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Explaining a DMT breakthru to someone who hasn't done it Options
 
teveo
#1 Posted : 8/5/2013 12:10:25 PM
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For my first post I wanted to try and describe what breaking through on DMT is like for someone who has never done DMT (but who might be intrigued about it).

Many things in life can be thrilling and scary; in fact, being scared is an integral part of the thrill. We go bungee jumping, take a ride on a roller coaster or, hell, if we have access to nothing more high tech as kids we might even hold our breath as long as we can. The fun part of a thrill is the danger we expose ourselves to.

I had a breakthrough experience smoking DMT tonight and, as many of you longtimers who are reading this know, relating what you actually feel during those moments pretty much defies description. It is just something so out there, so without parallel in the realm of ordinary life that words alone can't even begin to match the actual experience. How would you explain colors to the blind or music to the deaf? There is no organ dedicated to detecting the shower of signals that make up a DMT (or Salvia!) experience. You only get access to this "organ" during the brief interlude when you've pulled the smoke into your lungs and wait for the whammy that's sure to come.

But for the uninitiated we can approximate the experience by way of metaphors.

Picture the thrill of skydiving. You harness up and walk out to the tarmac. You're psyched and there is a lot of communal energy among your dive mates. You get into the plane and take off and you feel a surge of anxiety and nervousness and excitement all rolled into one. And this surge just keeps on growing until the pilot levels off the climb and gives the signal. You step at the doorway and feel the power of the wind - or more accurately hurricane since you're likely flying at 150mph or more - and you are at the moment of truth.

DMT is sooort of like that. Except you're sitting down (hopefully!) and the excitement and anxiety buildup is scrunched into a mere few seconds while you light up your bowl and inhale. When you set down your bong or other smoking device you are at the moment of truth. There is a gateway and a hurricane awaiting you. You let slip your moorings and.... jump!

Now with parachuting as you leave the plane you are feeling an intense rush during those first few seconds. OH GOD WHATHAVEIDONESHIIIIIT but the scare is a happy, exciting allover tingle that you are enjoying intensely and the remote possibility of the 'chute not opening is the necessary ingredient to transform the ordinary into the extraordinary.

Cut back to the DMT trip: You have set the bong down and you may well say in your head the very same things as the plane jumper. Except you didn't jump out of an ordinary plane but rather a DIMENSIONAL plane. That vehicle you left and are falling away from so fast is the very personification of your sanity. And rather than looking 10,000 feet down to earth where you are to make your landing you are instead staring at the event horizon into a parallel reality that is absolutely ineffable in quality. You have in this moment no words to describe what you are sensing because you have left behind the equipment in charge of creating rational thought and the power of descriptive analysis in an airplane that is now far, far away from your reach.

And you are alone. You are so goddamn alone. Out in this ether falling towards a singularity that is not within your power to relate to. When it is said that you are experiencing ego loss what that means is that you are in a sensory deprivation tank with all brain circuits shut down except for the ones in charge of experiencing visual stimuli and the one responsible for experiencing panic - and both of those circuits are being overloaded! The winds of the dive through the atmosphere are here replaced with primal elements whizzing by at incalculable speed. There are crazy, colorful and disjointed hallucinations that come in sheets, waves, strings and sundry fragments of pseudo-reality of impossible geometries. You hear a psychotic, oscillating hum perhaps with a tinge of sub-audible chatter. Touch, too, is malformed so that if you happen to brush a surface you'll only sense a dirtied texture that shouldn't be. Everything feels wrong. And you, all the meanwhile, are rendered senseless to take any note or appreciation of the experience; much like tossing a just-thawed-out caveman onto Times Square on New Year's eve.

As you approach the ground on your gentle ride back down to your landing site your mind is swirling with euphoria. This is so effin cool man!! WOW, yippeee! God that was scary, can't wait to do it again! On the other hand, the DMT breakthrough exhausts itself slowly and tiny pores of reality - this reality, Terra Firma - open like fleeting portholes. You are not yet capable of thought as such because most of your mind's processors are still offline. Your sight works, sort of, except it's been given a sheen or filter that only relays the vaguest inkling of familiar surroundings. Eons ago this locale resembled somewhere you have been before. Perhaps you sense this much with all the computing power of your average housefly. Familiar surroundings draped in electric veneers of alien-looking symbols; a mocking, cruel and twisted facsimile of somewhere faintly memorable but still distant and incomprehensible.

SLAP! You hit the ground and momentarily bounce off the dirt as the wind catches your parachute and then, like a dying kite, it falls to the ground too. Your trip is over. Your heart though is still racing and your mind is bathed in dopamine and a healthy dose of whatever neurotransmitter is responsible for shit-your-pants scary with the sum effect that you just had a fantastic blast that you'll never forget.

