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changalvia
#21 Posted : 7/29/2013 2:18:46 PM

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Nicely said Dio!

Dioxippus wrote:
Most people aren't psychedelic connoisseurs like some of us here Smile They wouldn't be able to tell the difference if they don't have much prior experience. As long as it doesn't make people feel too horrible, or kill anyone, people will push it as LSD.

I knew a dealer when I was younger who would "wash" his sheets of acid before he sold them. He would pull some of the LSD from them and then try to replace it with weird psychedelic chems he could find online. And that's just some dirty dealer. If the chemist himself was anything like that, well, you get the picture.

Unless I was able to see the lab, meet the chemist, I probably wouldn't do any blotter or liquid or anything that was being presented as LSD. I have much more peace of mind with mushrooms I've grown myself or something I've extracted myself.


That's pretty sad about washing the sheets...

The thing I'm worried about as you just stated, is all the newbs at fests and the like, they take these new so called lsd blotters, have a blast or whatever, and meanwhile its not the real deal.

But because they were told that is lsd they will go on believing that feeling they experience is lsd

It's really messed up, to lie like that

Same with "liquid shrooms" as its going around here

Bullshit.

If you want mushies, tough up and EAT the darn mushies
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changalvia
#22 Posted : 7/29/2013 2:26:15 PM

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As brother Changafarian once said to me:

"If you want the experience there is no such thing as ease of administration, drink your tea like a man"

Or something along those lines

Pleased
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Metanoia
#23 Posted : 7/29/2013 7:53:05 PM

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Liquid shrooms?! Wut?

You're both right, some parts of the experience aren't necessarily pleasant. That is part of the experience. If you're purely pleasure seeking, or can't handle a little grossness or some discomfort, psychedelics probably aren't for you Very happy

That's exactly what it was like for me way back in early high school. I did blotters several times, from the same dealer. My friends and I enjoyed them, wandered around all night looking at the stars and philosophizing. Then I got a blotter from a different guy, and it kicked my dick in the dirt Very happy Because what I had originally wasn't LSD at all. The experience was very different, not just that one blotter was less potent than the other.

People will just chalk it up to "oh, well, these are really good, those other ones weren't as good" when they might not even be the same drug at all!

I don't get how people can lie like that either. All for a few bucks...
 
GMM
#24 Posted : 7/29/2013 8:41:11 PM

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Tried most available illegal and some legal substances , and at some point in time i will do some of them again.
Never say never , but the substances i am done with are:
RC,s , GHB, Cocaine , Opiates , Ketamine , Rum , Whiskey , meth

Once or 2 times a year i go oldskool party hardy and drop some mdma and speed , and beer.Twisted Evil
And if theres someone at the party with good acid , i am in Smile (but then i skip the speed )




 
changalvia
#25 Posted : 7/29/2013 9:31:35 PM

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Dioxippus wrote:
Liquid shrooms?! Wut?


Yes, liquid shrooms. Surprised Or "shroom drops". Hahaha

Just another drop in the puddle of RC's tho
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rickbreda
#26 Posted : 7/29/2013 11:00:31 PM
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GMM wrote:
Tried most available illegal and some legal substances , and at some point in time i will do some of them again.
Never say never , but the substances i am done with are:
RC,s , GHB, Cocaine , Opiates , Ketamine , Rum , Whiskey , meth

Once or 2 times a year i go oldskool party hardy and drop some mdma and speed , and beer.Twisted Evil
And if theres someone at the party with good acid , i am in Smile (but then i skip the speed )


This makes me very interested! May I ask you what exactly makes you being done with Rum and Whiskey, but not all other spirits?
Or have I understood you wrong and are you done with every spirit you've ever taking, which is Rum and Whiskey?
 
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#27 Posted : 7/29/2013 11:49:58 PM

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I used to fool around with Spice K2, at the time it was novel, and interesting. But after moving back to the West Cost, I jumped on Cannabis. Other then the little paranoia bouts, I really like cannabis. Unlike a lot of other people I still have dreams, with cannabis. But still not lucid. But I vaporize it in moderation, I can stick very small amounts in my easy vape, and be puffing for a bout an hour at 240degrees Smile

LSD and MDMA is still on my to do list, but I would do it in a shamanic setting/context

I tried coke, a few times, didnt care for it.

