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#1 Posted : 6/12/2013 11:01:43 AM
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#2 Posted : 6/12/2013 12:27:17 PM

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You're using it too much. Razz

I'm going through a similar phase with LSD; I've been tripping once a week for the past month, and in my last trip, I felt this sudden urge to stop eating it. It was almost as if the acid itself was telling me this.

I think you should take a break from psychadelics and just pursue other passions for a while.
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#3 Posted : 6/12/2013 1:40:44 PM
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dont let ity completely scare you away and only take a brake if YOU feel u need 2 ive had some scary trips and actually smoked again after it just so that i would not leave on a bad note know what i mean. no one can tell you why this is happening to u exept you and deep down somewher inside of you u KNOW why this is happening u just have to think hard.
 
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#4 Posted : 6/12/2013 1:52:30 PM
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shamans say to never to let other people integrate your experience they are yours and only yours infact if someone even trys to STOP reading it immidiatly so that nothing gets ingrained into you as some people may infact be strange entitys that wil try to distract you and make you confused i may sound crazy but i believe that even tho these "peopl" are infact spirits or some type of entitys and you must NOTlet them distrsct you as they can make you lost. i got this out of don juan but i seriously believe that while i have been tipping i have run into these strange forces who will sometimes take the form of people who you are very close to and sometimes a complete stranger. travel safe my friend never let someone elses ideas affwct your trips
 
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#5 Posted : 6/12/2013 3:10:32 PM

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shamans say to never to let other people integrate your experience they are yours and only yours infact if someone even trys to STOP reading it immidiatly so that nothing gets ingrained into you as some people may infact be strange entitys that wil try to distract you and make you confused i may sound crazy but i believe that even tho these "peopl" are infact spirits or some type of entitys and you must NOTlet them distrsct you as they can make you lost. i got this out of don juan but i seriously believe that while i have been tipping i have run into these strange forces who will sometimes take the form of people who you are very close to and sometimes a complete stranger. travel safe my friend never let someone elses ideas affwct your trips


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#6 Posted : 6/12/2013 3:45:19 PM

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It sounds like you are fighting the experience a bit, i may be wrong. Completely surrender to whatever the experience confronts you with. Laugh at feeling scared, let yourself be scared immerse yourself in the negativity and overcome your fears, if it is indeed fear that is creating these bad vibes. Probably not the best advice in the world. Good luck Smile
 
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#7 Posted : 6/12/2013 4:01:42 PM

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Here's a good list of ideas from the Health and Safety.
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#8 Posted : 6/12/2013 4:37:24 PM

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DeMenTed wrote:
It sounds like you are fighting the experience a bit, i may be wrong. Completely surrender to whatever the experience confronts you with. Laugh at feeling scared, let yourself be scared immerse yourself in the negativity and overcome your fears, if it is indeed fear that is creating these bad vibes. Probably not the best advice in the world. Good luck Smile


i agree acceptance is key, realize that this is all just an experience and let it happen . happy travels Thumbs up
 
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#9 Posted : 6/12/2013 5:10:08 PM

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I think evil is a subjective term. I sometimes get a lot of transforming demon type things but they are just very odd and have not, so far, freaked me out too much.
Surrender has been beneficial for me. The only time i get bad vibes off of "enitites" is when i have gone in thinking "oh shit this is fierce i"ve gone too far" then it all seems to settle down (after a fashion) once i relax.
I think they are a reaction to a thought that you maybe having before you have even conciously realised you are having that particular thought thereby starting a chain reaction of malaise.
 
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#10 Posted : 6/12/2013 10:49:23 PM
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In the Tibetan book of the dead one of the phases your spirit or soul goes through after physical death is encountering terrrifying wrathful demonic entities. The suggestion they give for transcending this phase is to maintain an understanding that these beings are simply a manifestation of the self. It makes sense to me that in this context this belief or understanding may be helpful. We have more light within us than darkness in my honest opinion.
 
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#11 Posted : 6/13/2013 6:43:50 AM

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Alkalizer wrote:

Later that day i decided to try to "fight" these entities. I was tired of these evil seeming entities now. I went into the bathroom with a much higher dose than 15 mg, looked into the mirror and started smoking it. I held it in for a long time while i looked myself into the eyes in the mirror.



For starters I recommend staying away from Mirrors. It may sound like unscientific malarky but in my experiences those things are flooded with bad vibes. Perfectly safe for the sober mind of course.... I've just had some unsettling experiences with mirrors on high doses of LSD and Cubensis Mushroom. Regardless I think what everyone has recommended sounds really on point. Taking a break is never a bad idea, I feel that clearing the consciousness is key to a safe journey and some times the mind can be clouded by too much speculation. I've read that Ayawaska can be the greatest truth teller and the greatest liar. We all know how much respect it requires, so relax! It's chill to use these situations as a catalyst to move in other directions with your life. Always returning for more spiritual guidance in time of course X). Im in a similar boat as you, experimenting with the 15-25mg range. I saw some weird shit and had some unsettling feelings. So im taking a breather. Meditation is on the agenda now.
 
