I have seen trees here in the southwest usa that look and flower the same as i have seen of both trees! I want to know how can i really know if these are them?

Thanks

There's many species of mimosa and acacia, active and non active. I'd be nice and do the research for you but it's already here, finding it's as easy as typing this lol! "search" and then search away.... might take a few minutes... less than waiting for a reply here though

I have searched, looked at all the pictures and the trees look the same. Acacia confusa and acacia saligna both look the same as well so that is why i was asking if there is another way to tell besides the pictures on here

Thanks

you can take detailed pictures of the suspect, and post them in this thread

also you can research which mimosoidea are in your area, so you can narrow it down to a few suspects.

flowers, phyllodes, and seed pods i believe are the main tools used for identification.


also make sure when you research mimosa, that you are actually looking at hostilis/tenuiflora not albizia julibrissin

Ah. Sorry to give you the UTFSE line but...
I use wikipedia for lots of research, then simply google for the rest. Wikipedia cite sources are quick too

i have always done all my research myself before posting on boards, i only post on boards when i have exhausted all research avenues.

all research has said that the mimosa hostilis and the acacia confusa do not grow here, but i constantly pass trees here that look exactly like what the trees in question look like.

i figure with az being land locked with mexico and mimosa hostilis known to grow there, with all the mexican migration over the past centuries that they would have brought their sacred tree with them on the trip. az has the perfect temperature for both trees.

guess i will have to wait till they start to flower, and take pics to post

i did you the service of finding you some mimosoidea that you could possibly mistake for mimosa genus.
Prosopsis glandulosa
Prosopis velutina
Olneya tesota
Acacia neovernicosa
Acacia greggii
Acacia constricta
Acacia angustissima
there were some Parkinsonia genus, which are mimosoidea, but their leaves were noticeably different from mimosa/acacia.
there is also delonix regia in your area as well (which is considerably easier to mistake for mimosa than parkinsonia).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albizia_julibrissin
I see these everywhere. They might've already flowered in your area

yeah i have seen those and know the flowers are the wrong color on them.

On a different plant note, just trying to be as helpful as I can
I once heard that desmanthus ill. grows abundantly in the southwest. I never looked into the validity of that as it's a plains plant but... Maybe you can

apophus..Parshvik is now indeed a family Fabaceae seer..
these are the main candidates..
Prosopis ('mesquite' ) look more like Mimosae than Acacia..
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Yes right outside my patio, dmt inherent?

I think he's just ... Not seen enough good. I can't say I blame him, many fellow Americans today make me feel the same.
But yes, it's been reported to have the stuff, among a few other things, in the roots mostly if I remember right

ehum..Search Engine..desmanthus..dmt-nexus

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=37699

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=23833

Ice House is a fine american indeed!

does anyone know if any of these two is either mimosa or acacia ?

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