OK, so I've been trying to figure out how to write about this one.. It's going to be a tuff one to put in linear terms.

For this session, I went to a friends house, where myself, my friend and his wife all indulged in 2 hits of LSD. Our plan was to enter Hyperspace at the end of the trip. The LSD was spectacular, and I noticed that it was very different than all my previous experiences. This was the first time I've done LSD since beginning my current DMT explorations. Hallucinations wound not happen randomly. i had to create them using the same technique I do to enter hyperspace.. A kind of building of intention and attention on one specific place to the point of breaking through. My friends and I spent the 8 hour LSD trip, uncovering programs and habits within ourselves and attempting to rewrite or at least shed light on the reasons for their existence.. A very uplifting and enlightening experience. The whole time I was able to notice my friends emotional changes, before they would express them, through temperature variations in the room. Baffling.

Finally the LSD seemed to plateau and we felt like we were ready for launch. I took my time preparing the blue lotus herb as a bed in the volcano and adding 80 mg of spice to be split between just my friend and I. His wife was feeling a bit too anxious.. This time, for me, there was no anxiety at all, but instead a kind of overwhelming respect flooded me.

* - side note - I had noticed, throughout the LSD trip, that my throat was a bit tense and my voice was more soft spoken than normal. I also had a slight pain in the back of my neck. It occurred to me that maybe something was up with my throat chakra several times through the night. *

We fired up the Volcano vaporizer, and took 3 hits each. It took a bit longer for anything to happen this time.. I sat back and closed my eyes, as very slowly, the feeling came over me.

Suddenly, everything went orange. Next the shape of a room began to saturate through the orange. The room's walls then took on clear detail. All of this happened so fast that I found my self franticly chanting (in my inner voice) "calm down, slow down" - The walls had a grid of black squares across them. Each square had a symbol, and for the first time for me, the symbols were all ones I recognize. the letters d w and L the numbers 5 and 2 and 7 and dots and stars. One per square.

The squares started to pulse with light as i receded from chanting. Suddenly the squares began to fold over one another, exposing new symbols. Some still recognizable, some not. At the same time, other parts of the room turned into books, whose pages would turn, exposing a variety of entities. There were more than I could count. I've seen these types before, geometric beings. They have been very helpful to me. At once they began to chant themselves. All in perfect harmony. This was something I had never experienced before either, as they were chanting in a mix of their alien language, and french! They would read from the inside spine of one of the books at the centre of the room.

It was then that I realized that they were reprogramming me. A form of hypnosis. i noticed a glitch in the ceiling of the room that seemed to be a triangle flapping loosely. My attention gathered there as I looked at it. i could see it gathering.. A bluish purple mass of energy. It opened into a circle and I could see 4 or 5 alien looking beings standing over me, looking down. It was clear to me that they were doing surgery on my throat. They were communicating with each other, somehow, and I could catch very small parts of what they were saying. One asking for a tool or device of some kind. Another hands it to him and asks if he should wait till I am out again.. He turns his head to look somewhere I can not see, and says something in a language made of syllable fractals.. It completely screws my head up, and I end up back in the first room.

This time my perspective of the room is different. I am looking at the wall that was behind me the last time. it does not have the square designs and instead has a series of crazy moving parts that link together in the most peculiar ways. The parts are Orange and Yellow. Some of the connecting knobs in the wall are red. The entities begin to move parts of the wall together to make shapes and designs. I feel very confused at this point but remain silent and watch.
They fiddle with the moving wall until they create a design that seems so absurd to me that I begin to laugh (internally) - I hear them speak to each other.. They are saying, "oh he likes that. Do it more!" - I had the feeling that they were doing their best to keep me from the scary surgical procedure that was being done. Even though I knew this, it didn't bother me. I trusted the alien surgeons to do their work.

The geometric beings continued with this environmental shapeshifting for some time, making me laugh so hard inside that I even began to physically giggle. When I did this, I could feel my throat chakra loosen up and unravel a bit. They repeated this for a very long time, to the point where I was hysterically laughing out loud.

It filled me with child like happiness. I was in connection with my infant self. No doubt about it. They would move parts of the wall to make the shape of a monkey face and I would be filled with joy. A giggle would brew in me from so deep down that i felt as though I may explode If I don't get ahold of myself quick.. . I felt like this was a feeling i did not have or rarely had as an infant.

Next came the most awe inspiring thing I've ever witnessed.