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#12 Posted : 6/13/2013 10:24:13 AM
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Thanks everyone.

 
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#13 Posted : 6/13/2013 4:20:03 PM

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I've had similar experiences a couple of times. I think it's best to face your fears. I've managed to pull myself together and help myself chill out by thinking I can't let them see that I'm scared. I'll normally start singing/chanting then feel energy building inside myself then things normally stop being scary and start getting more interesting.

I figure its kind of like dealing with a bully in normal life if you appear scared and weak you look like an easy target and they're going to mess with you.

Most of the time this seems to work for me, but there have been a few times it hasn't and I've just had to ride it out. I feel a much better about riding out like this than feeling like I'm just laying down and taking it.
 
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#14 Posted : 6/13/2013 4:35:10 PM

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The only "evil" I've encountered through the spice is my own. Every time I break through, when i descend back into corporeality, I feel the darkness appear.
It is me being seated back into my ego, and there can be growling, foaming a at the mouth, and other animal like reactions by my body as the animalistic, desire driven,(but necessary, MY 3D reality) ego is reunited with my karma-free light body.
There is usually a little conflict, but i usually end up dancing with the ever-loving beast, once he understands, again, that I do out for HIM.
That's just me. Literally.
What's going on in your life? Is there chaos that is affecting your trips Yusuf you may be only less than consciously awareof?
I read your post saying that you pay attention to S&S, but do you?
I've actually found s&s a little less important with dmt than longer, less potent psych alks , but that is because I shot right through the introspection aspect into God-head.
Peace and mercy on your journeys, happy trails, fellow human.
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#15 Posted : 8/1/2013 5:36:20 PM

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I don't know how much sense this will make, but I'll give it a shot anyway. I believe there is One source, One "God" from which all else comes. I believe this Source is eternal balance, love, and harmony, such is the nature of the natural world wherever you look. I also believe that our consciousness was fashioned after this manner, and that in essence we are this source.

Now, that being said, maybe these entities are in need of your help, I mean, we are in essence beings of light, and maybe these are discarnate beings who have forgotten this and are lost, the "bullies" of hyperspace touched upon by Herbaldreams. Tempest talked about the Tibetan book of the dead and how "dark" forces are along the way to help strip you of your ego. Maybe you need to let go of the idea that it is you vs. them and simply embrace the truth that you are, on a fundamental level, connected to these things. One of the great masters said "resist ye not evil," if you turn your attention away from the idea that they are there to hurt you and towards the idea that you are there to help them, you will transcend your egoic need for conflict and allow a much more fulfilling and positive experience.

Good Luck!!
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#16 Posted : 8/1/2013 6:33:20 PM

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I would recommend using some changa made with caapi vine or leaf extract, that will most likely break the rut you have gotten into.

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#17 Posted : 8/1/2013 6:57:09 PM

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I would recommend using some changa made with caapi vine or leaf extract, that will most likely break the rut you have gotten into.

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I agree with this, just DMT is kinda like going into outerspace naked....caapi really brings a protective spirit into the mix. I never travel without caapi or Harmalas anymore.
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#18 Posted : 8/2/2013 3:07:30 AM

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Stay healthy that is the best advice. Keep a healthy lifestyle.
I don't believe it matters how much you smoke as long as you can maintain that healthy lifestyle.
I think it's all about perception. In the end it is what you make it after the trip you realize it was a trip. There is nothing else you can do about it, it happened.
I like to go in tough and come out saying "is that all you got?". Go in with that ready for battle attitude and a humble mind. I have only had one bad trip recently and yeah it scared the shit outta me, i don't think you could have a worse trip than the one i had, but in no way did it scare me away.

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Global wrote:
joshisom wrote:
shamans say to never to let other people integrate your experience they are yours and only yours infact if someone even trys to STOP reading it immidiatly so that nothing gets ingrained into you as some people may infact be strange entitys that wil try to distract you and make you confused i may sound crazy but i believe that even tho these "peopl" are infact spirits or some type of entitys and you must NOTlet them distrsct you as they can make you lost. i got this out of don juan but i seriously believe that while i have been tipping i have run into these strange forces who will sometimes take the form of people who you are very close to and sometimes a complete stranger. travel safe my friend never let someone elses ideas affwct your trips


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#20 Posted : 8/2/2013 12:50:33 PM

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I would recommend using some changa made with caapi vine or leaf extract, that will most likely break the rut you have gotten into.

Big grin


I agree with this, just DMT is kinda like going into outerspace naked....caapi really brings a protective spirit into the mix. I never travel without caapi or Harmalas anymore.


I don't think this is the best advice. I have to agree with people when they say that it is probably best to take a break (Changa is just as powerful as normal freebase IMO). DMT is not going anywhere, so just be patient and focus on other things that interest you in life.

My housemate has been going through a similar ride (through smoking changa by the way). She has been confronted with negative entities almost every time we smoke for a while now. I think this thread about her experience and the answers given could help you.
 
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