I quit cigarets!!!!

I still drink alcohol, but I think im pretty reserved about it, I dont like drunk, but but I buzz during certain activities is plesent.
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Changafarian
#28 Posted : 7/30/2013 5:58:13 PM

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Greed is really a terrible vice,im glad nexus teaches substance use in its manner and speaks against the buying and selling,Drug dealers do the "say know to drugs"creed no justice.

I can vouch for changavlia's word on the liquid mushroom phenomenon going wild over this side of the world,its a profanity to the sacred mushrooms,they sell it like really cheap per drop but every one tells the same story"you have to take atleast 5 to feel it properly"boiling down to the same price you would pay for the real deal so wtf.I personally never done it,never will it is suspected to be 4 aco-dmt but one can never tell.

Even more bizarre i read(Jim Dekorne'Psychadelic Shamanism mushroom section)that regular cooking mushrooms are dried and laced with LSD or our RC friends to pass off as the real deal,how this makes it cheaper and profitable im not sure so im guessing 99%of the time its RC's as they are remarkably cheap.

So once again comes down to the whole DIY attitude that the nexus motivates.

hehe changalvia i do remember too those words that were spoken drew the conclusion as to why we rather will replace LSD with mescaline any time,the amount of work and patience pays off tremendouslyBig grin Big grin Big grin much less casual aswell giving a much more respectful attitude towards the sacred cacti Smile

The lives of all they occupy their eyes in dismal gloom the all-piercing,dead oculi - mirrors of our doom Oblivious to the trespass as you gaze into the black the demon of surveillance insultingly staring back Into you,they own your every secret, your life is in their files the grains of your every waking second sifted through and scrutinized,they know your every right. They know your every wrong,each put in their due compartment - sins where sins belong
 
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#29 Posted : 7/30/2013 6:11:40 PM
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Dioxippus, this dodgy adulterated LSD dealer you knew, would you know what Psychedelic chemicals he used to
lace the blotters after he washed much of the LSD off of them?
DOB? ALD?

And if you know what substances he used(or are used by other dodgy dealers to
adulterate LSD), would any of them be dangerous in the maximum dosages that
could be soaked up by 1 or 2 blotters?
 
changalvia
#30 Posted : 7/30/2013 9:14:18 PM

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I'm sure most people wouldn't lay a lethal amount down...

The problem is people under the assumption that it is in fact real lsd, could very easily take way more than 1 or 2 blotters as the LD50 for lsd is so high as compared to RC's which we know very little about in comparison
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shanedudddy2
#31 Posted : 7/30/2013 11:23:25 PM

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The problem is people under the assumption that it is in fact real lsd, could very easily take way more than 1 or 2 blotters as the LD50 for lsd is so high as compared to RC's which we know very little about in comparison


My recent experience rose my blood pressure to very worrying levels. This was from god-knows what RC on blotter paper. I believe it was 5-MEO-AMT, based on my testing with reagents, but I can`t be certain.
I think the biggest risk is cardiovascular illness of some kind (heart attack or stroke), based on my subjective experience.
I would NOT have wanted to take any more than the 1 and half tabs, NO way.
Profit hungry drug dealers should stay the hell away from faking psychedelics...stick to cutting and screwing people over with heroin and coke...or better yet, sell pure product as advertised.
 
Metanoia
#32 Posted : 8/1/2013 12:46:05 PM

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SKA wrote:
Dioxippus, this dodgy adulterated LSD dealer you knew, would you know what Psychedelic chemicals he used to
lace the blotters after he washed much of the LSD off of them?
DOB? ALD?

And if you know what substances he used(or are used by other dodgy dealers to
adulterate LSD), would any of them be dangerous in the maximum dosages that
could be soaked up by 1 or 2 blotters?

He used DOB and DOI, mainly, from what I gathered. He had a ridiculous catalog of all these obscure chemicals he would parade out from time to time. I know he used some 2c's as well, but I'm not exactly sure which ones.