My eyes opened as the scene began to fade. I looked up at the ceiling which had a glass decorative ball hanging from it. Suddenly I could see that same bluish purple energy. It was coming from me. The way I was gazing. As my attention/intention (as I call it) was placed to that corner of the room, it filled with this very tangible looking substance.. The more still I was and the more concentrated, the more gathered. Eventually it began to crystallize. small crystals formed on the ball and the contours of the ceiling. It spread like water freezing at a stunning rate. Flowing down the wall and everywhere.. The ball, where my attention was mostly set, was almost completely covered and glimmering in a way I have never seen anything glimmer before. Absolutely stunning.

I had the feeling like as long as i didn't move or look away, I could continue on for as long as I wished.
Then someone said something and it all faded away at heartbreaking speeds. haha. -
Most incredible afterglow I've ever experienced.. i felt like it was a gift from the entities, but could have just been the combination of LSD and DMT. In either case, it made me feel complete and powerful.

Including the Crystalline afterglow, the DMT experience was almost 25mins.

i feel like I should mention that I recently quit smoking cigarettes. I believe this trip had a lot to do with that.. There will be a lot of integration work for me with this one. There were a few other things that happened that are just too personal and not quite clear enough to write about quite yet.

As always, Thanks for reading! Any input or feedback would be greatly appreciated and welcomed.

Bless it up -

Nice report.
That fading away at heartbreaking speeds is a right bugger. When my visions start to fold in on themselves, and the pixelation quality changes, i know it"s ending soon and i sometimes screw my eyes up tight to try and squeeze the last droplet out of the experience.

Good trip report, its seems lsd with dmt allows for a better memory of the experience. Also I think its interesting the light was blue and you had some sort of throat surgery, because blue corresponds to the throat chakra.

Alien surgery has been a recurring theme for me also it can be uncomfortable but, something about master hyperdimensional surgeons working on me is exciting, I feel like I am receiving healing on level that is otherwise impossible.

Great report, as usual.

LSD+DMT is probably my favorite combination of any two things ever.



This kind of thing happens to me all the time. The energy that makes up the "stuff" of hyperspace follows my trail of attention. I used to at one point think that it was following my eyes, but through experimentation, I realized it wasn't where my eyes were pointed, but rather where my focus was directed. The more I focus somewhere, the more the energy can build up and create more and more intricate and "potent" things. It is in fact quite tangible and interactable. It sometimes feels warm to the touch, and other times neutral. Usually feels magnetic (though it's not). There's so much to say about it really, I know I'm forgetting a ton. I talk about it's relation to attention/focus in this thread a bit.

Great write up! One of these days I will be blessed enough to try this combo it has been on my mind for a while.

I have also experienced similar phenomena around focusing my attention to potentiate the hyper stuff. It blew my mind when I realized that I was able to interact with the experience on a physical level. I can totally relate to the magnetic feeling Global described, an entity once held out a ball of energy to me and motioned for me to grab it, when I did it felt just like I had two strong magnets repelling each other in my hands and that the molecules of the air had been removed and there was absolutely no friction restricting my movement. The ball then grew into a child....

- Yes. That's it. I also made the connection with the blue and the throat chakra. It was as if every chakra above and including the throat had been opened and were pouring out on to the ceiling.

- Global. Thanks for the insight, as usual. I agree very much with your thread and it's contents. I've had similar experiences with using attention to steer away from negative or scary experiences. Not long ago, I had a trip where I saw these same alien surgeons but veered away because i did not feel ready for that.
I want to point out that in this experience, this "stuff" as you call it was so thick and so potent. It was absolutely pouring out of me. I could make it wish wash around and create currents with it for a while, until it began to solidify. It was one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. I definitely think that "stuff" is the energy of intention, or will power, which seems to be what you're getting at..?

- Wax. That's crazy!! haha. But i can very much relate.. Here's a question to both you and Global.. When you say feels magnetic.. and "grab" or "touch" are you referring to a kind of psychic touch / do you use astral body hands or do you move your actual hands??
The reason I ask is that i am almost always just a perspective.. Even when the Aliens were doing their surgery, i couldn't feel a "body" at the most just my head. The only time I've had a body was when I went through a metamorphosis into a Lizard/man and then again into a Giant Red Dragon. lol.. Totally different story.. But I've always been curious about that..

Well towards, the end, you mention opening your eyes. I would assume that by the time you opened your eyes, you would be back in your body, no? You open your eyes, and if you were to look down, you would see your body, yes?

When I'm in hyperspace I'm typically just a perspective, but sometimes it's more like existing in two states at once kinda deal where I'm both in and out of my body at the same time. I can have my eyes closed and be fully immersed in hyperspace, yet be aware that it is all taking place around my body. Other times, I simply become one with hyperspace, and then I don't have a body.

If we're talking about interacting with the open eyed energy though, I'm talking about using my real hands. I don't have an "astral body" or anything like that that I can detect. The touch is not a "psychic touch" but rather a physical one. As Wax indicated, grabbing them can cause involuntary physical movements such as the feeling of magnets pushing limbs apart or away from the energy source or conversely pulling the limb into the energy source.