DMT's hold on your psyche is now waning too and the visual filters are slowly easing their grip. You can literally feel more of your brain's various sectors waking up and taking command. You can't talk yet for if you do all that comes out is babbling but that which was faintly familiar is now fully so even if still bedecked with otherworldly auras. If you see, for example, your hand (as I did during my trip) you at some level recognize that thing as perhaps yours but you have no idea how to operate it nor what you would operate it for. And then you regain the ability to move and a few seconds later you can think again in almost-whole sentences even. And you take your first bold steps into speech which is yet undeveloped and sounds to your inner ear like the scratchy voice of a century old grammophone come to life in grandma's attic. Then you can tell your sitter or friends or SO (assuming you didn't go at this solo) what just happened to you but your words are simple and the thoughts not yet fully formed. You keep tuning out while the residual waves of DMT die down and you can compose yourself.

And so on, little by little, you are welcome back to your self. And much as in the case of the skydiver for the next few hours pretty much ALL you can think about is what you went through. And you try to tell those around you, those who never left on this incredible voyage, what it was like. You summon details and all the adjectives within your grasp to explain so that they too can vicariously feel what just happened. But deep down you know your descriptive efforts fail to convey the sense, the rush, the abject terror!

ps. I had a very similar experience on Salvia a few nights ago and you can read the report here http://www.hipforums.com...showthread.php?p=7727135

Thanks for reading :-)
 

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#2 Posted : 8/5/2013 2:07:31 PM
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This was excellent Smile I nominate it for Pulitzer Prize Smile Hehe. I never did DMT, just the 4-OH kind ... But soon I will be researching 5-MeO-DMT ... Can you write one of these introductions for that? I would absolutely love to read that one! Like at 10mg, 20mg and 40mg ...

Anyway, LOVED THIS, it is almost as good to read as it is to try. Reading posts like this is almost as trippy as the real thing Smile hahahaha ...
 
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#3 Posted : 8/5/2013 2:14:25 PM
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Which president promised "a chicken in every pot" ? I can't afford meat anymore, so it would be nice if we got a president that would promise "a little DMT in everyone's pot" ... I can only wonder how the world would change if some sort of psychedelic was part of every high-school graduation requirement.

Honestly, I think politicians and other criminal types would have a complete (ego) melt-down, and it would weed the country free of them if we could see their Psychedelic 101 grades before voting.
 
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#4 Posted : 8/5/2013 8:24:12 PM
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2cb wrote:
This was excellent Smile I nominate it for Pulitzer Prize Smile Hehe. I never did DMT, just the 4-OH kind ... But soon I will be researching 5-MeO-DMT ... Can you write one of these introductions for that? I would absolutely love to read that one! Like at 10mg, 20mg and 40mg ...

Anyway, LOVED THIS, it is almost as good to read as it is to try. Reading posts like this is almost as trippy as the real thing Smile hahahaha ...


Thank you for the kind words! Well, I'll make you a deal heheh. [Mod Edit: No!]

I wish I wasn't so broke boo!
 
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#5 Posted : 8/5/2013 11:09:22 PM

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teveo wrote:

And you, all the meanwhile, are rendered senseless to take any note or appreciation of the experience; much like tossing a just-thawed-out caveman onto Times Square on New Year's eve.


Great analogy Thumbs up It was all very well-put, and would certainly make a nice intro for the uninitiated.
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#6 Posted : 8/5/2013 11:46:51 PM

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teveo wrote:
....the DMT breakthrough exhausts itself slowly and tiny pores of reality - this reality, Terra Firma - open like fleeting portholes.


Beautiful! That's the bit I always struggled to put into words. Really super post. Really enjoyed how you expressed it.

best wishes Thumbs up

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#7 Posted : 8/6/2013 12:22:23 AM

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Are you a writer, or an english major? I enjoyed that, made me excited just reading it.
 
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#8 Posted : 8/6/2013 12:35:38 AM
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adam wrote:
Are you a writer, or an english major? I enjoyed that, made me excited just reading it.


Well, actually, MOD edit: please refrain from posting info that may be used to track your in real life.
 
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#9 Posted : 8/6/2013 7:23:32 AM

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Encylopedia of Roman Emperial coins? just post a link?
 
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#10 Posted : 8/6/2013 3:12:44 PM

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Excellently well written translation of a breakthrough! Kudos to you!

