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Boltzmannticore
#1 Posted : 7/29/2013 5:14:31 AM

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Hi, all. Here's a salvia trip report from a few days ago.


Preparation:
The week before I did mindfulness meditation every night for about ~15 minutes. Nothing too intense. I also abstained from sexual activity -- I don't think it's "bad" or "evil" in general, but avoiding it gives me a little more energy, it seems. Also, in the afternoon before the trip, I went for long walk and practiced being calm and mindful.

Trip 1
I sat down and smoked just little bit of salvia 40x in a garage. (This was the lowest concentration available to me. Also I didn't have a scale.) When I laid down afterward I felt thrust back just a bit and saw a sort of fractal curtain unfurl. Or maybe a zipper came down? Hard to say. Anyway, I immediately "sensed" two presences. One I sort of saw as a white pillar to my side. This one seemed male and maybe like my friend. The other didn't seem to have a location, but I "felt" it was female. The female one seemed to be saying something, but I couldn't quite understand what it was. I said, "I'm sorry, could you repeat that, please?" out loud twice. It seemed like I couldn't "translate" what she was saying. Was she saying to not smoke anymore? I'm not sure. Then I felt a warmth on my face and three pricks, two on my temples, one on my upper thigh. The pricks were slightly uncomfortable, but not painful. Then this trip ended.

Trip 2
I wanted more and I'm stupid, so I got up and packed some more salvia and immediately sat down and smoked it. Suddenly, my capacity to recall who I was and where I was disintegrated. I felt like something was looming over me and angry about something, or maybe hostile? I opened my eyes and looked around the garage, but it didn't "make sense." As in, I was looking at boxes and bikes, but I couldn't recognize them. Anyway, I sort of sat up and backed up against a wall. The rest is pretty fuzzy. I vaguely remember standing up, and saying out loud, "No, get off, no, fuck off." Then I ran out of the garage and upstairs and took my shirt off. Then the trip was over. I walked downstairs and asked myself, "Why the fuck did I do that?"

Post-trip
The next couple days I felt a slight change in perspective. I noticed things I usually don't see. But I also felt a bit off and I had some small mood swings, sometimes feeling relaxed and like I really enjoyed things, other times feeling sort of moody or cranky. I felt a strong urge to smoke again, which I resisted. Instead I resolved to smoke a very small amount in a few weeks.

Also, the slight tingling in my thigh has persisted on and off for some 48 hours after the trip.

Thoughts
I'd gone on 4 salvia trips before, all benign. I've been surprised that the trips all seem similar: it feels like I plop down in a locale inhabited by distinct entities with genders that sort of talk to one another. I sort of sense their emotional states, but can't understand exactly what they're saying. I'm a bit worried that as I write this I still feel the slight prick on my upper thigh... Shocked

Disclaimer
I don't have a perspective on whether entities encountered on drug trips are independent of myself, but recently I've sort of wanted it to be but also feared that it is true, which probably colors my experiences.


I hope you enjoyed this. I like reading your guys'/gals' trip reports.
 

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Metanoia
#2 Posted : 7/29/2013 1:04:58 PM

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Salvia once was incessantly bugging me about my jaw. When I would smoke I would get these weird electric pinches on the left side of my jaw. It would persist even when I was sober. I went to the dentist and found out I had an abscess and had to have a root canal. For me, this plant is a healer. Smile If the feeling persists, it wouldn't hurt to have a doctor check it out.

Something that is extremely important, probably the most important factor apart from mindset, is setting. Once you breakthrough you're not aware of your surroundings and you need to be in a safe environment. Even if you don't achieve that level, you could still get up and try to move around. Break things, hurt yourself, etc. No offence, but alone in a garage is a terrible place to use Salvia Pleased

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#3 Posted : 7/30/2013 12:13:32 AM

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Dioxippus wrote:
Salvia once was incessantly bugging me about my jaw. When I would smoke I would get these weird electric pinches on the left side of my jaw. It would persist even when I was sober. I went to the dentist and found out I had an abscess and had to have a root canal. For me, this plant is a healer. Smile If the feeling persists, it wouldn't hurt to have a doctor check it out.

Something that is extremely important, probably the most important factor apart from mindset, is setting. Once you breakthrough you're not aware of your surroundings and you need to be in a safe environment. Even if you don't achieve that level, you could still get up and try to move around. Break things, hurt yourself, etc. No offence, but alone in a garage is a terrible place to use Salvia Pleased

It only gets more bizarre from here on out Very happy



I had a Salvia trip of 40x I believe it was wieghd and consumed through a bong..I cant stress enough to be in a good safe location preferably with a good sitter, in my case the wifey. According to her I was moving around and trying to get up a few times...And I dont remember it at all...I could of hurt my self, but lucky she was there to get me to lay back down. Have you tried quiding the Salvia?? Chewing the leaves? Smile
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Infectedstyle
#4 Posted : 7/30/2013 2:02:05 AM
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Funny how i seem to recall the same thing. I was specifically instructed NOT to smoke salvia extracts. Rather, i should resort to quidding instead. One time i even remember something to the extent of my body being posessed in a way. (Salvia does that, it really seizes control over the whole experience for loads of people) Anyway, i was yelling "NOOOOOOOO" for no particular reason that i can think of other than being sternly instructed not to smoke the darn salvia extracts.

^ Perhaps it has to do with the industrial preparation of salvia that ends up in headshops. I can not grow psychedelic plants in my current environment but i would really like to test that by comparing homegrown extracts with the ones sold in headshops.

Anyway, are you sure you have not forgotten a lot about the experience? Your trip reports seem a little short. I noticed an accelerated learning from salvia and up to this day, everytime i smoke DMT it brings me right back to what i've gained in my very first salvia experience. (Probably those male/female entities for you) Just my thoughts, grain of salt please Smile
 
Metanoia
#5 Posted : 7/30/2013 5:54:49 AM

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Infectedstyle wrote:
Perhaps it has to do with the industrial preparation of salvia that ends up in headshops. I can not grow psychedelic plants in my current environment but i would really like to test that by comparing homegrown extracts with the ones sold in headshops.

Back in the early days I used to get the message that I was not to smoke these extracts. It wasn't the act of smoking it, but the intention behind the person who had made it. A purple being with eight eyes (almost arachnid-like) told me that Salvia, and all other plants, absorb the energy from its environment and especially the biological beings that come into contact with it.

So the online vendor selling these extracts buys them from a guy who does bulk extractions. He does it for profit. He buys some beautiful leaf from Mexico. Grown and handled correctly. Then he takes his greedy capitalist intentions and defecates that energy all over the final product. This is what makes the Salvia beings upset. At least that's how I understood it.

Once I started to extract and grow my own, I haven't ever been given the feeling that I shouldn't be using the plant this way. Actually, the first time I smoked some of my homegrown leaf I got nothing but bright happy colors and the feeling of being hugged for a long time by someone you love deeply.

It could all be in my mind...who knows with something like this. I could just be telling myself that because I grew it myself and performed the extraction myself it is somehow different, in a non-measurable way. But I think it isn't simply fantasy. Even if it is, the rewards you get from growing and extracting yourself are worth it by themselves.
 
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#6 Posted : 7/30/2013 6:04:29 AM

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Put those two together and you can imagine my initial impressions every time I saw this in active topics..just saying. I expected to read about someone taking a shit while smoking plants. I digress.

Cool report though. Salvia is a powerful ally. Respect her and you will learn the power of grace.
Long live the unwoke.
 
 
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