The only energy (and "things" ) I've found that doesn't carry this magnetic-like charge seems to be the white light energy and the things that it composes. It feels quite unique to the touch. It is "magnetically" neutral, and it displays an interesting anesthetizing quality on contact.

Thanks for clearing that up for me..
I too have something to clear up.. The end part where my eyes were open was what i would normally refer to as after glow. I've never had such a powerful effect I guess. This started about 18 minutes after launch.. I suppose that If I had looked down at my body i would have seen it, and if it was my will, I could have moved...
I just felt like not moving or disrupting my gaze was detrimental to the experience.
I noticed this on LSD too..
Stillness brought more control and vividness to the hallucinations.
Maybe I still need to learn this technique better.
I was tempted to touch the crystals when they started to form, just to see if it was real! haha.. Maybe next time

Yeah, sometimes it can happen, sometimes not. It typically seems to be dependent on how much "juice" is left in the system so to speak. Strong breakthrough experiences can also tend to be a bit longer than normal. I first started noticing and interacting with the energy during some strong afterglows. It wasn't at first when I was just starting out, but the experience can have a funny way of evolving. You may start to find this particular phenomenon to be more common now, and this may also be a product of neuroplasticity.



Oh no, I hear you on that one. It can often be vital that you don't budge an inch, and do just that because the very nature of their world can seem to pivot on you sometimes, and if you're not game for playing "Atlas" then the whole shebang can collapse or fade or become misaligned from your perspective.



Next time!

Yeah, the only time I have experienced that it was using my physical hands, it was during a 15mg experience so I was still here when it happened. I felt a little silly at first because I "knew" I couldn't actually touch a hallucination, but the entity was begging me so I obliged and boy was I wrong. Fully interactive physical touch. It seemed to almost control the movement of my hands to an extent.

I definitely relate to not wanting to divert your focus in my experience the spice really wants your full attention and nothing less. I have found that if I really focus I can ramp up the effects of even threshold doses to be much stronger.

Yes, try reaching out and touching it next time. You might be pleasantly surprised

Thanks for the advice, Wax. I will.. I have a friend who told me a story of himself using his physical hands to turn some knobs that adjusted certain things in his trip-reality. He said something very similar. I'm coming to learn that these things happen. haha.. Your input is appreciated.

Speaking of making threshold doses stronger with attention, I've been playing with the left over herb from my vaporizer sessions (which still contain trace amounts of DMT) and find this to be VERY true.
Since there is so little left over, even 3 large bongs of this stuff is only equivalent to about 5 mg or so. I wonder if I will one day get a surprise bowl that blasts me right through!! haha. But the Volcano does a very good job, so I doubt it.
The point is, with smaller doses and full attention, one can still get wonderful results. Music is crazy fun to listen to with small amounts, and i find that it just gives my imagination a hyper-boost. I've read lots about micro dosing and how many don't like it, but I find that with a good meditative state and a clear mind, one can go quite far.

Speaking of music, here's a good question.. Maybe I should make it a thread, maybe it already is, but has anyone else noticed that while on DMT, music seems to lack volume variation?? For example, if something is happening in the background of a song, I feel like I can hear it as loud and clear as anything else in the song.. Though dynamic still exists, in fact more dynamic exists, but less fluctuation in volume. I've had several experiences with that. It often seems like it becomes as loud as it can be without being too loud, even if the initial volume is very quiet. I suppose it's due to the contrast of silence in my head (thoughts) to noise in reality. And the sharpened sense of awareness/attention
- Global, I know your stance on music these days, but you've mentioned using it before.. Just a curious thought..

The way that I describe that particular phenomenon is that the DMT grants a kind of special spacial awareness within the music. If we get as simple as a single chord for an example, when sober these notes can seem to sort of overlap and bunch together to form this mass of a chord. On DMT, the harmonies split out into well defined layers. With the increased space between the sounds, each note is more clear and distinct. This concept then applies to music that is itself layered where the various layers that typically may crawl all over each other, get their boundaries and distance. This may explain how there is still that dynamicism. I have often found that even in the absence of music, hyperspace tends to work in a very musical way - the way it harmonically arranges its own visual layers - the way it climaxes and sometimes even seems like a key change with a shift in color, geometry, etc...Hyperspace seems to have a lot in common with grand, epic classical music, and that is all not to forget the music that hyperspace itself makes and is inextricably connected to.

When it seems like it gets loud without getting too loud, I can relate to that, and this also applies to the visual field in my experience. Looking at the typically harsh, bright sun on DMT is painless, without glare, etc...Normally we tend to have painful reactions to particularly intense stimuli, but DMT seems to increase the tolerance for that kind of stuff.