(but you should remove that hint in the later post regarding your real identity. It is discouraged here - your anonymity protects you, but also protects this place and everyone else on it)

Years ago I wrote my own little version after my first breakthrough, and I thought I'd share it here:



"I think I have come up with an apt analogy for my first breakthrough, if indeed it was one :

Imagine the utter terror experienced by a newborn: jettisoned from the womb, umbilical cord clipped, drawing in its first gulp of air and opening its eyes to the hostile light of the world for the first time; oxygen flooding virgin lungs, a whole cardiopulmonary system shocked into action, those little orbs set in a tiny skull that have never seen more than the dim red glow of placenta being opened to a universe of reflection and refraction, shards of light bounding around in a seeming assault, a barrage of alien colour and intensity; and the sounds - never such cacophony, billowing around the small cartilaginous shells that heretofore have heard no more than the dull distant thud of their mother's heart, now subjected to screeching frequencies unimaginable...

I have to think of my experience as a birth for it to make sense. Something that will soften to some level of comprehension, or at the very least diminished violence, in subsequent trips, like the newborn slowly adapting to a novel, strange reality...

And the death of my old self, the precious illusion (if it indeed be one) of my old mind, the shedding, the passing on, the evolving... For every birth requires a death, and every demise, a blossom.

I hope that strikes a cord with someone.
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Keep up the writing.

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#11 Posted : 8/6/2013 3:25:38 PM

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"Many of us who have experienced psychedelics feel very much that they are sacred tools. They open spiritual awareness."
"The elimination of the fear of death transforms the individual's way of being in the world." -Stanislav Grof

"My advice to people today is as follows: if you take the game of life seriously, if you take your nervous system seriously, if you take your sense organs seriously, if you take the energy process seriously, you must turn on, tune in, and drop out."
"Drop Out--detach yourself from the external social drama which is as dehydrated and ersatz as TV. Turn On--find a sacrament which returns you to the temple of God, your own body. Go out of your mind. Get high. Tune In--be reborn. Drop back in to express it. Start a new sequence of behavior that reflects your vision." -Timothy Leary
 
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#12 Posted : 8/7/2013 2:09:56 AM

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I will never be the same after my DMT experience. Life has meaning now.

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The following is what I saw after I took DMT with a spirit guide.

*this is raw information about what I remember from my experience on DMT a few days ago.

Inhale deep
Can not hold long
Exxxxxxxxxxxxhaaaaaaaallllllllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeee...........
A massive and violent vibration shock
Shattering loud I freak out
Hands reaching for something to hold on to
Everything is so bright and illuminated
So scared, so much fear
Sucked into a vortex
Lights flashing pass me a billion miles an hour
I plead for it to slow down but it speeds up
I hear my spirit guide say calming words
I feel the force pull me violently until everything is stretched out
Then a unexplainable shift of all I was or knew
A flash and I was not moving
Everything I saw became like a negative picture
Then my entire being shifted
Silhouette of bodies around me
I see a colorful haze
Floating into a ridged, suspended state
So much glowing blue and green
So strange
So scared yet so happy
Did I die?
Can I go back?
So much to understand
Something changed
I am me in this place
Where am I
Space?
Glowing things spinning all over
I have to be in outer space
I see a something
A green or blue monkey
Why is it laughing and pointing
Posing strange and smiling
Dancing
Now in my face smiling
Pushed back gently
I drift back slowly
I return to my body
Everything is still bright and vivid
I return

I can not stop laughing tears of crazy joy, was I in heaven? I want to talk about it I am so excited I can not contain myself..
Why?
What was that?
Who was that?
The blue alien?
Was it a monkey man?
Where was I?
How long was I gone?
20 minutes? What?
I was in the rabbit hole
I was in the freaking rabbit hole! And I know it was real
I will never be the same

 
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#13 Posted : 8/7/2013 8:01:15 AM

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Teveo, I read this one, and the one you wrote here. I must say, as many others have stated, you have talent with the written word. I personally have not tried Salvia, I tried DMT for the first time a few days ago and felt my life change. Hard to explain but as they say "I saw the light".

I knew pot wasn't a gateway drug after I took DMT.

 
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#14 Posted : 8/7/2013 8:35:33 AM
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I wanted to thank all those who gave me kudos. I'm in my mid-forties and work for myself so it's not a big deal if people know my identity (someone posted the name of a book I wrote above) besides, I have no interest in doing hard drugs. Anyway, I write travel blogs already so might just start writing about another kind of travel altogether ;-)

You're all welcome to hit me up on Facebook but you'll have to Google my name to find it as I don't want to break the house rules here by posting contact info.

Thanks again and see you on the next trip!
 
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You're all welcome to hit me up on Facebook but you'll have to Google my name to find it as I don't want to break the house rules here by posting contact info.


Edit... lol
 
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how do i delete a post lol
 
 
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