at things. You can understand it via entities, vibrations, communications or menstruation, and it will manifest itself as such. Look at it another way, and it will change accordingly.

Given that you seem to be prone to paranoia toward things you do not understand, like magnetic waves and binaural frequencies, as well as being willing to entertain some wild ontological beliefs like auras and external entities; it's not surprising that you would have some very weird reactions to very mundane, commonplace activities (like smoking DMT to binaural beats). Having a complex and unstable belief system will make everything weird, sober or not. Sometimes it's helpful to take a step back from the psychonaut meme and take a look at things from a wider angle.
-The irrational interpretation is that there are external entities that are upset by your combined use of binaural frequencies and DMT, which restricts their communication with you.
-A rational interpretation may be that it was a meaningless hallucination (those happen), or that this was a manifestation of your own psychological conflicts over your ideas of how the substance should be properly used, which appeared as an alien entity because it is for whatever reason more compatible with your belief system and emotional boundaries.

Remember: DMT makes you hallucinate! Rolling eyes
 
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#12 Posted : 8/8/2013 9:27:25 PM

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It makes sense to me that your visuals were fractured and scattered after turning off the music/sound. The thing about external sounds is that they do IME seem to be inextricably linked to hyperspace, and they do entrain it. If the entity had a particular plan for you, a particular demonstration, or "gift" or vision or whatever, the interfering sound could create quite the interference. Now what I've learned is that when I have music playing, I do not turn it off mid song. While the music is pulling them along, the sharp, sudden stop in the music is often more than enough to derail the experience and leave everything in shambles. Also, as silly as it may sound, certain entities may have certain tastes in music. While an entity that might be literally more on the same frequency as the one you're playing, you yourself will probably have a better experience. When the music is "in phase" with and is complimentary to their intentions as opposed to inhibiting, both they and you will be less displeased.
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#13 Posted : 8/8/2013 9:35:47 PM

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I have used brainwave tones/binaural beats many times with positive results.

I listen to a lot of jonathan goldman while experimenting with dmt, and he uses lots of special frequencies and binaural beats that seem to have positive effects on me.
 
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#14 Posted : 8/9/2013 7:50:43 AM

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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
Infectedstyle wrote:
What happens for you? Where there entities present? Do you have some of this written down? I agree, it is probably my ideas of proper use that got mixed up here. Also, thinking about it. The images could well have been forming a more coherent pattern. I coulden't find other people's experience using the search function, could you give me some explanation as to what to expect?

I don't generally experience entity contact, only when in an unstable emotional state, or when I choose to look at things that way. Not to step on any spiritual toes here, but entities are just one way of looking at things. You can understand it via entities, vibrations, communications or menstruation, and it will manifest itself as such. Look at it another way, and it will change accordingly.

Given that you seem to be prone to paranoia toward things you do not understand, like magnetic waves and binaural frequencies, as well as being willing to entertain some wild ontological beliefs like auras and external entities; it's not surprising that you would have some very weird reactions to very mundane, commonplace activities (like smoking DMT to binaural beats). Having a complex and unstable belief system will make everything weird, sober or not. Sometimes it's helpful to take a step back from the psychonaut meme and take a look at things from a wider angle.
-The irrational interpretation is that there are external entities that are upset by your combined use of binaural frequencies and DMT, which restricts their communication with you.
-A rational interpretation may be that it was a meaningless hallucination (those happen), or that this was a manifestation of your own psychological conflicts over your ideas of how the substance should be properly used, which appeared as an alien entity because it is for whatever reason more compatible with your belief system and emotional boundaries.

Remember: DMT makes you hallucinate! Rolling eyes


Its all in our imagination?.....Thumbs down

Much of your response was presumptuous. That, I do not presume.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes Stop
 
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#15 Posted : 8/9/2013 7:51:46 AM
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Wow, thank you for all the honest respones. I love all of you guys, and you make me feel really great. I am almost falling asleep here, so another apology in case i have missed anything. Here's how i have written my responses i have written before i was about to turn off my computer and go to bed.

Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
mundane, commonplace activities (like smoking DMT..


