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http://www.highexistence...psychedelic-renaissance/How does everyone else feel about this. Personally as of now I think that they should legalize and try to control the traditional psychedelics that have been studied many times, instead of the new RC's that basement chemist come up with. What's your opinion? 
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Nope, this is not as good as everyone makes it out to be. What this does is it effectively makes any mind-altering substance illegal UNTIL it has been okay-ed by the NZ government. Until they do that, it is controlled. This is a brilliant way for the government to stamp down on the RC trade. If you're selling something psychoactive and it hasn't been passed by the government, you are automatically selling a controlled substance and will be prosecuted. Now, to be fair, the government COULD (hypothetically) make said substance legal, but really, how many of you are expecting that. Everyone is acting like the government will be reasonable and say: "hey, this looks relatively safe, go ahead, get high," but of course they're not. This is just another to ban as many substances as possible with the least amount of effort. The ONLY step in the right direction is flat out decriminalization and broad spectrum legalization. Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:Nope, this is not as good as everyone makes it out to be.
What this does is it effectively makes any mind-altering substance illegal UNTIL it has been okay-ed by the NZ government. Until they do that, it is controlled.
This is a brilliant way for the government to stamp down on the RC trade. If you're selling something psychoactive and it hasn't been passed by the government, you are automatically selling a controlled substance and will be prosecuted.
Now, to be fair, the government COULD (hypothetically) make said substance legal, but really, how many of you are expecting that.
Everyone is acting like the government will be reasonable and say: "hey, this looks relatively safe, go ahead, get high," but of course they're not. This is just another to ban as many substances as possible with the least amount of effort.
The ONLY step in the right direction is flat out decriminalization and broad spectrum legalization.
Blessings
~ND Ok ok. Makes sense and I can see where your coming from. Any other opinions?
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It sounds like a good move and eminently civilised but I s'pose it all depends on what is covered...or more appropriately...what is not. My impression of the article is that it is for existing and emerging RCs (ie synthetics). I have never been to NZ...it looks beautiful (on the TV) but I am also aware it has some social problems (again, from the TV). I guess it's a case of watch this space. If MDMA becomes legit...NZ will become a huge global party destination. (That would be a medicine for any struggling modern economy  ) It is illegal to pick mushrooms in the UK but they cannot pass a law forbidding mushrooms to grow:  Author of: DMT & My Occult Mind: Investigation of Occult Realities using the Spirit Molecule
The whole cosmos is guided, controlled and animated by an almost endless series of hierarchies of sentient beings, each having a mission to perform. They vary infinitely in their respective degrees of consciousness and intelligence. THE SECRET DOCTRINE
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New Zealand is far away from legalization of anything, its all about restriction of new rc's no way any currently illegal substance is gonna become legalized based on proof of safety. if anyone thinks that's the case your sadly mistaken. Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
Red and yellow then came to be,
reaching out to me, lets me see.
There is so much more and it beckons me to look though to these,
infinite possibilities.
As below so above and beyond I imagine,
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.
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ewok wrote: if anyone thinks that's the case your sadly mistaken. Oh Man! I was thinking to save my Queen's head pennies for a banging Kiwi Techno Party  Author of: DMT & My Occult Mind: Investigation of Occult Realities using the Spirit Molecule
The whole cosmos is guided, controlled and animated by an almost endless series of hierarchies of sentient beings, each having a mission to perform. They vary infinitely in their respective degrees of consciousness and intelligence. THE SECRET DOCTRINE
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NZ has a history of coming down really hard on any and all mind altering substances, much like it's neighbor Australia. You could make the case that they are more draconian and ban-happy then the US, although they don't have the resources available that the DEA does. Blessings ~ND "There are many paths up the same mountain."
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Nathanial.Dread wrote:NZ has a history of coming down really hard on any and all mind altering substances, much like it's neighbor Australia. You could make the case that they are more draconian and ban-happy then the US, although they don't have the resources available that the DEA does.
Blessings
~ND The big budget comes from futile oil wars...can`t remember the last time NZ invaded a country and stole its wealth haha.
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shanedudddy2 wrote:Nathanial.Dread wrote:NZ has a history of coming down really hard on any and all mind altering substances, much like it's neighbor Australia. You could make the case that they are more draconian and ban-happy then the US, although they don't have the resources available that the DEA does.
Blessings
~ND The big budget comes from futile oil wars...can`t remember the last time NZ invaded a country and stole its wealth haha. A very good point lol
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