For sure he could have really hurt someone by doing this. Some teenage kids thinking they're tough as nails and can "handle their shit" taking four or more blotters at once. By the time those blotters reached his customers there was only trace amounts of LSD in them I bet. The bulk of it being replaced with some ungodly cocktail of research chemicals.
 
GMM
#33 Posted : 8/1/2013 8:39:55 PM

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rickbreda wrote:
GMM wrote:
Tried most available illegal and some legal substances , and at some point in time i will do some of them again.
Never say never , but the substances i am done with are:
RC,s , GHB, Cocaine , Opiates , Ketamine , Rum , Whiskey , meth

Once or 2 times a year i go oldskool party hardy and drop some mdma and speed , and beer.Twisted Evil
And if theres someone at the party with good acid , i am in Smile (but then i skip the speed )


This makes me very interested! May I ask you what exactly makes you being done with Rum and Whiskey, but not all other spirits?
Or have I understood you wrong and are you done with every spirit you've ever taking, which is Rum and Whiskey?


I really dont like the wooden barrel taste of it.
I do little bits of wodka or jagermeister to heat up in wintertime or so.
But beer is my favourit , and a nice white wine i can appriciate.
 
grue
#34 Posted : 8/3/2013 4:47:36 PM

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I don't do,

I don't do opiates, cocaine, pcp, angel dust or heroin. I actually have never even encountered angel dust, but no. none of those things.

I don't really do GHB cuz I don't have any use for it and I have extremely high tolerance to it.

I don't drink whisky, beer, rye, and a few other things because they contain gluten.

I find a lot of people I encounter who like to hallucinate dislike to opiate, and vice versa.

stimulant abuse is just bad. mmkay. its okay in moderation but few can moderate it. I can't.
 
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#35 Posted : 8/3/2013 6:13:15 PM

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I am smoking cannabis 3-4, sometimes 7 days in a week since 9-10 years ago and I don't think I have any mental or physiological problem due to cannabis smoking.It's just hard to remember dreams sometimes but it's not a big issue for me.I'm seeing cannabis as a medicine.

I love LSD very much and I take it once or 2 times in a month.

I also love 2c-p and 2c-e but I take them rarely,maybe once or 2 times in 3 months.I prefer LSD to them usually but sometimes I prefer 2c-p or 2c-e to LSD.I think they may be very useful substances if your body accept them sufficiently.I also find high doses of 2c-e is the closest thing to DMT mentally but it's really hard effects on the body.

Actually DMT is totally different than everything else for me,it's the easiest substance on the body and it has the shortest duration but it's the hardest substance to do for me for psychological reasons...so I smoke it once in a month if I can.I guess it passed almost a month since the last time but I'm not ready for it yet.

I also tried ketamine one time intra nasally 7 times i.m. and one time i.v. and I decided to not do it again 4 years ago.It is the most powerfull substance besides DMT for me but it's just something wrong.I definitely don't like to be dissociated.

I tried cocaine once and I don't like it.Actually I like it but I decided I don't need it.I'm happy with my physical condition,I don't need doping or stimulants also includes amphetamines and mdma.Other than that I really hate mdma after effects,it just doesn't worth to do for me.

Opiates are in my things not to do list,like I said I'm happy with my physical condition and I don't need dopings,stimulants,painkillers or something like that.However I have respect for everyone's decisions,everyone has their own body,mind and necessities.No one should be on trial for using any substances.
 
Metanoia
#36 Posted : 8/3/2013 11:17:39 PM

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grue wrote:
I don't do opiates, cocaine, pcp, angel dust or heroin. I actually have never even encountered angel dust, but no. none of those things.

I find a lot of people I encounter who like to hallucinate dislike to opiate, and vice versa.

stimulant abuse is just bad. mmkay. its okay in moderation but few can moderate it. I can't.

I hate opiates, and love hallucinogens, so there is something to that Smile Almost everyone I've known who was really into psychedelics disliked opiates.

I actually did encounter angel dust once and tried it. It wasn't a horrible experience, I actually ended up enjoying some of the trip. Not something I would do again, however Smile

I definitely hear you about stimulant abuse. That's the worst addiction I've had to overcome.
 
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