You have to admit, That is almost contradicting yourself here. Razz

Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
Infectedstyle wrote:
What happens for you? Where there entities present? Do you have some of this written down? I agree, it is probably my ideas of proper use that got mixed up here. Also, thinking about it. The images could well have been forming a more coherent pattern. I coulden't find other people's experience using the search function, could you give me some explanation as to what to expect?


-A rational interpretation may be that it was a meaningless hallucination (those happen), or that this was a manifestation of your own psychological conflicts over your ideas of how the substance should be properly used, which appeared as an alien entity because it is for whatever reason more compatible with your belief system and emotional boundaries.


Not 'alien'.. Entities mostly appear formless to me. Just present, serving as a guiding force. They wear different colours and different shapes. Some feel specifically male, some female. I have a male head on a stone figure (blue), and a female head on a stone figure (yellow/orange). The female is quite lovely and deals with love. It took me to a dark place that looks an awful lot like hell. Said it had to show me something. This was one of my first experience and i resisted. The male one is quite angry at times, and very stern. The male one gets particularly angry when i try to ignore it, or when i do not pay enough attention. Resulting in negative experiences. (Atleast, useless in the perspect of learning anything out of it besides that it is wise not to ignore this guy)

If these entities are a part of me, and able to speak to me as if they are Not a part of me, controlling my hallucinations and experience through my body. It is self-evident they need a working brain to operate on.

I admit though, i entertain a pretty complex and unstable worldview. That's why my motto is much like Terence Mckenna's belief system: "I don't believe in belief".

Global wrote:
If the entity had a particular plan for you, a particular demonstration, or "gift" or vision or whatever, the interfering sound could create quite the interference.


This, looking back at the night. This is the most rational and logical explanation to my experiences.

I have written down 80% of my dmt experiences. And it seems, that on basis of how i behaved and what i learned from my experiences, the other has gained a certain view of me. And this experience was hand-tailored for me as a test or rites of passage of what's to come. It woulden't suprise me at all if this was a pre-determined showcase sub-breakthrough, It explains the disappointment because i messed it up their plans with me by taking a low dose AND having my computer on. I still propose that i possibly destroyed any communication on any other wave besides delta and i'm really glad i listened to my instincts and took the big hit shortly after.

You can find the experience here, if you are interested. It's a hasty write-down. And it is quite a personal journey i have with dmt. I can't quite explain why i feel this way, but i think the entities are sentient and have been getting to know me in my course of smoking dmt. And they treat me on the basis of how i interacted with them in the dmt environment.
 
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#16 Posted : 8/9/2013 7:57:08 AM

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Thank you Infectedstyle!

It was informative and a great contribution to the DMT Beta Testers out there. =)
 
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THE RABBIT HOLE wrote:


Its all in our imagination?.....Thumbs down

Much of your response was presumptuous. That, I do not presume.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes Stop

God forbid somebody play the devil's advocate without being fingered for the Devil himself, huh?

Infectedstyle wrote:
You have to admit, That is almost contradicting yourself here.

See, you're catching the drift!
 
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#18 Posted : 8/9/2013 2:43:40 PM

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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
A rational interpretation may be that it was a meaningless hallucination (those happen)

THE RABBIT HOLE wrote:
Its all in our imagination?.....Thumbs downn:

Much of your response was presumptuous. That, I do not presume.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes Stop


You do see the "may", as well as the "a" (one of), don't you? How is that absolute?

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#19 Posted : 8/9/2013 8:27:44 PM

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The Neural wrote:
Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
A rational interpretation may be that it was a meaningless hallucination (those happen)

THE RABBIT HOLE wrote:
Its all in our imagination?.....Thumbs downn:

Much of your response was presumptuous. That, I do not presume.

Only the Sith deal in absolutes Stop


You do see the "may", as well as the "a" (one of), don't you? How is that absolute?


I just had to throw a Star Wars quote in there some how =).
 
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#20 Posted : 8/9/2013 10:30:32 PM
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THE RABBIT HOLE wrote:


I just had to throw a Star Wars quote in there some how =).


Lol Laughing
 
 
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