Good afternoon, fellow psychonauts. It has been a few months since I began to synthesize spice per following the STB teks of the nexus. So I thought that I would finally take the plunge and register ^_^

What follows is my very inadequate experience with spice, but also my incredibly extensive dextromethorphan undertakings. I was raised a fundamentalist Christian, and it was the dex that finally saved me from it. Of course, if it's working for someone on here, then more power to them. But that religion definitely wasn't working for me. Questions plagued my mind...and dex had the answers (albeit at a pace that I wished was faster). After several years of wondrous chronic use, I had finally achieved a level of harmony that I could only have ever dreamed about in my miserable late teens and early 20's. It was therapeutic--the best kind of therapy yet--and it seemed to be effective for many of my other friends as well. Keep in mind, though, that it was only at 720mg to 1080mg doses (and most of the time it was at 720mg). The mind is not overwhelmed at these doses. That is, I was able to pull down information to my normal sober mind and create a new level of love that I could give to the world. I was also confronted with many new thoughts which seemed to parallel certain mythologies and paradigms. For instance--I ran into many many beings on what I and my friends call the "astral plane." These beings were very elemental, and seemed to have particular areas of origin. We categorized these areas as dense or light, and we noted that some of our friends tended to stay in the dense areas while others the lighter areas. But the most significant discovery of all was our agreement about what happened when we tripped together. My friend, let's call him J, begins to talk about seeing me on a bridge inside of his experience. Meanwhile, I was just about to elatedly ask him if he had seen or been close to a bridge. This happened several, several times, and was not a product of our decreased CNS activity. We are sober enough not to inflate our own experiences to include someone else's account. The synchronicity of dextromethorphan is real--at least to me--and has changed my life.

If you've made it to this paragraph, I'm impressed. But I have a lot to say, so bear with me. My first few times doing the spice, I did not have a breakthrough. Part of it was poor lighting technique. When I finally did, it was at a friend's house surrounded in an unfamiliar environment. Big mistake. As the breakthrough set in, I found myself in an alternate timeline where my friends were calling an ambulance and making a big deal over my lack of response. It turns out, none of that truly happened. This was significant to me, because reality had always had a certain frequency which I could identify. But this destroyed me in a way that could not be anticipated, no matter what I did. In a later breakthrough with a friend (who was also having a breakthrough), I noticed that I was able to control it WAY more effectively. Indeed, for some reason his breakthroughs always issued him more control than me or my friend "J". Feeling that I had level'd up like some sort of RPG character, I anticipated a breakthrough with more control. Uh uh. I was decimated when I did it by myself yet again. I learned many things--and couldn't stop saying, "We're all connected." Anyway, I suppose if there's any takeaway lesson from this, it's that certain people can ground themselves in a lower "density" and help others to perform similar tasks. Of course, I welcome feedback or correction in all of this, as I still have very much to learn about this new frontier.

I look forward to any responses, and hope to be a valid contribution here.

Ah, and as an aside. I have background as a psychology graduate student (specifically in neuroscience). So if there are any discussions about that, I hope to be of assistance! Thanks for reading!

~MindBolt~

I have yet to step up and extract it myself, but if i was too i would look at the table i have that shows the level of DMT in different relevant plants.

Hi, MindBolt!

I just came to share some sentiments I've had.
DXM, to me, has been *strange*, mind-clearing, but stagnant and thoughtless. It cleared out myths from my mind, simply by quieting my mind. There's something particular about this state of mind, something to be forgotten and then learned. Then again, I never took the doses you talk about. These are just my memories from the 350mg or so dose range.

It has just led me to a dead-end, personally. It lead me inward, but then turned my insides out. It feels unnatural to me. And the vibe it gives after using it for too long is this inability to turn over new connections in the mind. Just that thoughtless dextro-gaze. Just malaise. Moon medicine in the extreme.

Plus, it becomes very hard to empathize or sympathize with other people. That was a real problem for me, not knowing what it was like to be a normal human.

To contrast, psilocybin is the opposite way; rapid integration of new ideas, intense feelings, sensual delight, revelations about the nature of the world.
Psychedelics seem to be the antidote, for me. Not like, "Oh, let's go get trashed, and then clean it up later," but the path to balance.

I don't know if you've had an experience like mine, but I think it's be a good thing to be said.
I've never had spice, but I'm taking it slow with mama aya and father rue. It's beautiful, and I wish you well fellow traveler.

^_^

Thanks for the reply. I have been extracting from mimosa hostilis. So far the yields have been decent, but could be better.

kerelsk: Just like ibogaine and many other drugs, dissociatives tend to produce a state of nausea. Luckily, many of the hallucinogens do not. At 360mg of dex, or one bottle of RobitussinDM (20 capsules or the nasty liquid), the malaise and nausea tend to dominate the experience. This quickly becomes a standard procedure for the brain to say, "Oh it's this stuff again" and immediately produce a negative response.

If you ever decide to do dex again, I recommend taking two bottles of the capsules in the early evening with trance music going (or whatever music launches you). If you throw up, or the experience is hampered, take another two bottles the next day. Of course, I like to do this on a weekend after work as a sort of "reward" for getting through the week. Deep breathing in zazen with lots of water tends to do the trick. If you've ever seen House, he does ketamine in one episode. The kind of trip he experiences is very similar to the journeys that I've had. But they've also been OBE's, traveling to eastern temples, and metaphorical sightseeing.

Admittedly, I have never done psilocybin. But that may become a possibility for me in the upcoming weeks. So I am very excited about that, and your post has made me even more excited.

~MindBolt~