Thanks for the insight Global. Well put my friend.

I feel that same way. I usually go in with silence when using a breakthrough dose (with some exception) but with these small amounts, i find all sorts of sensory stimuli to be very pleasurable.

I couldn't agree more about the correlation with music composition and hyperspace composition.. i thought maybe that was just me, as I am a music producer and have a mind very much geared and conditioned to such a view.

As always i find it very interesting that our experiences are so similar..

I teach music, so I'm both well-conditioned, and probably do a fair share of conditioning myself

Wow! As I read through this report I realised the individual mental fortitude that is required to embark on such a journey is hugely significant. Many a man would crumble at one hit of good LSD never mind two hits, and a 80mg spice chaser.

There should be a honours system in place. An ability for the community to recognise bravery from their own ranks and say: "Yes, we recognise from our own ranks that this individual partook of an extraordinary journey by imbibing a gourmet quantity of good and heavy 'stuff' and he went out into the realms, and he went far, very, very, very far indeed! And we salute you. Yes we do!"

Erm, we bestow upon you, something like this: The Order of the LSD twice-fold and, The 80mg Spice Gallantry Medal.

Well done!



Well done indeedy!

Haha.. That's a cool idea!! Heavy hallucinogenic experiences are my forte. I thank you for your appreciation of my adventurous soul. When I was 16, I tried mushrooms for the first time. No one in the town where I lived knew much about them. At least not the people I knew. i ate the recommended dose of 3 grams, waited for almost an hour and after nothing had conspired, I began to just slowly munch from the bag. I ended up eating about 7 grams in total. i was a 130 pound teen with a philosophical and spiritual outlook. The trip hit me so astoundingly hard that even now, almost 15 years later, I can still remember everything!! After that, Small doses of mushrooms just made me feel funny.

The same thing happened with LSD. I was at a party when I was 21. I had never done LSD. I saw this dude dressed in a red velvet suit with a matching top hat and a cane with a huge crystal on it.. I jokingly said, "damn.. I want to be on whatever that guy is on.." He heard me, and brought me over to a room where he offered me some very pure liquid acid. I took 3 drops in my eyeball.. I was nervous as hell, but the people around me were good people and I felt safe, so I went for it.. We waited nearly an hour and a half.. Nothing happened.. I went back to the dude and told him what was happening.. He said that sometimes a persons first time is a dud, and offered me more. I took another 3 drops in my other eye and a few on my hand which I licked and rubbed in. By the time I got outside, the first batch kicked in. I knew then that I was in for the ride of a lifetime, and submitted myself to the experience.. I Won't go into too much detail, but at one point I was pulling stars out of the sky with my fingertips and moving them to new locations. I built a huge mosaic out of all the stars in the sky. It took me 2 hours. The last piece of the puzzle was Venus, which was very bright at that time of the year. For some reason I could not move it. I even tried to get my foot up on the sky for leverage to pull it out, but fell over. When I fell, the sky erupted into daylight for an instant, and then the stars were back in their original positions. It was both devastating and HILARIOUS!!! The trip was 18 hours in total. Absolutely life changing. I was then convinced of my resolve and sense of self. Any substance I do, I seem to remain in control and essentially "myself" - Even on 2 hits of LSD and 6 G of shrooms, I could have a conversation on the phone with my mother, and she would not know the difference!! i would be trippin balls however.. haha..

Now.. let me take this moment to point out that I seem to be a bit of a unique case in this regard. Not everyone would handle these doses as gracefully. i have seen people lose it on way less.. My key is to have my set and setting in pristine order. Only indulging if I am mentally well and not harbouring any life doubt or trauma. I am on no medication, and do not indulge often. But when I do.. I really go for it. By no means do I do such high doses for the glorification or for detachment or any other unhealthy or egocentric reasons. i simply feel as though i can mentally and spiritually integrate these life altering experiences. - know your own limits!

For me. 9 drops of LSD is too much, just barely. I could happily handle up to 6, though usually do not take more than 3.
For DMT, I have done 200 mg at once. ( my first time also) This was TOO MUCH. I can handle up to 100mg perfectly vaped, but even that is a little too heavy. My comfort zone is 40 - 60 mg.

Mushrooms are a different story. i think I could handle any amount of mushrooms under a half ounce. I plateau on them. I get to a certain point, and that's that. Any more than 6 grams, and it just lasts longer.

My final point is that when mixing these, I can safely do the same amount of both, as i would if I were only doing one or the other. so if 2 hits of lsd is nice, and 4 g of shrooms are nice, I can do both and IME, i don't get more high, it just changes the high. So it's a different "nice." - I hope that makes sense.